Email from North Union ADCan I ask where you saw this? I fully believe you, but I just can't find it.
I tend to agree with everything here. But one thing I would add is I think some of the blame lies with our Dept of Ed!Couldn't agree more. It causes issues with the need to list 10 teams to match up for non-district recommendations. Schools begin talking to each other in November/December and all of the initial work can be thrown out the window. They release the classifications/districts late- that causes the initial lists to be worthless and then it becomes hard to match with schools in a shortened amount of time. The state was angry last year because many schools didn't match. Get the classifications/districts out in December and then schools will have an ampul amount of time to build their lists and match up.
They wernt going to step on the girls union and take some of the luster out of the girls state wrestling tournament this week. I look for something next week as its basically a dead week. I also heard its taking a bit longer because a number of schools on bubble of each classification and want to make sure they have the numbers accurate. Heard their were like 5 or 6 teams within a % point of each other at the bottom of 2A and 1A.Would have been a great Friday to get classifications!
Would have been a great Friday to get classificatio
It's very frustrating but the delay has nothing to do with the Association or any time table/dead week. It is 100% because there were a bunch of schools who appealed their classification number and the Dept of Education is taking forever to figure those out now! Hopefully classifications will be out next week but at this point I'm not holding my breath!They wernt going to step on the girls union and take some of the luster out of the girls state wrestling tournament this week. I look for something next week as its basically a dead week. I also heard its taking a bit longer because a number of schools on bubble of each classification and want to make sure they have the numbers accurate. Heard their were like 5 or 6 teams within a % point of each other at the bottom of 2A and 1A.
Free and Reduced numbers can fluctuate as people apply at any time. It is my understanding that there is not a deadline like the count date. So probably some on the bubble are delaying/ appealing to drumming up applications so they don't have to go up a classI'm not really sure how there can be so many errors? The schools give the state their numbers and the state gives them to the IHSAA. I could understand there being a typo but it just seems weird.
Exactly, you'd think it would be a simple process but apparently it isn't! It maybe boils down to schools finding out they might be moving up a class so then they dig to double check numbers and dates?I'm not really sure how there can be so many errors? The schools give the state their numbers and the state gives them to the IHSAA. I could understand there being a typo but it just seems weird.
Be interesting to see what the FRL numbers are for the top 4 or 8 of each class. Did they do a study before implementing?I think the FRL multiplier is a good thing, but if it's true that schools are arguing their FRL number or changing it, then it's obvious there needs to be a hard deadline on FRL numbers too (like there are for BEDs)
Isn't St Albert already in class A or are we talking about a different ST AlbertSo the FRL numbers for public schools appeared on the state website this morning, or in the last couple days, I think I checked on Friday. With that information here is what I now have for classifications.
5A
Johnston
Valley
Linn-Mar
Waukee NW
Southeast Polk
Ankeny Centennial
Waukee
Ankeny
Pleasant Valley
Cedar Falls
DSM Lincoln
Prairie
DSM Roosevelt
Waterloo West
CR Kennedy
City High
Dowling
DSM East
Iowa City West
Bettendorf
Ames
Dubuque Senior
SC East
Hempstead
Liberty
SC North
CR Jefferson
Marshalltown
Muscatine
Urbandale
Ottumwa
Indianola
CB Lincoln
Davenport Central
Dallas Ceter Grimes
Norwalk
Couple of things here, first off Valley has a FRL of 68%, now that will never change their class but I was surprised it was that high. Secondly I have heard that DSM Hoover may not have a program, or that they would combine with North if that is the case move DSM Hoover/North in and Norwalk out. That will kind of always be the possibility for the classes.
4A
North Scott
Davenport West
CR Washington
Lewis Central
DSM North
Davenport North
CB Thomas Jefferson
Western Dubuque
Clinton
Sioux City West
Fort Dodge
Waterloo East
Bondurant Farrar
Mason City
Burlington
Pella
CCA
Newton
Carlisle
Waverly Shell Rock
Marion
Storm Lake
Xavier
ADM
DSM Hoover
Boone
Le Mars
North Polk
Denison Schleswig
Spencer
Oskaloosa
Ballard
Gilbert
Decorah
Glenwood
Sergeant Bluff Luton
If North and Hoover combine Williamsburg could jump up .
