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I don't think BCL-UW will be small enough to go 8 man.

Kingsley Pierson because of a couple of bigger classes would actually miss the 8 man cutoff by .1, now I'm sure they could get the 2 year wavier, and be under in 2 years. That is also based off the BEDs information from last year, and the FRL from 2 years ago.

Saint Ansgar is another school that would be a close to small enough to go 8 man, but I doubt will ever go as long as Clevenger is there.
 
South O'Brien and West Monona are also close enough + free and reduced lunch. No idea if either will just know they're close enough.
 
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I see the 2024-25 BEDS are on the IAHSAA website. At least a guy can get an idea of what schools have made significant changes in numbers. Haven't seen FRL numbers and don't recall where to find that. Also not sure who's sharing or dissolving cooperative agreements.
 
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IHSAA CLASSIFICATIONS The IHSAA bases its classifications on school enrollment numbers from one year to inform the following school year's assignments. Enrollment numbers are provided by the Basic Educational Data Survey (BEDS) from the Iowa Department of Education. The current athletic year's...
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I see the 2024-25 BEDS are on the IAHSAA website. At least a guy can get an idea of what schools have made significant changes in numbers. Haven't seen FRL numbers and don't recall where to find that. Also not sure who's sharing or dissolving cooperative agreements.
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Are those the actual BEDS numbers for this school year though? Or is still based off a previous year?
 
Who does NE Goose Lake share football with? I see last time they did districts their number was 272, but this year they are only 209. They must share with a smaller school?? If not, thats a huge drop in numbers and would likely put them in 1A.
 
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So I've heard that Bellevue Marquette is going to join Bellevue HS in football, so they will certainly go up to 1A, and then Northeast will likely drop from 2A to 1A since they will no longer have a sharing agreement??
 
IGo42 said:
So I've heard that Bellevue Marquette is going to join Bellevue HS in football, so they will certainly go up to 1A, and then Northeast will likely drop from 2A to 1A since they will no longer have a sharing agreement??
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You are correct, I think believe Bellevue was going to be going up with or without them so they decided to take them on, I actually believe that they have been together for middle school, but then high school the Marquette kids went to NE.
 
Recruiting an entirely new school to join the team. That's one way to get better quickly.
 
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Recruiting an entirely new school to join the team. That's one way to get better quickly.
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Bellevue will only gain a handful of Marquette kids as most dont play football. They have shared with a number of schools over the years including Dubuque Whalert
 
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Bellevue will only gain a handful of Marquette kids as most dont play football. They have shared with a number of schools over the years including Dubuque Whalert
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Seems like they would probably have some good athletes to contribute, since Marquette is currently the #1 ranked basketball team in 1A.
 
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Seems like they would probably have some good athletes to contribute, since Marquette is currently the #1 ranked basketball team in 1A.
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Most of those kids dont play football. I know when they were combined with Whalert it was only like 5 or 6 kids and about the same at NE. Those Marquette kids focus on basketball and baseball as I think they may have been combined with Bellevue last summer for baseball.
 
A 1A school where the basketball kids don't even play football... That's part of the reason we end up having school sharing agreements, and not a great development for small school high school sports.
 
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IAHSAA's Jared Chizek just sent out an email to schools that they need to verify their enrollment #'s and FRL by next Wednesday (Jan 22nd). Iowa BOE has sent the numbers to the IAHSAA and now it's just a matter of verifying. Should be soon that we find out football classifications for the '25-'26 school years
 
Any chance that Garrigan moves back up? I don't think they would be forced to by enrollment, but they had over 50 kids out for high school last year and over 25 out for middle school. I also know they played a couple of 11 man JV games, this is the main reason that I am asking.
 
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Any chance that Garrigan moves back up? I don't think they would be forced to by enrollment, but they had over 50 kids out for high school last year and over 25 out for middle school. I also know they played a couple of 11 man JV games, this is the main reason that I am asking.
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I see quite a few 8 man teams that have larger numbers participating than some class A as well as 1A schools. Not many if any teams that play 8 man want to move back up unless forced to do so.
 
So the state released the official BEDS numbers (like the Government not the IHSAA) and going off of the old Free and Reduced Numbers which should be close, this is where teams would fall. Also Grandview Christian isn't listed as a school, but I assume that they still are. These are in order by size.

