Will there be a 2020 season?

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Why not play all 7? No real penalty for losing anymore? May as well get the extra game experience.
Maybe could hurt seeding I guess. Not sure how they’ll do that.
Really, it’s mainly providing some flexibility in the schedule. Especially on the front end as schools and teams adjust to things.
 

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Does anyone know about sophomore/freshman schedules, there’s rumors about only varsity games?
 
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Not playing jv for a year could ruin smaller programs for multiple years. Fringe guys who would be starters as juniors and seniors may quit rather than practice for a year with no playing
 

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Iron Doc is pleased to see Iowa adopt the Minnesota model (everyone makes the FB playoffs).
THIS was long overdue, much like introducing the DH into the National League.
 

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I have posted something similar to this in the past, but I would like to see Iowa go to a similar system as Minnesota has. Here are the basics of it.

Teams are divided into 8 sub-states per class, this is done preseason or after week 4 or 5 like baseball and basketball.
Teams would play an eight game regular season schedule of anyone that they would like.
At the end of the 8 game season the coaches of the sub-state get together and seed teams.
The eight winners of the sub-states are "state qualifiers", a state committee seeds these and games are played at neutral sites.
Semifinals and Finals are played at the Dome just like is done now.

There would be some byes for better teams in week 1 of the postseason. And I am not sure if this would work for 8 man as there are more than 64 teams, either maintain the current format or in eight man there could be a chance of not qualifying.

I would go with this schedule.

Week 8 game is on Thursday.
Postseason Week 1 Wednesday
Postseason Week 2 Tuesday
Postseason Week 3 Monday
Quarterfinals Saturday at neutral sites, this allows for day games, double or triple headers, etc.
Semifinals Thursday-Saturday
Finals Thursday and Friday

I think that this schedule allows for enough rest, teams are still guaranteed 9 games, and allows for everyone to have a chance to make it to state. It truly makes it exactly like basketball and baseball, the other two non individual sports the state sponsors (meaning you can't win an individual title in these sports.)
 
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Not playing jv for a year could ruin smaller programs for multiple years. Fringe guys who would be starters as juniors and seniors may quit rather than practice for a year with no playing
What smaller programs field a JV team? From what I have seen is most schools are just adopting a 9/10 team format and then Varsity. Our school has had issues with our varsity opponents not having a JV team to play the following Monday.
 

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What smaller programs field a JV team? From what I have seen is most schools are just adopting a 9/10 team format and then Varsity. Our school has had issues with our varsity opponents not having a JV team to play the following Monday.
JV for smaller schools is generally freshmen/sophomores unless they’re good enough to play variety. There could be the occasional junior play JV. Smaller school don’t have enough numbers to play 3 or 4 different levels.
 
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JV for smaller schools is generally freshmen/sophomores unless they’re good enough to play variety. There could be the occasional junior play JV. Smaller school don’t have enough numbers to play 3 or 4 different levels.
Ok Got it. I'm more familiar with HS having a 9th grade team, a JV team and a Varsity team. What I am seeing is 3A schools are forgoing JV and having a 9/10 team and Varsity only. Basically the same thing you mention for smaller schools. The only difference would be Juniors would either need to find playing time on Varsity or stand on the sidelines. The football in our area our JV teams are playing the Varsity Opponent the following Monday. The 9th Grade team plays on Friday before the Varsity game.
 

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Ok Got it. I'm more familiar with HS having a 9th grade team, a JV team and a Varsity team. What I am seeing is 3A schools are forgoing JV and having a 9/10 team and Varsity only. Basically the same thing you mention for smaller schools. The only difference would be Juniors would either need to find playing time on Varsity or stand on the sidelines. The football in our area our JV teams are playing the Varsity Opponent the following Monday. The 9th Grade team plays on Friday before the Varsity game.
Same here. Most JV games are against the same opponent that varsity just played Friday night, with a few exceptions since they don’t play the same number of games.
 

