BG...tell us again how wind and solar will save mother earth

[BamaFan1137]

...though it might get a bit nippy in the winter.

Germany’s ‘Green’ Energy Failure: Germany Turns Back To Coal And Natural Gas As Millions Of Its Solar Panels Are Blanketed In Snow And Ice | Tech News | Startups News - WorldNewsEra

Energiewende is a German word for ‘”energy transition.” Energiewende is a policy launched by the German government in 2000 to decarbonize its primary energy

worldnewsera.com

 

[billywayneluck]

...though it might get a bit nippy in the winter.

Germany’s ‘Green’ Energy Failure: Germany Turns Back To Coal And Natural Gas As Millions Of Its Solar Panels Are Blanketed In Snow And Ice | Tech News | Startups News - WorldNewsEra

Energiewende is a German word for ‘”energy transition.” Energiewende is a policy launched by the German government in 2000 to decarbonize its primary energy

worldnewsera.com

Not like anyone didn’t see this coming.

I’m all for renewable and “green” energy. I’m not all for sacrificing our way of life for a system that can’t sustain it. Why not use renewable where it works and makes sense? Maybe let the profits from those sales fund R&D for newer and better systems?

 

[GADAWGinIraq]

The world has gone mad.

 

[Reasoned]

The world has gone mad.

Understatement of the year.

 

[BamaFan1137]

BG was convinced that I was FOS when I said...well, exactly what this article says.

 

[BKHusky]

Now they are looking at rolling blackouts in Texas due to half the turbines freezing in place.

But hey, who needs power during one of the most impactful winter storms of the last century out there?

 

[BamaFan1137]

Now they are looking at rolling blackouts in Texas due to half the turbines freezing in place.

But hey, who needs power during one of the most impactful winter storms of the last century out there?

Light the dead birds underneath them on fire....problem solved.

 

[billywayneluck]

Here's an update on the subject.

ERCOT Urges Texans To Conserve Power; Rolling Blackouts Possible - Spring Happenings

1:36 AM / UPDATE: The Electric Reliability Council of (Texas ERCOT) has issued a Level 3 Energy Emergency…

www.springhappenings.com

 

[Reasoned]

Sounds like Texas has been Californicated.

 

[derek_tiger]

Here's an update on the subject.

ERCOT Urges Texans To Conserve Power; Rolling Blackouts Possible - Spring Happenings

1:36 AM / UPDATE: The Electric Reliability Council of (Texas ERCOT) has issued a Level 3 Energy Emergency…

www.springhappenings.com

4 degrees this morning w/ -17 wind chill. Rolling blackouts since 2a; cold faucet in MB bath room on MY side froze (cold only)... have been running the space heater under the cabinet for hours (when power in on obviously) but still nothing; HW side next to it is fine and so is both faucets on wife's sink (both are on outside walls). Weird.

Where's that climate change when we need it?? Such a load of horseshyt just like wind/solar is going to save us one day. Better start building nuke plants if they want us off fossil fuels. AND, start spending time & energy to figure a way to power fighter planes, ships, & missiles and our cars on fusion technology.

 

[billywayneluck]

4 degrees this morning w/ -17 wind chill. Rolling blackouts since 2a; cold faucet in MB bath room on MY side froze (cold only)... have been running the space heater under the cabinet for hours (when power in on obviously) but still nothing; HW side next to it is fine and so is both faucets on wife's sink (both are on outside walls). Weird.

Where's that climate change when we need it?? Such a load of horseshyt just like wind/solar is going to save us one day. Better start building nuke plants if they want us off fossil fuels. AND, start spending time & energy to figure a way to power fighter planes, ships, & missiles and our cars on fusion technology.

Get used to it. I think the days of rationing power in the US are coming.

 

[Reasoned]

Get used to it. I think the days of rationing power in the US are coming.

That ain’t all we’ll be rationing...in addition to common sense and sanity.

 

[ZosoDawg]

Sounds like Texas has been Californicated.

sounds extremely painful.

 

[ZosoDawg]

...though it might get a bit nippy in the winter.