3A
Williamsburg
Grinnell
Winterset
Solon
Heelan
Assumption
Mount Pleasant
Central DeWitt
MOC-FV
Des Moines Christian
Keokuk
Sioux Center
Benton
Harlan
Wahlert
Webster City
Mount Vernon
Independence
Knoxville
Nevada
Fort Madison
Perry
Carroll
Clear Lake
Center Point Urbana
Humboldt
Atlantic
Creston
West Delaware
Fairfield
Algona
Maquoketa
Saydel
Washington
Greene County
Central Lee
Charles City could be bumped up by Hoover/North
2A
Charles City
Iowa Falls - Alden
Unity Christian
Vinton-Shellsburg
Spirit Lake
West Liberty
Waukon High
South Tama County
Centerville
Anamosa
West Burlington
Clarke
PCM
Okoboji
Mid-Prairie
Cherokee
Boyden-Hull High School/Rock Valley
Sheldon
Van Meter
Central Lyon/GLR
Davis County
Western Christian
Clarinda
Albia
Roland-Story
Crestwood
Pella Christian
Estherville Lincoln Central
Alburnett
Chariton
Kuemper
Oelwein
Mediapolis
North Fayette Valley
Forest City
Monticello
Tipton
Wilton
Odebolt Arthur Battle Creek Ida Grove
Southeast Valley
Osage
Denver
Dike-New Hartford
New Hampton
Woodward-Granger
Hampton-Dumont
West Branch
West Marshall
Union could be bumped up by Hoover/North
1A
Union
Bellevue
Eagle Grove
Garner-Hayfield-Ventura
Shenandoah
Interstate 35
Camanche
Treynor
West Lyon
Jesup
Regina
Red Oak
Grandview Christian
Eddyville-Blakesburg-Fremont J
Sigourney Keota
Northeast Goose Lake
MFL MarMac
Clarion-Goldfield-Dows
Underwood
Cascade
Hinton
Saint Albert
West Central Valley
Aplington-Parkersburg
Ogden
Cardinal
Maple Valley-Anthon Oto
Beckman
Columbus
Central Springs
Durant
Grundy Center
Ridge View
Hudson
Sumner-Fredericksburg
Sioux Central
Pleasantville
South Hardin
Panorama
Emmetsburg
Manson Northwest Webster
South Central Calhoun
Louisa-Muscatine
East Sac County
Tri-Center
Pocahontas Area
Lisbon
Alta-Aurelia
A
Lawton-Bronson
South Hamilton
MMCRU
Maquoketa Valley
West Sioux
Wapsie Valley
Logan-Magnolia
Missouri Valley
Riverside
Earlham
Colfax-Mingo
Nodaway Valley
Nashua-Plainfield
East Marshall
South Winneshiek
Madrid
Hartley-Melvin-Sanborn
Van Buren County
Mount Ayr
AHSTW
Danville
AC/GC
Sibley-Ocheyedan
Belmond-Klemme
Columbus Community
Westwood
Woodbury Central
Southwest Valley
Postville
West Fork
Lynnville-Sully
Lake Mills
North Butler
Pekin
AGWSR
BGM
Central Decatur
Wapello
Akron Westfield
East Buchanan
North Cedar
IKM-Manning
North Mahaska
St Ansgar
BCLUW
Wayne
West Hancock
North LInn
Martensdale-St Mary’s
South O'Brien
Newman Catholic
Midland
Clayton Ridge
West Monona
Starmont
Gehlen
Highland
I don't know about Woodbine, New London or WACO. New London is a school that the radio guy keeps listing as a class A school, but I am not sure why. With A, Saint Albert might split with Heartland Christian which would bump them down to A and the the DSM Hoover situation, so Lawton Bronson and South Hamilton could be 1A.
Nice work PNation! 3A is interesting with what they'll do with that NW area like you mentioned.Going with these changes that I am pretty sure will happen
1. DSM Hoover combining with DSM Roosevelt
2. Saint Albert not having Heartland Christian
3. Central Lee dropping Holy Trinity, and Holy Trinity probably going with Burlington
Here is what I have for districts
4A
District 1
Denison Schleswig
Le Mars
SC West
Sergeant Bluff Luton
Storm Lake
Spencer
District 2
Mason City
Fort Dodge
Boone
Gilbert
Ballard
North Polk
District 3
Decorah
Waverly Shell Rock
Waterloo East
Marion
CR Washington
Xavier
District 4
Western Dubuque
North Scott
Clinton
Davenport North
Davenport West
Burlington
District 5
CCA
Williamsburg
Pella
Oskaloosa
Newton
Bondurant Farrar
District 6
Carlisle
DSM North
ADM
Glenwood
CB TJ
Lewis Central
So when you map out 4A, you could send Denison to the 3 Council Bluffs area schools, and then Fort Dodge west, and the probably Mason City east, but I like the way I have this, Western Dubuque to Burlington is a trip not no farther than Western Dubuque to Mason City. Then I also tried to and you'll see this in every class have 2 of what I see as the top teams in each district, which other than the NW district I think I did.
3A
District 1
Heelan
Sioux Center
MOC FV
Harlan
Carroll
Greene County
District 2
Algona
Humboldt
Webster City
Clear Lake
Iowa Falls Alden
Charles City
District 3
Independence
West Delaware
Wahlert
Maquoketa
Central De Witt
Assumption
District 4
Solon
Washington
Fairfield
Mount Pleasant
Fort Madison
Keokuk
District 5
Mount Vernon
Benton
CPU
Nevada
Grinnell
Knoxville
District 6
Saydel
Des Moines Christian
Creston
Winterset
Atlantic
Perry
I think the big question is who they send to play the 3 far NW Iowa schools, to me this makes the most sense but they could send Humboldt, Algona, and Webster City, which would have an impact of the eastern half of the state.