5A

Valley High School
Johnston Senior High School
Linn-Mar High School
Southeast Polk High School
Northwest High School
Ankeny Centennial High School
Waukee High School
Ankeny High School
Pleasant Valley High School
Lincoln High School
Roosevelt High School
Cedar Falls High School
Prairie High School
John F Kennedy High School
Iowa City High School
Waterloo West High School
Dowling Catholic High School
DSM East High School
Dubuque Senior High School
IC West Senior High School
Marshalltown High School
Ames High School
Bettendorf High School
Des Moines East High School
Hempstead High School
Thomas Jefferson High School
Liberty High School
SC North High School
Muscatine High School
Urbandale High School
Ottumwa High School
Indianola High School
Abraham Lincoln High School
Central High School
Dallas Center-Grimes High School
North Scott High School

4A
Davenport West High School
Norwalk Senior High School
George Washington High School
Lewis Central Senior High School
SC WEST
Des Moines North High School
Davenport North High School
Western Dubuque High School
Thomas Jefferson High School
Clinton High School
Fort Dodge High School
Bondurant-Farrar High School
Waterloo East High School
Mason City High School
Pella High School
Burlington Community High School
Clear Creek Amana High School
Newton Senior High School
Carlisle High School
Waverly-Shell Rock Senior High School
Marion High School
Storm Lake High School
Xavier High School
ADM Senior High School
Hoover High School
Denison High School
North Polk High School
Le Mars High School
Boone High School
Spencer High School
Oskaloosa High School
Ballard High School
Gilbert High School
Glenwood Senior High School
Decorah High School
Sergeant Bluff-Luton Senior High School

3A
Grinnell Community Senior High School
Williamsburg Jr-Sr High School/Hillcreast
Solon High School
Bishop Heelan Catholic High School
Assumption High School
Winterset Senior High School
Central DeWitt High School
Des Moines Christian Secondary School
Mount Pleasant High School
Sioux Center High School
MOC-Floyd Valley High School
Keokuk High School
Fort Madison Junior/Senior High School
Wahlert Catholic High School
Harlan High School
Nevada High School
Mount Vernon High School
Independence Junior Senior High School
Benton Community Senior High School
Carroll High School
Webster City High School
Knoxville High School
Center Point-Urbana High School
Perry High School
Clear Lake High School
Atlantic High School
Creston High School
Humboldt High School
Maquoketa Community High School
Algona High School
West Delaware High School
Fairfield High School
Vinton-Shellsburg High School
Greene County High School/Paton
Central Lee High School
Charles City High School

2A (There are two Washington High Schools one is Cherokee)
Saydel High School
Unity Christian High School
Washington High School
Iowa Falls - Alden High School
Centerville High SchoolMoulton/Udell
Spirit Lake High School
South Tama County High School
Hampton-Dumont High School
Mid-Prairie High School
Boyden-Hull High School/Rock Valley
Washington High School
Clarke Community High School
West Burlington Arnold Jr./Sr. High School
Waukon High School
West Liberty High School
PCM High School
Anamosa High School
Central Lyon Secondary School/GLR
Okoboji High School
Sheldon High School
Van Meter High School
Davis County Community High School
Clarinda High School
Western Christian High School
Crestwood High School
Pella Christian High School
Roland-Story High School
Chariton High School
Estherville Lincoln Central High School
Albia High School
Kuemper High School
Monticello High School
Mediapolis High School
Southeast Valley High School
Tipton High School
New Hampton High School
Oelwein High School
Alburnett Senior High School
Dike-New Hartford High School
Forest City High School
North Fayette Valley High School
Wilton Jr-Sr High School
Odebolt Arthur Battle Creek Ida Grove High School
Osage High School
Garner-Hayfield-Ventura High School
Woodward-Granger High School
Denver Senior High School
Shenandoah High School