Germany’s ‘Green’ Energy Failure: Germany Turns Back To Coal And Natural Gas As Millions Of Its Solar Panels Are Blanketed In Snow And Ice | Tech News | Startups News - WorldNewsEra

Energiewende is a German word for ‘”energy transition.” Energiewende is a policy launched by the German government in 2000 to decarbonize its primary energy

worldnewsera.com

 

[GwinnettDawg]

Crickets...

 

[Sanctions Stand]

Sounds like Texas has been Californicated.

I would let the liberals in Austin freeze. Tell em' global warming is coming soon to warm their liberal azz up.

 

[BKHusky]

You know what would really solve the problems in Texas, if we added another couple million electric cars.

 

[David_Dennison]

...though it might get a bit nippy in the winter.

Germany’s ‘Green’ Energy Failure: Germany Turns Back To Coal And Natural Gas As Millions Of Its Solar Panels Are Blanketed In Snow And Ice | Tech News | Startups News - WorldNewsEra

Energiewende is a German word for ‘”energy transition.” Energiewende is a policy launched by the German government in 2000 to decarbonize its primary energy

worldnewsera.com

Yep it’s gotta be about renewable energy right? LOLOL
Read slowly and summarize ... especially the part about gas pressure. Nice try but crash and burn.

Frozen Wind Farms Are Just a Small Piece of Texas’s Power Woes

Don’t point too many fingers at Texas wind turbines, because they’re not the main reason broad swaths of the state have been plunged into darkness.

www.bloomberg.com

 

[David_Dennison]

BG was convinced that I was FOS when I said...well, exactly what this article says.

You were... and still are

Frozen Wind Farms Are Just a Small Piece of Texas’s Power Woes

Don’t point too many fingers at Texas wind turbines, because they’re not the main reason broad swaths of the state have been plunged into darkness.

www.bloomberg.com

 

[David_Dennison]

Now they are looking at rolling blackouts in Texas due to half the turbines freezing in place.

But hey, who needs power during one of the most impactful winter storms of the last century out there?

That’s because Texans are just fvcking stupid. It’s rarely a problem anywhere else in the world because they design them right. Denmark and Norway ... even Iowa are LOLing.

of course you will still say renewable energy is evil and The election was rigged. There is substantial evidence against both if you get information from unbiased sources.
Read and acknowledge so I will know that you learned something.

Frozen Wind Farms Are Just a Small Piece of Texas’s Power Woes

Don’t point too many fingers at Texas wind turbines, because they’re not the main reason broad swaths of the state have been plunged into darkness.

www.bloomberg.com

 

[Pops Masterson]

That’s because Texans are just fvcking stupid. It’s rarely a problem anywhere else in the world because they design them right. Denmark and Norway ... even Iowa are LOLing.

of course you will still say renewable energy is evil and The election was rigged. There is substantial evidence against both if you get information from unbiased sources.
Read and acknowledge so I will know that you learned something.

Frozen Wind Farms Are Just a Small Piece of Texas’s Power Woes

Don’t point too many fingers at Texas wind turbines, because they’re not the main reason broad swaths of the state have been plunged into darkness.

www.bloomberg.com

A lecture on unbiased sources from a guy that cites huff post and Vox. I’ve seen it all. 😆

 

[David_Dennison]

4 degrees this morning w/ -17 wind chill. Rolling blackouts since 2a; cold faucet in MB bath room on MY side froze (cold only)... have been running the space heater under the cabinet for hours (when power in on obviously) but still nothing; HW side next to it is fine and so is both faucets on wife's sink (both are on outside walls). Weird.

Where's that climate change when we need it?? Such a load of horseshyt just like wind/solar is going to save us one day. Better start building nuke plants if they want us off fossil fuels. AND, start spending time & energy to figure a way to power fighter planes, ships, & missiles and our cars on fusion technology.

Any information on the failure of the gas grid which supplies 75% of Texas power. Largest energy producing and reddest of red states? ??? Why not?

