Would they do new district or stay the same for this year. You think they would have to do new district due to the Waukee NW coming to 4A if they don't add a class.
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In a letter from Tharp this week dont expect anything football wise to be announced before Feb. Also dont expect districts to be announced before the state basketball tournys. Yes the board of directors are meeting today but the only thing that will come out of that meeting is what they are going to do for the state wrestling tournament.I have heard (from a reliable source) that either today or tomorrow they will announce that they are adding classifications to football, they are meeting today.
Will be interesting to see some of the records of playoff teamsLooks like 36 teams in each of the top 3 classes, based off of last years BEDS that will move many 3A teams up to 4A and Many 2A teams up to 3A. 36,36,36 Does this mean the top 108 sized schools will be 3A-5A?
Looks like 36 teams in each of the top 3 classes, based off of last years BEDS that will move many 3A teams up to 4A and Many 2A teams up to 3A. 36,36,36 Does this mean the top 108 sized schools will be 3A-5A?
5A, 4A, 3A (36 teams in each)
9 regular season games, 16 playoff qualifiers
2A(48), 1A(48), A(?), 8-Man (?)
8 regular season games, 32 playoff qualifiers
*Teams not making the playoffs may schedule their own 9th game
I like this, now those teams that are 0-8 or 1-7 can (if they choose) schedule a 9th game to end their season against another opponent with a similar record instead of getting beat 60-0 by an 8-0 team. It should make a better ending to the season for those kids on poor teams.
Remember all the work the IHSAA did last year (pre-pandemic), setting up those tiers of performance levels in 4A as an attempt to address the gaps in program performance? Where the Tier 1 teams couldn’t play anyone from Tier 4 or below? With the promise that in 2021 they’d take a serious look at reorganizing the classes to address socioeconomic and historical performance factors and not just enrollment?
Well, it’s like none of that ever happened. Sure, they split the biggest schools out into a 5A, but it’s still strictly based on the BEDS. You’ve still got the Council Bluffs schools and the Sioux City schools and the Des Moines city schools thrown in with Dowling and Ankeny and Centennial and Valley. The 5A spread goes from a BEDS of over 2000 (Valley) to less than 1000 (CB Thomas Jefferson).
So why did they do all that work last year, telling us they’d try even harder this year, only to throw it all out?
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Urbandale 4A
3A
Carroll and Keokuk actually have the same enrollment, I don't know who would be 4A based upon the states alphabet rule this year. |
Where do you go to find the beds numbers for schools that use for this list?If I figured correct off of the new BEDS numbers (some of these can be a little different in the bigger districts) these would be the classifications in the biggest 3 classes, I don't have the parochial school enrollments, but they should be close to what they had last year I would think.
5A
Valley DSM Lincoln Johnston Linn Mar Southeast Polk DSM East DSM Roosevelt Centennial Waterloo West Ankeny Cedar Falls Prairie CR Kennedy Davenport Central SC North Hempstead Waukee Waukee NW Pleasant Valley City High Marshalltown Bettendorf SC East IC West CR Jefferson Muscatine Davenport West DSM North Senior Dowling Ames CB Lincoln Davenport North Ottumwa SC West Urbandale
4A
CB Jefferson Liberty CR Washington Fort Dodge Indianola Waterloo East Mason City Norwalk DSM Hoover North Scott Clinton Burlington Lewis Central Western Dubuque DCG Newton Storm Lake Dension Spencer Pella WSR CCA Marion Boundurant Farrar Carlisle Boone LeMars Oskaloosa Xavier Webster City Glenwood Winterset Decorah Fort Madison Mount Pleasant Carroll
3A
Keokuk Perry ADM North Polk Glibert Creston Charles City Fairfield Central DeWitt Solon Knoxville BH RV Wahlert Benton Humboldt Grinnell Maquoketa SBL Heelan Assumption West Delaware Washington CPU Harlan Independence MOC South Tama Ballard Vinton Nevada Algona Sioux Center Saydel Hampton Dumont Atlantic Mount Vernon
Carroll and Keokuk actually have the same enrollment, I don't know who would be 4A based upon the states alphabet rule this year.
Football Coaches Assocation wanted 5A and 4A to be 24 teams each. Didn't get it.
Winners: Ottumwa, Davenport North, Fort Dodge, Indianola, IC Liberty, Mason City, Waterloo East, Hoover (Playing 4A football).
Losers: Des Moines East, Roosevelt, Lincoln, North (no socio-economic component - need to be in 4A football or combine for one Des Moines city team); Mount Pleasant, Webster City, Fort Madison, ADM, Carroll (Likely moving up to 4A).
It's time for SC West, East, and North to combine for one Sioux City team. It is also time for Davenport West and Davenport Central to combine for one team.