1A
Camanche High School
West Marshall High School
West Branch High School
Interstate 35 High School
Union High School
Treynor High School
Bellevue High School
West Lyon High School
Eagle Grove High School
Regina Jr Sr High School
Sigourney Jr-Sr High Sch Keota
Eddyville-Blakesburg-Fremont Jr/Sr High
Underwood High School
Grandview Christian
Jesup High School
MFL MarMac High School
Red Oak Junior/Senior High School
Northeast Middle-High School
Cardinal High School
West Central Valley High School
Cascade Junior-Senior High School
Saint Albert School
Clarion-Goldfield-Dows High School
Hinton High School
Sioux Central High School
Ogden High School
Beckman Catholic High School
Columbus Catholic High School
Aplington-Parkersburg High School
Grundy Center High School
Ridge View High School
Durant Junior/Senior High School
Emmetsburg High School
Maple Valley-Anthon Oto High School
Sumner-Fredericksburg High School
Central Springs High School
Hudson High School
Pleasantville High School
Manson Northwest Webster Junior High/High School
South Hardin High School
Louisa-Muscatine JR/SR High School
South Central Calhoun High School
Panorama High School
East Sac County High School
Tri-Center High School
Lawton-Bronson Junior-Senior High School
Pocahontas Area Middle/ High School
South Hamilton Middle And High School

A would be the remaining 11 man schools

The biggest 5 would be

Lisbon Secondary School
Maquoketa Valley Senior High School
Alta-Aurelia High School
West Sioux High School
Wapsie Valley High School

Woodbine and WACO are two 8 man schools above the cutoff

Clayton RIdge, Starmont and North Union are 11 man schools that could fall below the 8 man number.


Again I don't have the official Free and Reduced numbers but I would guess that these will be pretty close.
 
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PNation said:
So the state released the official BEDS numbers (like the Government not the IHSAA) and going off of the old Free and Reduced Numbers which should be close, this is where teams would fall. Also Grandview Christian isn't listed as a school, but I assume that they still are. These are in order by size.

5A

Valley High School
Johnston Senior High School
Linn-Mar High School
Southeast Polk High School
Northwest High School
Ankeny Centennial High School
Waukee High School
Ankeny High School
Pleasant Valley High School
Lincoln High School
Roosevelt High School
Cedar Falls High School
Prairie High School
John F Kennedy High School
Iowa City High School
Waterloo West High School
Dowling Catholic High School
DSM East High School
Dubuque Senior High School
IC West Senior High School
Marshalltown High School
Ames High School
Bettendorf High School
Des Moines East High School
Hempstead High School
Thomas Jefferson High School
Liberty High School
SC North High School
Muscatine High School
Urbandale High School
Ottumwa High School
Indianola High School
Abraham Lincoln High School
Central High School
Dallas Center-Grimes High School
North Scott High School

4A
Davenport West High School
Norwalk Senior High School
George Washington High School
Lewis Central Senior High School
SC WEST
Des Moines North High School
Davenport North High School
Western Dubuque High School
Thomas Jefferson High School
Clinton High School
Fort Dodge High School
Bondurant-Farrar High School
Waterloo East High School
Mason City High School
Pella High School
Burlington Community High School
Clear Creek Amana High School
Newton Senior High School
Carlisle High School
Waverly-Shell Rock Senior High School
Marion High School
Storm Lake High School
Xavier High School
ADM Senior High School
Hoover High School
Denison High School
North Polk High School
Le Mars High School
Boone High School
Spencer High School
Oskaloosa High School
Ballard High School
Gilbert High School
Glenwood Senior High School
Decorah High School
Sergeant Bluff-Luton Senior High School

3A
Grinnell Community Senior High School
Williamsburg Jr-Sr High School/Hillcreast
Solon High School
Bishop Heelan Catholic High School
Assumption High School
Winterset Senior High School
Central DeWitt High School
Des Moines Christian Secondary School
Mount Pleasant High School
Sioux Center High School
MOC-Floyd Valley High School
Keokuk High School
Fort Madison Junior/Senior High School
Wahlert Catholic High School
Harlan High School
Nevada High School
Mount Vernon High School
Independence Junior Senior High School
Benton Community Senior High School
Carroll High School
Webster City High School
Knoxville High School
Center Point-Urbana High School
Perry High School
Clear Lake High School
Atlantic High School
Creston High School
Humboldt High School
Maquoketa Community High School
Algona High School
West Delaware High School
Fairfield High School
Vinton-Shellsburg High School
Greene County High School/Paton
Central Lee High School
Charles City High School

