Alabama is # 1 again
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5 completely wrong sentences in a 6 sentence opening paragraph. You've done similar when discussing LSU before, but it is impressive nonetheless.
Can you explain the data that leads to the colors? I'm betting that you can't.
WTF happened to California? Specifically Southern California? Did it finally fall into the ocean?
Haha, Greta is your hero? Why am I not surprised?
What's happening to Biden is cruel AF and the same was true about Greta's childhood. You guys are some sick MFer's imho.
Well here you go:
Hey SEC, forget about Clemson, FSU, OK & TX, here comes the Hawks!
Just kidding, but I’m interested in what the thoughts are about those four joining the SEC?
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One more time time since the AL governor Is urging, actually pleading with you, to get vaccinated and quit using causing other people to not get vaccinated. The variant D is starting to attacking younger people now. Even people who already had the Covid should be vaccinated. Go tell the governor he is wrong. Or just keep being part of the problem.
Who is causing others to not get vaccinated, @Bill_D ? Everyone has their own free will to vaccinate. You believe every lie they tell on CNN, don’t you?
I took your advice and emailed the governor. But I just copied and pasted your blather and then sent a bunch of laughing emojis and lmaooooo.
I have natural antibodies. I DGAF if you think I should also vaccinate. You do you, I'll do me. Two very prominent studies, along with a few other smaller ones, say that my natural antibodies are MORE resistant to Covid than your vaccine antibodies.
How many times can I type this before it penatrates for you?
Also, our governor is a she. Her name is Kay Ivey.
Delta isn’t attacking younger people any worse than the previous versions have. It just infects more people, so it is infecting more younger people in the process.
And milder from what I’ve seen. My data set is rather small, but only one person I’ve seen that got it a second time had it worse. And she’s a disgusting fat.
Edit to add- there are much more health related illnesses that she needs to be concerned about than wuhan virus.
Reduced Risk of Reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 After COVID-19...
This report describes COVID-19 reinfection among vaccinated and unvaccinated persons in Kentucky.
www.cdc.gov
I’m naturally immune too and therefore don’t need the shot. The problem is that @Bill_D thinks watching CNN for 15 minutes qualifies him as an expert on all things COVID-19 when the truth is he doesn’t know shite from apple butter.
Saw this and thought it fits in well with this thread.
www.foxnews.com
Law professor sues George Mason University over 'bizarre' COVID vaccine mandate
Todd Zywicki, a professor at George Mason University's Antonin Scalia Law School, is suing George Mason University over the university’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate, arguing that he already contracted the novel coronavirus and believes he is protected due to natural immunity.
Natural infection vs vaccination: Which gives more protection?
Nearly 40% of new COVID patients were vaccinated - compared to just 1% who had been infected previously.
www.israelnationalnews.com
Ho hum, another day, another paper suggesting that natural immunity is stronger and longer lasting than vaccine-induced immunity.
Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections
Background Reports of waning vaccine-induced immunity against COVID-19 have begun to surface. With that, the comparable long-term protection conferred by previous infection with SARS-CoV-2 remains unclear. Methods We conducted a retrospective observational study comparing three groups...
Or if you just want a blurb of the abstract
Results: SARS-CoV-2-naive vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021. The increased risk was significant (P<0.001) for symptomatic disease as well. When allowing the infection to occur at any time before vaccination (from March 2020 to February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated, though SARS-CoV-2 naive vaccinees had a 5.96-fold (95% CI, 4.85 to 7.33) increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold (95% CI, 5.51 to 9.21) increased risk for symptomatic disease. SARS-CoV-2-naive vaccinees were also at a greater risk for COVID-19-related-hospitalizations compared to those that were previously infected. Conclusions: This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.
Ho hum, another day, another paper suggesting that natural immunity is stronger and longer lasting than vaccine-induced immunity.
Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections
Background Reports of waning vaccine-induced immunity against COVID-19 have begun to surface. With that, the comparable long-term protection conferred by previous infection with SARS-CoV-2 remains unclear. Methods We conducted a retrospective observational study comparing three groups...www.medrxiv.org
Or if you just want a blurb of the abstract
Results: SARS-CoV-2-naive vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021. The increased risk was significant (P<0.001) for symptomatic disease as well. When allowing the infection to occur at any time before vaccination (from March 2020 to February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated, though SARS-CoV-2 naive vaccinees had a 5.96-fold (95% CI, 4.85 to 7.33) increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold (95% CI, 5.51 to 9.21) increased risk for symptomatic disease. SARS-CoV-2-naive vaccinees were also at a greater risk for COVID-19-related-hospitalizations compared to those that were previously infected. Conclusions: This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.
