Class A Season Outlook
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Saints win 18-0. Wapsie fumbled the ball away twice, combine that with the 4th down stop to end the 1st half and its hard to win. St. Ansgar has forced many turnovers this year and continued that trend tonight.
Wapsie is a great team just hard to overcome the turnovers.
Wapsie is a great team just hard to overcome the turnovers.
That game was alot closer than the score shows and also a few huge calls helped out Saint Ansgar. Wapsie driving on the SA 25 and bad intentional grounding call on Wapsie that killed the drive in the 3rd quarter down 12-0 and on that last Td for SA it was 3rd and 4 in the red zone they get a holding call and the ref marks it off from the end of the run not at the spot of the hold and ends up being 3rd and 5 instead of 3rd and 14 and SA scores next play. Just had to point those two huge calls out that were wrong/blown.
Tough 2nd round matchup, definitely felt like a quarterfinals game not 2nd round. Probably should have been a quarterfinals matchup this year imo. Hats off to Saint Ansgar, really physical team and very well coached team. Dont do anything to beat themselves. Best of luck the rest of the year to you guys.
I'm sorry but in what world is that a bad intentional grounding call. Qb was still in the pocket, on top of the defender so not down, no receiver in the area, and the ball didn't get to the line of scrimmage. If we're pointing out bad calls how about the play before that where there was a blatant hold on the St. Ansgar linebacker #2 by wapsi valley's #2. This sequence begins at the 1 hour 52 minute and 30 second mark in the stream on youtube.
In regards to the hold on the touchdown drive, the hold happens a little past the 2 hour 2 minute mark in the stream. The hold was called on the st ansgar left tackle, number 51, and it happened one yard before the end of the run. You can see the flag hit him as the play is ending. Holding is a spot foul so it was marked 10 yards back from where the hold happened. You can see these both in the video on the youtube.
It was a very hard fought game like you said, just don't want you blaming the officials.
It’s Wapsie* by the way and not blaming the officials at all lol just point out two calls. Even take those two things I said and make them go Wapsies way doesn’t mean they win the game, those calls didn’t make or break the game. Saint Ansgar was the better team on the field tonight. Wapsie made to many mistakes to win a round of 16 playoff game. So don’t get its twisted here my man lol not blaming the refs at all on this loss. Saint Ansgar won this game not taking anything away from that team.
Sucks this had to be a 2nd round game should have been at least a quarters game. The Wapsie game will be a tougher game than maq valley, mark it down
Madrid really outperformed. The computer model expected a coin-flip game; Madrid wins 33-0. Congratulations!
Lucky draw by Madrid they got one of the easiest round of 16 teams imo, not sure how surprised anyone is by this score. I get the computer is becuse of stat/ or what not. I’ll take Lisbon by 3 scores next round.
I feel like I should defend Pekin. (Sorry I have no insight.)
I used to run a prediction game on iapreps.com. This would definitely provide the answer to "what is the general fan thinking".
I used to run a prediction game on iapreps.com. This would definitely provide the answer to "what is the general fan thinking".
My 4 Dome teams.
West Hancock beats Woodburry 28-7 This game is outside in colder weather with Woodbury on the road that's not good for them
Tri Center beats ACGC 24-16 This is the best matchup, I think TC has the better defense to get the win
ST Ansger Beats MV 28-6 MV hangs around early but to much size for SA
Madrid Beats Lisbon 34-24 Lisbon's sched extremely weak and Madrid gets the win on the road.
West Hancock beats Woodburry 28-7 This game is outside in colder weather with Woodbury on the road that's not good for them
Tri Center beats ACGC 24-16 This is the best matchup, I think TC has the better defense to get the win
ST Ansger Beats MV 28-6 MV hangs around early but to much size for SA
Madrid Beats Lisbon 34-24 Lisbon's sched extremely weak and Madrid gets the win on the road.
I like it all but flip that Lisbon and Madrid game. I think Lisbon is still better talent wise even outside that schedule
Personally see four really good games. I gave my predictions in a different thread, but here are some keys I see.
West Hancock vs. Woodbury Central: I don't think weather will be a factor, so can Woodbury Central get off the field on 3rd downs, West Hancock when they are rolling can demoralize teams picking up 3rd down after 3rd down. For West Hancock can their defense step up and slow down Woodbury Central especially in the passing game, the first two rounds West Hancock has given up yards and points, and teams in the past that have beaten WH have been successful in the air.
AC/GC vs Tri-Center: This truly comes down to which defense plays better, I think both will have their hands full, and while Tri Center has been better statistically, I think AC/GC can still play defense well, the other big one for me is if AC/GC has to throw the ball can they do it? Maybe the other question is can Tri-Center make AC/GC throw the ball.
Saint Ansgar vs Maquoketa Valley: I know this sounds crazy with a Saint Ansgar game but I think the key is in the air Friday. I would expect MV to load the box, Saint has thrown for probably more yards then in the last 25 seasons, but can they do that in a big game? Then Wapsie was pretty successful in the air last Friday how well does MV throw this Friday?