2A (There are two Washington High Schools one is Cherokee)
Saydel High School
Unity Christian High School
Washington High School
Iowa Falls - Alden High School
Centerville High SchoolMoulton/Udell
Spirit Lake High School
South Tama County High School
Hampton-Dumont High School
Mid-Prairie High School
Boyden-Hull High School/Rock Valley
Washington High School
Clarke Community High School
West Burlington Arnold Jr./Sr. High School
Waukon High School
West Liberty High School
PCM High School
Anamosa High School
Central Lyon Secondary School/GLR
Okoboji High School
Sheldon High School
Van Meter High School
Davis County Community High School
Clarinda High School
Western Christian High School
Crestwood High School
Pella Christian High School
Roland-Story High School
Chariton High School
Estherville Lincoln Central High School
Albia High School
Kuemper High School
Monticello High School
Mediapolis High School
Southeast Valley High School
Tipton High School
New Hampton High School
Oelwein High School
Alburnett Senior High School
Dike-New Hartford High School
Forest City High School
North Fayette Valley High School
Wilton Jr-Sr High School
Odebolt Arthur Battle Creek Ida Grove High School
Osage High School
Garner-Hayfield-Ventura High School
Woodward-Granger High School
Denver Senior High School
Shenandoah High School

1A
Camanche High School
West Marshall High School
West Branch High School
Interstate 35 High School
Union High School
Treynor High School
Bellevue High School
West Lyon High School
Eagle Grove High School
Regina Jr Sr High School
Sigourney Jr-Sr High Sch Keota
Eddyville-Blakesburg-Fremont Jr/Sr High
Underwood High School
Grandview Christian
Jesup High School
MFL MarMac High School
Red Oak Junior/Senior High School
Northeast Middle-High School
Cardinal High School
West Central Valley High School
Cascade Junior-Senior High School
Saint Albert School
Clarion-Goldfield-Dows High School
Hinton High School
Sioux Central High School
Ogden High School
Beckman Catholic High School
Columbus Catholic High School
Aplington-Parkersburg High School
Grundy Center High School
Ridge View High School
Durant Junior/Senior High School
Emmetsburg High School
Maple Valley-Anthon Oto High School
Sumner-Fredericksburg High School
Central Springs High School
Hudson High School
Pleasantville High School
Manson Northwest Webster Junior High/High School
South Hardin High School
Louisa-Muscatine JR/SR High School
South Central Calhoun High School
Panorama High School
East Sac County High School
Tri-Center High School
Lawton-Bronson Junior-Senior High School
Pocahontas Area Middle/ High School
South Hamilton Middle And High School

A would be the remaining 11 man schools

The biggest 5 would be

Lisbon Secondary School
Maquoketa Valley Senior High School
Alta-Aurelia High School
West Sioux High School
Wapsie Valley High School

Woodbine and WACO are two 8 man schools above the cutoff

Clayton RIdge, Starmont and North Union are 11 man schools that could fall below the 8 man number.


Again I don't have the official Free and Reduced numbers but I would guess that these will be pretty close.
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Where did you find the updated state beds? What were the cut off numbers for each class? I think a couple could be wrong as far as the bottom of 1A and top of A
 
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Go by public school buildings, a few you have to look up the middle schools that feed into the high school if they have an 8/9 building.

Then non public buildings

Then I did the math on a Google sheet

I’m sure these aren’t perfect and I had a Coach tell me that there are a couple of new sharing agreements but wasn’t sure who they were other than Bellevue taking on Marquette now.

I will also say an alternative center addition or online could impact these a bit as well
 
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So the state released the official BEDS numbers (like the Government not the IHSAA) and going off of the old Free and Reduced Numbers which should be close, this is where teams would fall. Also Grandview Christian isn't listed as a school, but I assume that they still are. These are in order by size.

5A

Valley High School
Johnston Senior High School
Linn-Mar High School
Southeast Polk High School
Northwest High School
Ankeny Centennial High School
Waukee High School
Ankeny High School
Pleasant Valley High School
Lincoln High School
Roosevelt High School
Cedar Falls High School
Prairie High School
John F Kennedy High School
Iowa City High School
Waterloo West High School
Dowling Catholic High School
DSM East High School
Dubuque Senior High School
IC West Senior High School
Marshalltown High School
Ames High School
Bettendorf High School
Des Moines East High School
Hempstead High School
Thomas Jefferson High School
Liberty High School
SC North High School
Muscatine High School
Urbandale High School
Ottumwa High School
Indianola High School
Abraham Lincoln High School
Central High School
Dallas Center-Grimes High School
North Scott High School