2A
District 1
Central Lyon GLR
Western Christian
BH/RV
Cherokee
Sheldon
Unity Christian
District 2
Spirit Lake
Okoboji
Esterville LC
Kuemper
OABCIG
Southeast Valley
District 3
Forest City
Osage
Crestwood
New Hampton
Waukon
NFV
District 4
Denver
Oelwein
Union
Vinton Shellsburg
Alburnett
Anamosa
District 5
Monticello
Mid Prairie
West Branch
West Liberty
Wilton
Tipton
District 6
Dike New Hartford
South Tama
West Marshall
Hampton Dumont CAL
Woodward Granger
Roland Story
District 7
PCM
Pella Christian
Davis County
Central Lee
Mediapolis
West Burlington ND
District 8
Clarinda
Van Meter
Clarke
Chariton
Centerville
Albia
Few things
Clarinda is on an island like Decorah, sending them with those schools makes the most sense. The two NW district are tough, but that is how it is always going to be, with CGD and GHV going down it is tough to send Forest City west to the great lakes when there aren't enough schools for 6 teams, so you kind of end up sending Kuemper, OABCIG and SE Valley north. The map is a lot cleaner on the eastern half if Central Lee was in 3A, but I ended up trying to spread out the better teams.
1A
District 1
West Lyon
Hinton
Lawton Bronson
MVAOCOU
Ridge View
Alta Aurelia
District 2
Sioux Central
Emmetsburg
Pocahontas
Manson NW Webster
East Sac
SCC
District 3
Eagle Grove
GHV
CGD
Central Springs
South Hardin
Grundy Center
District 4
AP
Hudson
Waterloo Columbus
Jesup
Sumner Fred
MFL MarMac
District 5
Beckman
Cascade
Bellevue
Lisbon
Camanche
NE Goose Lake
District 6
Durant
Regina
Louisa Muscatine
Cardinal
Sigourney Keota
Eddyville BF
District 7
Pleasantville
I35
South Hamilton
Grandview Christian
Odgen
Panorama
District 8
West Central Valley
Shenandoah
Red Oak
Treynor
Underwood
Tri-Center
Probably the easiest map to place teams for me, West Lyon is actually kind of on an island, but all the teams they are playing make sense, there are also 5 SW teams, but WCV being right on I80 made the most sense to send them out west. And then there are 3 places that Grundy and South Hardin could land, but I think if you are trying to balance districts where I sent them makes the most sense.
A
District 1
West Sioux
Akron Westfield
Gehlen
MMCRU
South O'Brien
HMS
Sibley Ocheyden
District 2
West Hancock
Lake Mills
Belmond Klemme
West Fork
Newman
North Butler
Saint Ansgar
District 3
Nashua Plainfield
Wapsie
East Buc
BGM
East Marshall
BCLUW
AGWSR
District 4
South Winn
Postville
Clayton Ridge
Starmont
Maquoketa Valley
Midland
North Cedar
District 5
North Linn
Highland
Columbus Community
Wapello
Danville
Van Buren
Pekin
District 6
North Mahaska
Lynnville Sully
Wayne
Central Decatur
Mount Ayr
Colfax Mingo
Madrid
District 7
AC/GC
Earlham
Martendale St Marys
Nodaway Valley
Southwest Valley
IKM Manning
AHSTW
District 8
Riverside
Saint Albert
Missouri Valley
LoMa
West Monona
Westwood
Woodbury Central
This is the toughest one to do because I am unsure of a few teams and whether they might be in 8 man, first off district 1 is nice and tidy, district 2 I would like to split West Hancock and Saint Ansgar but I don't see an easy way to do it. District 3 is a little bit of a mix and match, but I think Wapsie and NP will be good and East Buc while down last year should rebound so it makes sense in my head. District 4 I would like to put in one more of what I see as a top 15-20 team but I don't think South Winn and Starmont won't be too bad to go along with Maquoketa Valley. District 5 I sent North Linn all the way south because I had a coach tell me that he thought that this would happen just because other than Pekin that district is terrible and they kind of replace Lisbon. District 6 is kind of like district 4 with Madrid and some very average teams, although I switched Mount Ayr and MSTM to try and bring some balance. District 7 I made that switch with AC/GC, Earlham, and AHSTW that is a pretty solid district. District 8 will always be lead by Woodbury Central, but LoMa, Saint Albert and Riverside can all be tough.
I am in no way saying that these are perfect or what they will be, but mapping it out and trying to maintain some balance this is what I came up with.
I didn't get to 8 man yet I will work on that.