Lisbon vs Madrid: First key and this is a lame one, but turnovers, when Madrid lost to Earlham they lost the turnover battle 4-0, so that could be huge. Second key for me is which star has the better game, they are completely different though. Wicker is a QB, but is essentially the RB as well, so can Lisbon make his night difficult, and can Madrid adjust if they slow him down. Then can Lisbon contain the Boots kid, he is very very fast, can they stop him before he gets going?
West Hancock vs. Woodbury Central: I don't think weather will be a factor, so can Woodbury Central get off the field on 3rd downs, West Hancock when they are rolling can demoralize teams picking up 3rd down after 3rd down. For West Hancock can their defense step up and slow down Woodbury Central especially in the passing game, the first two rounds West Hancock has given up yards and points, and teams in the past that have beaten WH have been successful in the air.
AC/GC vs Tri-Center: This truly comes down to which defense plays better, I think both will have their hands full, and while Tri Center has been better statistically, I think AC/GC can still play defense well, the other big one for me is if AC/GC has to throw the ball can they do it? Maybe the other question is can Tri-Center make AC/GC throw the ball.
Saint Ansgar vs Maquoketa Valley: I know this sounds crazy with a Saint Ansgar game but I think the key is in the air Friday. I would expect MV to load the box, Saint has thrown for probably more yards then in the last 25 seasons, but can they do that in a big game? Then Wapsie was pretty successful in the air last Friday how well does MV throw this Friday?
Lisbon vs Madrid: First key and this is a lame one, but turnovers, when Madrid lost to Earlham they lost the turnover battle 4-0, so that could be huge. Second key for me is which star has the better game, they are completely different though. Wicker is a QB, but is essentially the RB as well, so can Lisbon make his night difficult, and can Madrid adjust if they slow him down. Then can Lisbon contain the Boots kid, he is very very fast, can they stop him before he gets going?
It is going to be really interesting how the quarters shake out. There is so much non-cross over competition as you get deeper into the playoffs. In some of the match-ups that certainly rings true. That being the case there is a good bit of unknown.
Leaning on winners being WH, ACGC (this one is probably the toughest matchup of all quarters), SA, Madrid. WH has tradition on their side. Based on ACGC stats they have weapons. They did give up some big points to two teams this season which you wonder about. Have not looked at stats on those games. If not a turnovers issue at play or players available issue in those then the D is an ingredient that could swing the pendulum TCs way. The counter to that is they have two backs over 1000, a 3rd with almost 900, and a 4th back that averages 8 YPC and nearly 4000 yards team rushing on the season. The WH boys' podcast mentioned passing being something questionable with ACGC so I looked. Have 550 yards passing this year. Around 1 out of every attempt it is a TD and 65% completion rate. What does that mean, not sure, but that adds up to almost 4600 offensive yards on the season which catches attention. Lisbon put up some big points and not so sure the S o S for MV is a chink in assessing their team strength. Lisbon takes a hit due to the questions on Pekin's S o S in my estimation as well. Madrid has Wicker and last year's dome experience on their side. Earlham and Woodward would bad losses but picked things back up and ran away from Pekin. Madrid wins but a factor could be not playing at home that makes it challenging. I miss the wishbone attack and ability to spread the ball around to multiple backs to make it difficult on opponents. Wicker carries the offense on his back pretty good the last two years and believe he will this game against Lisbon as well. Worrisome for me is that if you stop Wicker you stop Madrid. He carries the day again Friday.
Weather could play a part for some games.
Leaning on winners being WH, ACGC (this one is probably the toughest matchup of all quarters), SA, Madrid. WH has tradition on their side. Based on ACGC stats they have weapons. They did give up some big points to two teams this season which you wonder about. Have not looked at stats on those games. If not a turnovers issue at play or players available issue in those then the D is an ingredient that could swing the pendulum TCs way. The counter to that is they have two backs over 1000, a 3rd with almost 900, and a 4th back that averages 8 YPC and nearly 4000 yards team rushing on the season. The WH boys' podcast mentioned passing being something questionable with ACGC so I looked. Have 550 yards passing this year. Around 1 out of every attempt it is a TD and 65% completion rate. What does that mean, not sure, but that adds up to almost 4600 offensive yards on the season which catches attention. Lisbon put up some big points and not so sure the S o S for MV is a chink in assessing their team strength. Lisbon takes a hit due to the questions on Pekin's S o S in my estimation as well. Madrid has Wicker and last year's dome experience on their side. Earlham and Woodward would bad losses but picked things back up and ran away from Pekin. Madrid wins but a factor could be not playing at home that makes it challenging. I miss the wishbone attack and ability to spread the ball around to multiple backs to make it difficult on opponents. Wicker carries the offense on his back pretty good the last two years and believe he will this game against Lisbon as well. Worrisome for me is that if you stop Wicker you stop Madrid. He carries the day again Friday.
Weather could play a part for some games.
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