4A
Davenport West High School
Norwalk Senior High School
George Washington High School
Lewis Central Senior High School
SC WEST
Des Moines North High School
Davenport North High School
Western Dubuque High School
Thomas Jefferson High School
Clinton High School
Fort Dodge High School
Bondurant-Farrar High School
Waterloo East High School
Mason City High School
Pella High School
Burlington Community High School
Clear Creek Amana High School
Newton Senior High School
Carlisle High School
Waverly-Shell Rock Senior High School
Marion High School
Storm Lake High School
Xavier High School
ADM Senior High School
Hoover High School
Denison High School
North Polk High School
Le Mars High School
Boone High School
Spencer High School
Oskaloosa High School
Ballard High School
Gilbert High School
Glenwood Senior High School
Decorah High School
Sergeant Bluff-Luton Senior High School

3A
Grinnell Community Senior High School
Williamsburg Jr-Sr High School/Hillcreast
Solon High School
Bishop Heelan Catholic High School
Assumption High School
Winterset Senior High School
Central DeWitt High School
Des Moines Christian Secondary School
Mount Pleasant High School
Sioux Center High School
MOC-Floyd Valley High School
Keokuk High School
Fort Madison Junior/Senior High School
Wahlert Catholic High School
Harlan High School
Nevada High School
Mount Vernon High School
Independence Junior Senior High School
Benton Community Senior High School
Carroll High School
Webster City High School
Knoxville High School
Center Point-Urbana High School
Perry High School
Clear Lake High School
Atlantic High School
Creston High School
Humboldt High School
Maquoketa Community High School
Algona High School
West Delaware High School
Fairfield High School
Vinton-Shellsburg High School
Greene County High School/Paton
Central Lee High School
Charles City High School

2A (There are two Washington High Schools one is Cherokee)
Saydel High School
Unity Christian High School
Washington High School
Iowa Falls - Alden High School
Centerville High SchoolMoulton/Udell
Spirit Lake High School
South Tama County High School
Hampton-Dumont High School
Mid-Prairie High School
Boyden-Hull High School/Rock Valley
Washington High School
Clarke Community High School
West Burlington Arnold Jr./Sr. High School
Waukon High School
West Liberty High School
PCM High School
Anamosa High School
Central Lyon Secondary School/GLR
Okoboji High School
Sheldon High School
Van Meter High School
Davis County Community High School
Clarinda High School
Western Christian High School
Crestwood High School
Pella Christian High School
Roland-Story High School
Chariton High School
Estherville Lincoln Central High School
Albia High School
Kuemper High School
Monticello High School
Mediapolis High School
Southeast Valley High School
Tipton High School
New Hampton High School
Oelwein High School
Alburnett Senior High School
Dike-New Hartford High School
Forest City High School
North Fayette Valley High School
Wilton Jr-Sr High School
Odebolt Arthur Battle Creek Ida Grove High School
Osage High School
Garner-Hayfield-Ventura High School
Woodward-Granger High School
Denver Senior High School
Shenandoah High School

1A
Camanche High School
West Marshall High School
West Branch High School
Interstate 35 High School
Union High School
Treynor High School
Bellevue High School
West Lyon High School
Eagle Grove High School
Regina Jr Sr High School
Sigourney Jr-Sr High Sch Keota
Eddyville-Blakesburg-Fremont Jr/Sr High
Underwood High School
Grandview Christian
Jesup High School
MFL MarMac High School
Red Oak Junior/Senior High School
Northeast Middle-High School
Cardinal High School
West Central Valley High School
Cascade Junior-Senior High School
Saint Albert School
Clarion-Goldfield-Dows High School
Hinton High School
Sioux Central High School
Ogden High School
Beckman Catholic High School
Columbus Catholic High School
Aplington-Parkersburg High School
Grundy Center High School
Ridge View High School
Durant Junior/Senior High School
Emmetsburg High School
Maple Valley-Anthon Oto High School
Sumner-Fredericksburg High School
Central Springs High School
Hudson High School
Pleasantville High School
Manson Northwest Webster Junior High/High School
South Hardin High School
Louisa-Muscatine JR/SR High School
South Central Calhoun High School
Panorama High School
East Sac County High School
Tri-Center High School
Lawton-Bronson Junior-Senior High School
Pocahontas Area Middle/ High School
South Hamilton Middle And High School

A would be the remaining 11 man schools

The biggest 5 would be

Lisbon Secondary School
Maquoketa Valley Senior High School
Alta-Aurelia High School
West Sioux High School
Wapsie Valley High School

Woodbine and WACO are two 8 man schools above the cutoff

Clayton RIdge, Starmont and North Union are 11 man schools that could fall below the 8 man number.