Minnesota uses free and reduced as criteria.I believe one of the reasons (at least from what I've read) is that it breaks discrimination laws to consider someone of low-socioeconomic status as less than someone else, therefore making free and reduced lunch numbers discriminatory. They also questioned whether you count the number of students that are eligible or the number that actually apply for free and reduced lunch. It was a lot of legal mumbo-jumbo that I read through quickly, but my impression was that the state might be setting themselves up for some kind of lawsuit if they use low socio-economics as a factor in determining classification.
**I could very well be wrong, just my interpretation....
I believe one of the reasons (at least from what I've read) is that it breaks discrimination laws to consider someone of low-socioeconomic status as less than someone else, therefore making free and reduced lunch numbers discriminatory. They also questioned whether you count the number of students that are eligible or the number that actually apply for free and reduced lunch. It was a lot of legal mumbo-jumbo that I read through quickly, but my impression was that the state might be setting themselves up for some kind of lawsuit if they use low socio-economics as a factor in determining classification.
**I could very well be wrong, just my interpretation....
I had heard that the socioeconomic idea is still on table they just ran out of time before this cycle needed to be done. The socioeconomics will effect more than the metro Des Moines. There are other rural schools that cannot compete with the likes of a Van Meter or a Solon because they are bedroom communities for larger metropolitan cities.
Schools can always volunteer to play up a class. All they have to do is inform the IHSAA, I think by sometime in January. I don't know if any school has ever done that, though (when Xavier and Wahlert were 4A schools back in the MVC days, that's because the MVC required members to play as 4A in football - so maybe you could count that as 'playing up,' I don't know - likewise Assumption in the MAC).can/will schools opt up? and will they do things like split up the CB schools? lot of questions
You know the boys in boone. Got to have the January of because of new years. July off for the 4th. December off because of Christmas. A week off after each state tournament. But dont forget all the time they spent this year ruling "almost" all transfers ineligible.Ran out of time? When they were supposedly working on them a year ago?
Where are you getting the “new” BEDS numbers? All I have seen is the numbers that were used for last year.If I figured correct off of the new BEDS numbers (some of these can be a little different in the bigger districts) these would be the classifications in the biggest 3 classes, I don't have the parochial school enrollments, but they should be close to what they had last year I would think.
5A
Valley DSM Lincoln Johnston Linn Mar Southeast Polk DSM East DSM Roosevelt Centennial Waterloo West Ankeny Cedar Falls Prairie CR Kennedy Davenport Central SC North Hempstead Waukee Waukee NW Pleasant Valley City High Marshalltown Bettendorf SC East IC West CR Jefferson Muscatine Davenport West DSM North Senior Dowling Ames CB Lincoln Davenport North Ottumwa SC West Urbandale
4A
CB Jefferson Liberty CR Washington Fort Dodge Indianola Waterloo East Mason City Norwalk DSM Hoover North Scott Clinton Burlington Lewis Central Western Dubuque DCG Newton Storm Lake Dension Spencer Pella WSR CCA Marion Boundurant Farrar Carlisle Boone LeMars Oskaloosa Xavier Webster City Glenwood Winterset Decorah Fort Madison Mount Pleasant Carroll
3A
Keokuk Perry ADM North Polk Glibert Creston Charles City Fairfield Central DeWitt Solon Knoxville BH RV Wahlert Benton Humboldt Grinnell Maquoketa SBL Heelan Assumption West Delaware Washington CPU Harlan Independence MOC South Tama Ballard Vinton Nevada Algona Sioux Center Saydel Hampton Dumont Atlantic Mount Vernon
Carroll and Keokuk actually have the same enrollment, I don't know who would be 4A based upon the states alphabet rule this year.
I have heard Creston will not co-op with OM this year to keep them in 3ACreston also co-ops with Orient-Macksburg and it would put them in 4A dropping Carroll to 3A along with (potentially) Mt Pleasant.
Becasue all of us 3A schools don't want to compete with you. Leave us alone. Its your fault you stink at Football.Remember all the work the IHSAA did last year (pre-pandemic), setting up those tiers of performance levels in 4A as an attempt to address the gaps in program performance? Where the Tier 1 teams couldn’t play anyone from Tier 4 or below? With the promise that in 2021 they’d take a serious look at reorganizing the classes to address socioeconomic and historical performance factors and not just enrollment?
Well, it’s like none of that ever happened. Sure, they split the biggest schools out into a 5A, but it’s still strictly based on the BEDS. You’ve still got the Council Bluffs schools and the Sioux City schools and the Des Moines city schools thrown in with Dowling and Ankeny and Centennial and Valley. The 5A spread goes from a BEDS of over 2000 (Valley) to less than 1000 (CB Thomas Jefferson).
So why did they do all that work last year, telling us they’d try even harder this year, only to throw it all out?