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Death rate right now is so low, it’s towing the line of no longer being pandemic status. Only know of one person in my area that’s died, a 95 y/o life long smoker. Of course there’s special cases where healthy people are dying, but cmon how often is that happening? Rate of that has to be almost incalculably low
And hydroxychloroquine is saving lives...if we only knew of this months ago...wait, i think someone mentioned it, several times...

https://www.newsweek.com/key-defeat...exists-we-need-start-using-it-opinion-1519535

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katie...en-recovery-with-hydroxy-chloroquine-n2566409
 

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Ok Got it. I'm more familiar with HS having a 9th grade team, a JV team and a Varsity team. What I am seeing is 3A schools are forgoing JV and having a 9/10 team and Varsity only. Basically the same thing you mention for smaller schools. The only difference would be Juniors would either need to find playing time on Varsity or stand on the sidelines. The football in our area our JV teams are playing the Varsity Opponent the following Monday. The 9th Grade team plays on Friday before the Varsity game.
Yep we have had Freshman and Sophomore teams for years now (mainly due to the high participation) and many times the Freshman team will play a smaller schools "JV" team if they cannot field a grade specific team. Our sophomore teams have to find 4A teams to play as not many in 2A\3A have a Sophomore team.

The past few years we have had roughly 30 Freshman and 25 Sophomores out, then Varsity is made up of anyone good enough (rarely a Fresh) and the numbers have been 25-30 per upper classman numbers. We are a small 3A, large 2A school.
 

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Facts be damned!

There will be no return to “normal”...until after November 3rd...and that’s a moving date.
Will all depend on the election...

Trump wins - COVID, oppression, BLM, systemic racism will last for 4 more years per Dems.
Trump loses - COVID, BLM, riots all disappear Nov5th per Dems.
 
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Illinois just shut down fall high school sports, so we know for sure those cross-border games aren’t happening. (I think Davenport Assumption, Clinton, North Scott, and Davenport West had games scheduled with Illinois schools, at least before last Friday’s revision from the IHSAA.)
 

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Illinois just shut down fall high school sports, so we know for sure those cross-border games aren’t happening. (I think Davenport Assumption, Clinton, North Scott, and Davenport West had games scheduled with Illinois schools, at least before last Friday’s revision from the IHSAA.)
Pleasant Valley, also.

The original schedules had 5 games against Illinois schools and 3 against Nebraska schools.
 

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Illinois just shut down fall high school sports, so we know for sure those cross-border games aren’t happening. (I think Davenport Assumption, Clinton, North Scott, and Davenport West had games scheduled with Illinois schools, at least before last Friday’s revision from the IHSAA.)
From coach statements to the media and firsthand, it sounds like the Iowa 4A QC metro schools (and Muscatine) will possibly play each other (that’s five games), the other two open weeks are up in the air.
As for IL, I thank God for leaving that mess... and it is a mess.
 

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And surprise surprise! It looks like the first Illinois kid announcing a transfer to play in Iowa this fall is going to ... (drum roll) ... Dowling! What a shocker.

Domenic Virelli, a D-2 prospect as a long snapper and offensive lineman from Nazareth Academy, announced on Twitter that he’s enrolling at Dowling and intending to play this season.
 

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And surprise surprise! It looks like the first Illinois kid announcing a transfer to play in Iowa this fall is going to ... (drum roll) ... Dowling! What a shocker.

Domenic Virelli, a D-2 prospect as a long snapper and offensive lineman from Nazareth Academy, announced on Twitter that he’s enrolling at Dowling and intending to play this season.
Well, this thread had a decent run.
 
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Social Distancing
  • Coaches are responsible for ensuring social distancing is maintained between players as much as possible. Recommendations include:
    • Spacing between players while stretching and performing drills so that players remain 6 feet apart.
    • Avoid close congregating of players while receiving coaching instruction.
    • The NFHS Sports Medicine Advisory Committee recommends that workouts should be conducted in “pods” of students, with the same 5-10 students always working out together. Coaches should keep a record of who is in each pod to facilitate contact-tracing if necessary.
    • Schools should take steps to separate the different levels of their football programs into different areas so that potential contamination can be limited in case of a positive case. This includes use of locker rooms.
    • The IHSAA will be expanding the team box for the 2020 season to each respective 10-yard lines, providing 30 additional yard for players and personnel to spread out. This adoption is for players only. Coaches are still mandated to be inside the 25-yard lines. Coaches may enter the expanded team box area for supervision purposes only.
    • Only essential personnel are permitted on the field of play.
      • The field of play is defined as the area within the boundary lines and the goal lines.
      • Essential personnel are defined as players, coaches, athletic trainers, and officials.
      • All others, i.e., ball attendants, managers, video people, media photographers, etc. are considered non-essential personnel and are to be on the sideline, maintaining social distance of 6 feet apart.
    • Coaches and officials should follow 6 feet social distancing when interacting with each other.
    • Depending on team size, schools should consider whether roster limits (including travel rosters) should be implemented to improve social distancing.
    • For the mock coin toss, the referee, umpire and one designated representative from each team. Coin toss should take place in the center of the field with designated individuals maintaining social distancing of 6 feet. No handshakes prior to and following the coin toss. For the overtime procedure, same procedure as used at the start of the contest for the coin toss.
    • Teams shall NOT exchange handshakes following the contest – teams can acknowledge opponent with other appropriate non-contact measures.