Again I don't have the official Free and Reduced numbers but I would guess that these will be pretty close.
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Thanks for all the work on this! Interesting for sure! But going off last year's free and reduced lunch means there will definitely be differences. If a few schools change even by a couple % in that then it can have a big impact along the borders of each classification.
 
PNation said:
educate.iowa.gov

PK-12 Education Statistics

Explore data collected by the Iowa Department of Education (Department) in various formats for PK-12 schools in the state.
educate.iowa.gov educate.iowa.gov

Go by public school buildings, a few you have to look up the middle schools that feed into the high school if they have an 8/9 building.

Then non public buildings

Then I did the math on a Google sheet

I’m sure these aren’t perfect and I had a Coach tell me that there are a couple of new sharing agreements but wasn’t sure who they were other than Bellevue taking on Marquette now.

I will also say an alternative center addition or online could impact these a bit as well
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What were your cut enrollment numbers per class if you have them?
 
5A-4A Cutoff Teams
Dallas Center-Grimes High School 758.2
North Scott High School 747.5
Davenport West High School 744.8
Norwalk Senior High School 740.2

Those are bottom two and top two, there is a bigger gap outside of these four, but still could have some movement.

4A-3A Cutoff Teams

Decorah High School 376. 6
Sergeant Bluff-Luton Senior High School 360.3
Grinnell Community Senior High School 359
Williamsburg Jr-Sr High School/Hillcreast 356.6

Glenwood and Decorah are essentially the same size

3A-2A Cutoff Teams
Central Lee High School 274.3
Charles City High School 272
Saydel High School 268.4
Unity Christian High School 266.9

This is also assuming that Holy Trinity is still going with Central Lee

2A-1A Cutoff Teams

Denver Senior High School 198
Shenandoah High School 195.9
Camanche High School 193.6
West Marshall High School 190

I will say that there are a bunch of schools in 2A that are 202-198, but not as many "1A" schools close to the number.

1A-A Cutoff Teams
South Hardin High School150.7
Louisa-Muscatine JR/SR High School150.4
South Central Calhoun High School149.6
Panorama High School149.6
East Sac County High School149
Tri-Center High School148.7
Lawton-Bronson Junior-Senior High School147.7
Pocahontas Area Middle/ High School147.4
South Hamilton Middle And High School147.4
Lisbon Secondary School146.3
Maquoketa Valley Senior High School143.2
Alta-Aurelia High School143
West Sioux High School140.9
Wapsie Valley High School140.2

Pokey might be a school that adds in a alternative school
 
PNation said:
5A-4A Cutoff Teams
Dallas Center-Grimes High School 758.2
North Scott High School 747.5
Davenport West High School 744.8
Norwalk Senior High School 740.2

Those are bottom two and top two, there is a bigger gap outside of these four, but still could have some movement.

4A-3A Cutoff Teams

Decorah High School 376. 6
Sergeant Bluff-Luton Senior High School 360.3
Grinnell Community Senior High School 359
Williamsburg Jr-Sr High School/Hillcreast 356.6

Glenwood and Decorah are essentially the same size

3A-2A Cutoff Teams
Central Lee High School 274.3
Charles City High School 272
Saydel High School 268.4
Unity Christian High School 266.9

This is also assuming that Holy Trinity is still going with Central Lee

2A-1A Cutoff Teams

Denver Senior High School 198
Shenandoah High School 195.9
Camanche High School 193.6
West Marshall High School 190

I will say that there are a bunch of schools in 2A that are 202-198, but not as many "1A" schools close to the number.