 

[BamaFan1137]

Yep it’s gotta be about renewable energy right? LOLOL
Read slowly and summarize ... especially the part about gas pressure. Nice try but crash and burn.

Frozen Wind Farms Are Just a Small Piece of Texas’s Power Woes

Don’t point too many fingers at Texas wind turbines, because they’re not the main reason broad swaths of the state have been plunged into darkness.

www.bloomberg.com

So...yea...clearly you didn't read the link. Did you even click on it?

 

[BamaFan1137]

You were... and still are

Frozen Wind Farms Are Just a Small Piece of Texas’s Power Woes

Don’t point too many fingers at Texas wind turbines, because they’re not the main reason broad swaths of the state have been plunged into darkness.

www.bloomberg.com

How would you know? You didn't bother to read what I was referring to.

 

[BamaFan1137]

Read and acknowledge so I will know that you learned something.

...the fvcking irony in this sentence 🤣 😂

 

[David_Dennison]

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Texans designing windmills are like Kirby defending a lead in a big game. I can give them the names of some Norwegian and Danish engineers that can help them out with Wind Turbine 191. You know it never gets icy up there near the Arctic Circle.

Why Wind Turbines In Cold Climates Don’t Freeze: De-Icing And Carbon Fiber

Turbines in colder climates are typically equipped with de-icing and other tools, such as built-in heating. In Texas, it's not usually necessary.

www.forbes.com

 

[BamaFan1137]

Any information on the failure of the gas grid which supplies 75% of Texas power. Largest energy producing and reddest of red states? ??? Why not?

Just for ahits and giggles, my OP and the link within it are dated prior to your wind farms freezing in place.

IOW's...they have nothing to do with that particular fvcktarded liberal disaster.

 

[David_Dennison]

How would you know? You didn't bother to read what I was referring to.

That’s because I know with certainty that you don’t know jack shit about wind turbines. You could however provide a lot of good advice about freeze proofing pipes in steam plants... or storing enough gas to keep pressure up. Any suggestions there? Now would be a good time .

Why Wind Turbines In Cold Climates Don’t Freeze: De-Icing And Carbon Fiber

Turbines in colder climates are typically equipped with de-icing and other tools, such as built-in heating. In Texas, it's not usually necessary.

www.forbes.com

 

[David_Dennison]

Just for ahits and giggles, my OP and the link within it are dated prior to your wind farms freezing in place.

IOW's...they have nothing to do with that particular fvcktarded liberal disaster.

Any comments on gas management here or just renewables? Here’s a left wing source for you.

Texas largely relies on natural gas for power. It wasn’t ready for the extreme cold.

Texas largely relies on natural gas — especially during times of high demand — to power the state. Experts say natural gas infrastructure, from pumping it out of the ground to the plants in city centers, was unprepared for the plunging temperatures brought by the winter storm.

www.texastribune.org

 

[BamaFan1137]

That’s because I know with certainty that you don’t know jack shit about wind turbines. You could however provide a lot of good advice about freeze proofing pipes in steam plants... or storing enough gas to keep pressure up. Any suggestions there? Now would be a good time .

Why Wind Turbines In Cold Climates Don’t Freeze: De-Icing And Carbon Fiber

Turbines in colder climates are typically equipped with de-icing and other tools, such as built-in heating. In Texas, it's not usually necessary.

www.forbes.com

Read the link. Now would be a good time.

 

[BamaFan1137]

Any comments on gas management here or just renewables? Here’s a left wing source for you.

Texas largely relies on natural gas for power. It wasn’t ready for the extreme cold.

Texas largely relies on natural gas — especially during times of high demand — to power the state. Experts say natural gas infrastructure, from pumping it out of the ground to the plants in city centers, was unprepared for the plunging temperatures brought by the winter storm.

www.texastribune.org

How about we just try to stay on topic for moment before you spin to a new one???

C'mon buddy, you can do it. Hell, you could try.

 

[ZosoDawg]

Texans designing windmills are like Kirby defending a lead in a big game. I can give them the names of some Norwegian and Danish engineers that can help them out with Wind Turbine 191. You know it never gets icy up there near the Arctic Circle.