Scrimmages
  • For the 2020 football season, scrimmages against another school are still permitted. Intra-squad scrimmages are also permissible.

Practice/Game Protocols
  • Sanitizing: Hand sanitizing should be used as much as possible. The NFHS Sports Medicine Advisory Committee recommends using hand sanitizer when going to and from the field. Players are encouraged to provide their own hand sanitizer and/or sanitizing wipes.
  • Mandatory Timeouts: An officials’ timeout will be taken every 4 minutes of game clock time in order for teams to properly sanitize and hydrate during the contest. This timeout is to be two minutes in length. In addition, the intermission between the 1st and 2nd quarter and the 3rd and 4th quarter should also be two minutes in length in order to allow for proper sanitizing and hydration.
  • Masks: Masks are encouraged but not required to be worn by players, game officials, chain gangs, ball retrievers, statisticians, managers, athletic trainers and coaches. It is recommended that if worn, players and coaches wear a mask that is a solid color. There is no prohibition on the color of the mask.
  • Shields: Plastic shields covering the entire face (unless clear and integrated into the face mask and attached to the helmet) shall not be allowed during the contest.
  • Mouth Protector: It is recommended that players keep their tooth and mouth protector in their mouths at all times. Each time they touch their tooth and mouth protector, they should sanitize their hands.
  • Gloves: Unless made of unaltered plain cloth, gloves must have a permanent, exact replica of the NOCSAE glove seal or the SFIA glove seal. This seal must be visible and appear legibly on the exterior wrist opening of the glove. Non-athletic gloves, worn solely for the purpose of warmth, and made of unaltered plain cloth and which do not enhance the contact with the ball do not require a stamp indicating compliance.
  • Skin Coverage: Players are encouraged to cover up as much of their bare skin as possible. Using long sleeved dry weave shirts and tights can cover bare skin.
  • Spitting: Spitting is to be prohibited.
  • Use of Water: Water is to be consumed only. Players should not rinse their mouth, rinsing their mouth piece, or pour water on their faces or necks.
  • Game Balls: The ball should be cleaned and sanitized throughout the contest using sanitizing solutions recommended by the ball manufacturer. During games, it is recommended that each time there is a fourth down, a new football be brought into play. It is recommended that each team provide at least two reliable, knowledgeable ball attendants for each contest and that they maintain the appropriate social distancing guidelines throughout the contest.
  • Facility Sanitizing: At the conclusion of each game, it is necessary to sanitize both the home and visiting team benches and any other areas that may have been used by either team. Spectator areas, locker rooms, training rooms, restrooms, concession stands and press box should also be cleaned and sanitized.


Game Officials
  • Football game officials that have registered to work this fall but elect not to work as a result of COVID-19 need to contact Laura Brooker at officials@iahsaa.org prior to August 27 regarding refunds.
  • Game officials are responsible for bringing their own beverages and own food items to the site.
  • Officials are responsible for bringing their own hand sanitizer and sanitizing wipes.
  • If available, dressing facilities for game officials should be large enough for them to use social-distancing protocols and should be properly cleaned and sanitized prior to their arrival.
  • Maintain social distancing of 6 feet while performing duties.
  • Officials Conferences: The authorized conference for the game officials’ timeout should take place between the 9-yard marks and not at the sideline for social-distancing purposes.
https://www.iahsaa.org/covid-19-fall-football/
 

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The schedules for the MVC schools are out. They will play MVC divisional games Weeks 3-7. They’re mostly playing some cross-divisional games Weeks 1-2, with a few exceptions.
  • Looks like Dubuque Hempstead is playing Western Dubuque Week 2 (schedule says “WD” so I’m guessing it’s the Bobcats and not West Delaware - Western Dubuque originally had Assumption that week)
  • City High hosts Davenport Central Week 1 (originally a Week 9 game at Davenport)
  • Linn-Mar hosts Xavier Week 2 (that was on the original schedule Week 4)
  • Waterloo West plays Waterloo East Week 1 (as originally scheduled)
 

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And surprise surprise! It looks like the first Illinois kid announcing a transfer to play in Iowa this fall is going to ... (drum roll) ... Dowling! What a shocker.