1A-A Cutoff Teams
South Hardin High School150.7
Louisa-Muscatine JR/SR High School150.4
South Central Calhoun High School149.6
Panorama High School149.6
East Sac County High School149
Tri-Center High School148.7
Lawton-Bronson Junior-Senior High School147.7
Pocahontas Area Middle/ High School147.4
South Hamilton Middle And High School147.4
Lisbon Secondary School146.3
Maquoketa Valley Senior High School143.2
Alta-Aurelia High School143
West Sioux High School140.9
Wapsie Valley High School140.2

Pokey might be a school that adds in a alternative school
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I think the cut from 1A to A is going to be 145 and that would put 36 - 36 - 36- 48 - 48 in top 5 classes and 58 in class A the rest in 8 man that all fall at 105 and below. I just saw that BCLUW lost their multiple petitions to stay 8 man. Plus I think schools like Wayne, North Buler, Gehlen, North Union, West Monona , Highland and Starmont are all staying class A and they all fall below the 105, the last 2 in the low 90s.
 
The new classifications could be released any day. The deadline for schools to confirm their numbers and FRL was last Wednesday, so the IAHSAA already has all the info they need (and probably have had it for weeks). I hope they don't keep us waiting another month.
 
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I think the cut from 1A to A is going to be 145 and that would put 36 - 36 - 36- 48 - 48 in top 5 classes and 58 in class A the rest in 8 man that all fall at 105 and below. I just saw that BCLUW lost their multiple petitions to stay 8 man. Plus I think schools like Wayne, North Buler, Gehlen, North Union, West Monona , Highland and Starmont are all staying class A and they all fall below the 105, the last 2 in the low 90s.
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North Union is going to 8-man football.
 
So there is some talk on twitter of some schools getting waivers and some not, and someone from North Cedar mentioned that Midland did not receive a waiver. I don't know if this is true or not, but with the proximity between the two schools you would think that there would be some truth to it. Personally I don't see them being above the cutoff number. I am also wonder about Springville and combining with Cedar Valley Christian. If they don't combine they are below the threshold, but by combining they would be above.

With BCLUWs situation I see both sides to the argument, they are very close to the number and if you look at future classes they will probably fall below the threshold in 2 years. But, I do know that the state has allowed for the wavier to stay in 8 man so that schools were not forced to switch back in forth between the two types of football, and do things like change field goal posts. But not go down. I also know in talking in the past with someone involved in the process they do this because if takes the argument of being competitive out of the equation. I do not know what the schools argument is or was exactly, but I have seen some posts of people that I assume have some connection to the school like a parent that talked about being competitive, and the state really won't listen to that.

Woodbine is a school that I assume some are referring to with schools getting a waiver when a "large" number. And some think that they will play 11 man. I don' think that they will, mainly because if you look at their grade by grade enrollment the 9,10,11 grades are by far their biggest and they drop below the cutoff again in 2 years.
 
I don't think Springville is combining with CVC because that would put them in 11 man by a good amount. I have heard rumors for the last couple cycles that midland was or should have had to move up as they were over the cut line. I think the biggest issues with the waiver was I think it was Newal Fonda who was over the cut line like two cycles in a row but was given a waiver so now everyone uses them as the example. The big thing about these schools that jump back and forth and switching field dimensions yes I can see being very costly but why not just keep the field at 100 yds in length but narrow it up like it is already as its allot easier to widen your field than it is to lengthen or shorten and have to move the goal posts. You don't have to move anything to widen your field .
 
PNation said:
Those are based off of last year, as are these, but these include the 8th grade from last year which would be included, obviously kids move in and out of schools, but usually these are close.

https://educate.iowa.gov/pk-12/data/education-statistics

Go to PreK-12 Enrollments by Grade, Race and Gender, and they do break it into buildings.

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So when you pull up those beds by school and it has all the numbers per grade are we using the 9, 10 and 11 grade numbers or the 8 ,9 and 10 grade numbers
 
The ones from my latest post are from grades 9,10,11 from this years BEDs the 24-25 school year. That would be the 10-12 for next year.
 
Have heard from a few people that most if not all the schools that were trying to get a waiver were rejected, sounds like Boone is sticking to the hard cap limit which would be a change. Does anyone know for sure who is jumping from 8 man to A and vice versa. The only one I know for sure was North Tama going down as that was in their board minutes months ago. Some talk of a few others moving but no facts to back them up.
 
I wonder if that is a reaction to some 8 man schools now pushing for a second 8 man class. I personally don't think that would fix anything, Remsen St. Mary's is one of the smallest if not the smallest schools playing football, so I'm not really sure what a second 8 man class accomplishes besides punish the small schools who want to play 11 man which overall is quite a few.