Why Wind Turbines In Cold Climates Don’t Freeze: De-Icing And Carbon Fiber

Turbines in colder climates are typically equipped with de-icing and other tools, such as built-in heating. In Texas, it's not usually necessary.

www.forbes.com

except Roscoe Wind Farms near Abilene is one of the top ten wind farms in the world. And it’s owned and operated by Germany-based company E.ON Climate and Renewables .

 

[BKHusky]

That’s because Texans are just fvcking stupid. It’s rarely a problem anywhere else in the world because they design them right. Denmark and Norway ... even Iowa are LOLing.

of course you will still say renewable energy is evil and The election was rigged. There is substantial evidence against both if you get information from unbiased sources.
Read and acknowledge so I will know that you learned something.

Frozen Wind Farms Are Just a Small Piece of Texas’s Power Woes

Don’t point too many fingers at Texas wind turbines, because they’re not the main reason broad swaths of the state have been plunged into darkness.

www.bloomberg.com

Unbiased sources....and you provide a link to “Bloomberg Green”.

We could of course try to have an intelligent conversation on the topic, but you’ve proved you aren’t capable, so the pot shots are the only thing worth the time.

 

[dhetiger]

Texans designing windmills are like Kirby defending a lead in a big game. I can give them the names of some Norwegian and Danish engineers that can help them out with Wind Turbine 191. You know it never gets icy up there near the Arctic Circle.

Why Wind Turbines In Cold Climates Don’t Freeze: De-Icing And Carbon Fiber

Turbines in colder climates are typically equipped with de-icing and other tools, such as built-in heating. In Texas, it's not usually necessary.

www.forbes.com

All jokes aside, I have a question for you. I acknowledge that you have more experience in the wind energy field than anyone here. You have commented before about Norway and Denmark and their wind power. My question is, do you think their ability to produce consistent energy (I think both get around 40% of their energy production from wind) is due to offshore farms? Both have extensive western coastlines, and the general wind movement in those latitudes is west to east. Everyone knows that offshore wind is more consistent, both in existence and speed, due to no friction caused by land. You mentioned Iowa before, and I worked on a USDA project in Iowa and have seen some of their wind farms. When I was there, those turbines didn't move for a large majority of the time. The farm looked more like an advertisement for Mercedes. How can the US be more productive in wind energy, because using the Plains as the wind source isn't going to be the answer?

 

[hokiemokie]

That’s because I know with certainty that you don’t know jack shit about wind turbines. You could however provide a lot of good advice about freeze proofing pipes in steam plants... or storing enough gas to keep pressure up. Any suggestions there? Now would be a good time .

Why Wind Turbines In Cold Climates Don’t Freeze: De-Icing And Carbon Fiber

Turbines in colder climates are typically equipped with de-icing and other tools, such as built-in heating. In Texas, it's not usually necessary.

www.forbes.com

And you know jack shit about oil and gas production ! The link you provided is nothing more than a blame game hit piece. How the fvck do you think they produce natural gas on the north slope of Alaska ? If natural gas is freezing it's due to failure of personnel , I can flow gas in any part of the world. You just got to know how it's done.

 

[derek_tiger]

Any information on the failure of the gas grid which supplies 75% of Texas power. Largest energy producing and reddest of red states? ??? Why not?

Speaking of LOL... you try your damndest to cherry pick an argument that might pass the lower IQ people, but just stop for this group, mmmmmkay?

You can tell when you don't even click a link, like this summary shows:
Germany faces a sober reality as millions of its solar panels are blanketed in snow and ice and breathless. The freezing weather has rendered its 30,000 wind turbines to idleness. It is not just the wind turbines. Solar panels covered with snow are also rendered useless. You may call it “coal comfort” as a total collapse in the wind and solar output leaves freezing Germans desperate for coal-fired power.

This alone destroys your paper-thin argument... the damn Germans WANT renewables and have paid double electric prices for decades over the U.S. to get to this?? HA! What a fuking red herring... funny if it weren't so sad.