Domenic Virelli, a D-2 prospect as a long snapper and offensive lineman from Nazareth Academy, announced on Twitter that he’s enrolling at Dowling and intending to play this season.
That’s a hell of a commute from suburban Chicago to Des Moines...I’m sure it’s for the academics...as all their “transfers” are.
 
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And surprise surprise! It looks like the first Illinois kid announcing a transfer to play in Iowa this fall is going to ... (drum roll) ... Dowling! What a shocker.

Domenic Virelli, a D-2 prospect as a long snapper and offensive lineman from Nazareth Academy, announced on Twitter that he’s enrolling at Dowling and intending to play this season.

Mommy and daddy are renting an apartment for 3 1/2 months so a D2 Long Snapping Specialist prospect can play football?? To each their own I guess.
 

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To be fair, that would be pretty devastating news to find out there won't be football in the fall in Illinois.
This doesn't seem to be school hopping so much as just wanting to get to actually play.
 

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You won’t hear it on local media because it doesn’t fit the “ private school recruiting narrative” but Valley “recruited” a kid 5 days ago (Landon Nelson - announced on twitter just like this kid. Hearing Waukee has one as well.
 

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Iowa is going to be gaining a bunch of new athletes if we're one of the only states around continuing to offer high school athletics. And, can you really blame them? Kids and their families only get one shot at this, and it has already been damaged. Looking to salvage what they can.
 

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Yeah well, the reality is once a team has one or more kids (or coaches) test positive then the proverbial fecal matter hits the fan and all bets are off...including the season. I applaud the effort and optimism by the IHSAA but it’s going to take some real cojones on the part of school administrators/IHSAA to keep the season alive this year...but you never know.
 
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Yeah well, the reality is once a team has one or more kids (or coaches) test positive then the proverbial fecal matter hits the fan and all bets are off...including the season. I applaud the effort and optimism by the IHSAA but it’s going to take some real cojones on the part of school administrators/IHSAA to keep the season alive this year...but you never know.
Question for clarification:
Surely a couple of positives wouldn't shut a whole team down, would it?
That would be absurd if that would be the case. Just sit the one or two for the 2 weeks (Or whatever) and play on. HS Baseball this year didn't do that (with a few exceptions).
 

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I’d like to think not but I know of baseball programs that canceled games with one positive test. I mean let’s be honest, this is football, how in the hell do the 22 kids on the field “social distance” (unless you’ve got a Barry Sanders and in that case most players couldn’t get within six feet of him). I read the IHSAA guidance and though well intentioned, I just think it’s rather impractical but again, it’s at least an attempt. Perhaps I missed the protocol from the IHSAA as to what a player/team must do when an individual(s) tests positive. And seeing how the various school administrators, teachers and parents have reacted with respect to the academic calendar, it’s not a reach to assume there will be schools who will opt out if the virus surges.

On another note, this article is truly disturbing
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...-illinois-high-school-association/5543771002/
 

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So here’s my question(s), if everyone in school is social distancing as much as possible and wearing masks. Do they still shutdown schools if a case arises? Because if so what’s the point? And how does a case in another part of the school translate to sports shutdowns? So so many unknowns
 

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It depends. If they follow the IDPH guidance in the strictest sense, then all ‘close contacts’ to a positive case should isolate 14 days.
But, we know only about 8% of those who even feel sick enough to get tested turn out positive.
And the isolation guidance is a suggestion, not a mandate.
So, if administrators use an approach of isolating anyone sick as soon as possible, and otherwise using the suggested precautions. Then cases should remain at manageable levels, hopefully.
 

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Any bets he'll play for Nazereth in the spring?
I saw something from a Quad Cities reporter about the Illinois athletic association rules. If a player transfers out of state to live with a relative like an uncle or something, he would not be eligible to compete if he transferred back to Illinois later that school year. However, if his parents move out of state and he transfers, and then they move back later in the year, he would be eligible in that case.

So if his parents (or one of his parents) moved to Des Moines for the fall semester, and then they moved back to Illinois in November/December, he could indeed play football in Iowa this fall and again in Illinois next spring.
 
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