I understand that, but I don't think those points add up to #6.State rankings are decided on a points per game system like they have been for years. That system never seems to favor Regina’s schedule.
I understand that, but I don't think those points add up to #6.State rankings are decided on a points per game system like they have been for years. That system never seems to favor Regina’s schedule.
Points | Point Avg | Name |
31 | 1.938 | Gladbrook-Reinbeck |
20 | 1.667 | Western Christian |
21 | 1.400 | West Liberty |
18 | 1.385 | Des Moines Christian |
18 | 1.200 | West Branch |
21 | 1.105 | Regina Catholic |
15 | 0.938 | Treynor |
10 | 0.667 | Columbus Catholic |
So, do you mean explain the math or explain how it's right?Someone is going to have to explain to me how Regina was ranked #2 in 1A for most of the season, and has beaten West Liberty and West Branch, yet is seeded at #6 behind them both.
Looking forward to being down September 8!On to football. Summer workouts start Tuesday. Good luck at state everyone.
The state is only ever going to respond to the problems of the past. I don't think they have any mechanism to innovate in much of any way. So, if they hear from coaches that the system is broken, they MIGHT make changes, but change is slow.Not every team can schedule Waterloo East, Davenport West, Iowa Falls-Alden, Belmond Klemme, Sumner Fredricksburg, etc.
But, I guess the IHSAA wants everyone to try. Beating up on the worst 3A and 4A teams just for seeding points doesn't seem like a positive for the sport, but that's what the state is encouraging.
The record does appear to be padded with really bad 3A teams. Which, has admittedly worked to this point, and landed them with the easiest path to the Finals.Nice passive aggressive shot at GCGR Pine.
At least 4 of those count as 2A games - Don't do much for development but they are some extra points.It's further compounded by the RVC requiring full conference play which eats up the majority of the schedule with meaningless games.
You can complain about anything that you want but the system is what it is. Talk to the state or you AD about the issues. You clearly don't understand the rules.I understand that, but I don't think those points add up to #6.
Last year he complained about the Elo ranking system because it didn’t favor Regina and this year he’s saying it should be used now that it favors Regina more than the point system does. I respect the dedication.You can complain about anything that you want but the system is what it is. Talk to the state or you AD about the issues. You clearly don't understand the rules.
What’s the score?The State made a big mistake with the ref crew for this Regina vs WL game. They have already lost control.
Regina won 2-1. WB lost 4-0. Columbus Catholic lost 4-0.What’s the score?
The more people I talk to, the more I understand that ELO, as implemented is only really very effective if all the teams play each other and it was designed to take a larger sample over a larger period of time. That being said, I think it's better than the point by class average (which would be less problematic if you took out the denominator and just ran with you win playing up you get points, you lose, you just lose the opportunity to get points had you played in class. Hopefully ELO can be tweaked a little, perhaps using the eventual results against the substate end rankings and see if they can adjust how "expected wins" are calculated and get rid of any 0-0 teams from the sample (if just looks bad.)No. I missed that the seeding points were averaged and not cumulative.
That was later explained, and I appreciated the clarification.
But, I do think it’s odd to use two different rating systems, at different points in the season.
And, the ELO ranking system clearly does have problems.
Yeah, I get that, but you'd think they few sports writers, few ADs, few parents would post some score updates on Twitter, but there's nothing. IHSSN (and yes, wonderful having the streams available - hats off!) updated brackets (which IHSAA and Bound still largely haven't. I post with the hashtag #iahssocc but nobody else does (or any other tag I can find.) If you know of a better one, let me know.Soccer is the red headed step child, but there are some media coverage but seems to be local or even school oriented but nothing updated regularly. Except for scores not much to keep updated. At least there is live stream.
Here are a couple quotes and examples of how physical the Regina vs. West Liberty game got:
“It means the world to be back here,” Lipsius said. “It means so much to everyone. Everyone is putting in all the effort, we have a couple of people bleeding because they are putting in all they can to every game.”
"Jack Hoover hopped off the bench for a postgame interview Tuesday at Cownie Soccer Park with a scraped-up lower leg that revealed the intensity of the last 80 minutes."
Coming in on the keeper, late, cleats up. No foul, no warning, no card. Luckily the keeper wasn't hurt.
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We have similar pictures from the Mediapolis vs West Liberty game last week. Luckily Drew was prepared for it and even got some tackles in while playing the ball as GK. #11 for WL did get a yellow mid first half and sat out the rest of the game after sliding into Drew cleating (nice mark and swollen below the eye) him in the face and kneeing him in the ribs.Picture not posting:
Still 1-0 at the second half water breakRegina up 1-0 at the first half water break