I think the state knows that they need enough schools to keep Class A alive, which to me is going to be more popular then 8 man.
 
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So this is a list of questions that I think need to be answered, some we pretty much know but others we don't seem to know much about.

1. When will classifications, district and schedules be released? Furthermore, what is taking so long. I would assume that they will release the classifications first then about a week or two later districts then about a month later schedules, but honestly why don't we know anything. Other states get most of this done before Christmas.

2. What schools are combining together, and ending agreements? I think that we know Sigourney Keota, BH/RV will still be together. But there are others that I don't think we know for sure, like if River Valley is not with Kingsley Pierson who will they go with, because I don't think they can have a program by themselves? Are DSM Hoover and North going together? All of these things matter for those teams on the edge of a class.

3. What teams are going down to 8 man? The only one I think we know for sure is North Tama. There are a few others that have been rumored but I don't think we know for sure.

4. What teams are moving up to 11 man? I think we know BGM, but I don't know what has been confirmed, there is a rumor of Midland on twitter, and Woodbine is well above the cutoff, but this would be the only time they would be above the line.

5. How much will the state try to split up the best teams in each class? I don't know if this has been discussed but will the state try to split up teams that they view as the best in the class, the example I think of would be West Hancock and Saint Ansgar.
 
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I hear ya. I check daily to see if there's been any updates on the IAHSAA website. Who knows what the holdup is, maybe there are some 8-man teams over the cutoff that are throwing the challenge flag cause they don't want to move up?

Class 1A had a couple loaded districts last cycle (1A-3 & 1A-4) and then a couple that were full of mediocre teams (1A-2 & 1A-7). Hope they try to split them up a bit more this cycle.
 
I would guess that is part of it, but at the end of the day the state should know all the numbers by now and their decision on whether to grant a waiver or not.

And that is what I was getting at, I also know that there are part of the state that sometimes aren't as good as others. The last 2 years in class 1A I would kind of say the best teams have been around Waterloo, in 2A in NW Iowa, in 3A around Cedar Rapids. Where as in 1A NW Iowa was weaker, and in 2A the eastern half of the state was way down.
 
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2A was definitely stronger in western Iowa the last cycle, with 1A being stronger in the eastern half of the state. But all-in-all I do think the state did a good job of splitting teams up when it came to the playoffs and the rankings prevented teams like GC and DNH from meeting up before the championship game.
 
PNation said:
So this is a list of questions that I think need to be answered, some we pretty much know but others we don't seem to know much about.

1. When will classifications, district and schedules be released? Furthermore, what is taking so long. I would assume that they will release the classifications first then about a week or two later districts then about a month later schedules, but honestly why don't we know anything. Other states get most of this done before Christmas.

2. What schools are combining together, and ending agreements? I think that we know Sigourney Keota, BH/RV will still be together. But there are others that I don't think we know for sure, like if River Valley is not with Kingsley Pierson who will they go with, because I don't think they can have a program by themselves? Are DSM Hoover and North going together? All of these things matter for those teams on the edge of a class.

3. What teams are going down to 8 man? The only one I think we know for sure is North Tama. There are a few others that have been rumored but I don't think we know for sure.

4. What teams are moving up to 11 man? I think we know BGM, but I don't know what has been confirmed, there is a rumor of Midland on twitter, and Woodbine is well above the cutoff, but this would be the only time they would be above the line.

5. How much will the state try to split up the best teams in each class? I don't know if this has been discussed but will the state try to split up teams that they view as the best in the class, the example I think of would be West Hancock and Saint Ansgar.
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1. Classifications will be released at any moment. Schools were supposed to confirm their numbers last week. If history is any indication, there are always dozens of schools that don't get this done on time and need to be reminded several times. That is my guess on why we are waiting. Don't think it has anything to do with Boone. Now just need schools to confirm numbers.
2. Don't know anything about schools joining or disbanding other than what has been mentioned here previously
3. North Tama and North Union going 8 man. Heard that all who wanted to opt down and appealed were denied.
4. BGM. Others could/should move up but will take the one time waiver to keep them down. Schools can no longer have the waiver for 2 consecutive cycles.
5. I think they do their best at dividing up traditional or power programs but not always realistic due to geography. It would be best for all teams in the district to not have 2 top tier programs in the district as everyone gets pushed down. And...there will be at least some districts that are really weak.
 
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