The Texas problem isn't a 'fossil fuel' problem... its a HUMAN MGT problem! This freezing temperature issue has happened x2 since 2010... and the people in charge still haven't learned their lessons from before. Virtually every issue right now, from gas wells freezing up to even nuclear power plants (water pumps freezing) has been identified as something that needed to be corrected from earlier problems, but were NOT fixed. Lack of accountability is not on the product, it's on the human goobers that didn't do their job.

Jeebus I feel like I'm talking to a teenager...
Governor urges probe of electricity-grid operators

 

[hokiemokie]

All jokes aside, I have a question for you. I acknowledge that you have more experience in the wind energy field than anyone here. You have commented before about Norway and Denmark and their wind power. My question is, do you think their ability to produce consistent energy (I think both get around 40% of their energy production from wind) is due to offshore farms? Both have extensive western coastlines, and the general wind movement in those latitudes is west to east. Everyone knows that offshore wind is more consistent, both in existence and speed, due to no friction caused by land. You mentioned Iowa before, and I worked on a USDA project in Iowa and have seen some of their wind farms. When I was there, those turbines didn't move for a large majority of the time. The farm looked more like an advertisement for Mercedes. How can the US be more productive in wind energy, because using the Plains as the wind source isn't going to be the answer?

I have always thought that harnessing sea currents would be a good source of energy. Narrowing inlets to bays causing turbines to move at greater speeds and longevity coming from tides seems to me would work well. You know Alaska has tremendous tide levels sometimes reaching 30 feet. There is a constant current in the oceans .I have observed currents in the Gulf of Mexico that I estimate being at least 10-12 mph flowing across the legs of platforms. Personally I don't believe the wind power will ever become primary source of energy. Gators link stated that Texas wind energy produces 7 % of the power and I have driven through Texas and seen thousands of turbines and with that in mind just how much land will it take to provide enough space for enough turbines to be worthwhile. Texas had gotten used to having the 7 % supply and when they lost most of that they were not prepared to compensate for that loss and overworked the power generation plants.

 

[hokiemokie]

Speaking of LOL... you try your damndest to cherry pick an argument that might pass the lower IQ people, but just stop for this group, mmmmmkay?

You can tell when you don't even click a link, like this summary shows:
Germany faces a sober reality as millions of its solar panels are blanketed in snow and ice and breathless. The freezing weather has rendered its 30,000 wind turbines to idleness. It is not just the wind turbines. Solar panels covered with snow are also rendered useless. You may call it “coal comfort” as a total collapse in the wind and solar output leaves freezing Germans desperate for coal-fired power.

This alone destroys your paper-thin argument... the damn Germans WANT renewables and have paid double electric prices for decades over the U.S. to get to this?? HA! What a fuking red herring... funny if it weren't so sad.

The Texas problem isn't a 'fossil fuel' problem... its a HUMAN MGT problem! This freezing temperature issue has happened x2 since 2010... and the people in charge still haven't learned their lessons from before. Virtually every issue right now, from gas wells freezing up to even nuclear power plants (water pumps freezing) has been identified as something that needed to be corrected from earlier problems, but were NOT fixed. Lack of accountability is not on the product, it's on the human goobers that didn't do their job.

Jeebus I feel like I'm talking to a teenager...
Governor urges probe of electricity-grid operators

Spot on Derek. It doesn't have to be cold for gas wells to freeze, I've seen them freeze in 100 degree weather . Pressure drops cause freezing in gas. Nearly 100 % of wells are equipped with a choke and there is the pressure drop. sometimes the wells will have thousands of pounds of pressure upstream of the choke and hundreds downstream. There are proven methods that I have used myself to prevent this freezing and is widely used .Same principle of how refrigeration works.

 

[dhetiger]

Any information on the failure of the gas grid which supplies 75% of Texas power. Largest energy producing and reddest of red states? ??? Why not?

Gas provides less than 50% of their power.

 

[BKHusky]

Gas provides less than 50% of their power.

Yeah, gas seems to be the primary issue here