Thanks for posting.
So what it is saying in the last sentence is that getting vaccinated even if you have had the disease gives you additional protection against the disease. Simply that is what I’m saying. You need to get vaccinated even if you had the disease.Ho hum, another day, another paper suggesting that natural immunity is stronger and longer lasting than vaccine-induced immunity.
Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections
Background Reports of waning vaccine-induced immunity against COVID-19 have begun to surface. With that, the comparable long-term protection conferred by previous infection with SARS-CoV-2 remains unclear. Methods We conducted a retrospective observational study comparing three groups...
Or if you just want a blurb of the abstract
Results: SARS-CoV-2-naive vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021. The increased risk was significant (P<0.001) for symptomatic disease as well. When allowing the infection to occur at any time before vaccination (from March 2020 to February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated, though SARS-CoV-2 naive vaccinees had a 5.96-fold (95% CI, 4.85 to 7.33) increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold (95% CI, 5.51 to 9.21) increased risk for symptomatic disease. SARS-CoV-2-naive vaccinees were also at a greater risk for COVID-19-related-hospitalizations compared to those that were previously infected. Conclusions: This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.
Also the theory of it fading out and getting weaker is only true if it doesn’t evolve into a more infectious variety. I presume you are working on one that will overcome the almost natural immunity of children. I wonder what our hospitals will look like then. . The only way to slow evolvement down is for people to not get it.
I almost left that out, because I knew you'd miss the larger point. I also knew you wouldn't read the actual paper, which means you didn't read the following line either:
"Individuals who were previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 seem to gain additional protection from a subsequent single-dose vaccine regimen. Though this finding corresponds to previous reports, we could not demonstrate significance in our cohort."
In other words, it was a pretty small effect.
It might make sense for somebody your age to get the vaccine after infection, because even double-vaccinated you are at higher risk than I am. That holds true even if I was unvaccinated without previous infection.
Considering that my protection from previous infection is significantly higher than your protection (given our large age gap) from double vaccination (and I'm also less likely to catch it and spread it than you are), why should I take on additional risk of any vaccine side effect for almost no gain?
Is a "vaccine resistant" strain more likely to come out of a large amount of spread in a vaccinated population, or a large amount of spread in an unvaccinated population? Hint: It's not the latter
No, you told us the vaccine was the better, more robust option as compared to natural immunity. You did so in a thread where I posted research from two studies that stated otherwise.
I can find that thread again if you like. ***edit...it's in this freaking thread 😂
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The rest of the report in its entirety. You argued otherwise. Apology accepted.
And I will get vaccinated the very moment that I decide to, Dr. Bill.
He cannot stand to admit when he is wrong. This study proves he was so he needs to cling to something rather than stating, "well...it appears that I was wrong."
The quoted part is what a better man would have said.
We have seen bill get slapped with the hammer of truth on many occasions over the years only to turn a blind eye and continue down his path of deceit and frivolity.
Bump!
This has nothing to do with AL’s vaccination status but your representative Mo Brooks…. I kind of like his moxie.
www.breitbart.com
“Time and time again, President Biden has shown the strength of a marshmallow and the intellectual capacity and judgment of a gnat,”
LOL….and that might actually be overselling a gnat.
This has nothing to do with AL’s vaccination status but your representative Mo Brooks…. I kind of like his moxie.
Mo Brooks Demands Biden's Resignation: 'Strength of a Marshmallow'
Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL) demanded President Biden's resignation Friday as the number of elected Republicans calling for him to resign grows.
www.breitbart.com
LOL….and that might actually be overselling a gnat.
Had no idea who he was until now. I give him +1000 points for that quote.
There is no larger point in than that. As for as leaving out the sentence as I said you pick and choose for your agenda and I wouldn’t have been surprised, but they clearly said even if you had the disease the vaccine would give you better protection. That is the major point. Get vaccinated even if you had the Covid. No way around it.
Regardless even if you had the Covid Husky’s paper said the vaccine would make you more resistant than the antibodies alone. I really don’t care if you get vaccinated or not. But it’s better if you do.
The report didn’t basically prove me wrong. There are other people saying other things. If you didn’t have the disease vaccination helps. If you did have it it helps. They went around a long block but that is how you should summarize it.
It’s been said that a man, when wrong, can admit that he’s wrong is a wise man.
Also, a man that is 100% irrefutably right but can STILL admit that he’s wrong is a married man.
Wrong again. It said, “Though this finding corresponds to previous reports, we could not demonstrate significance in our cohort."
