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Playoff Round 1 Matchups Prediction Thread

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Here are my predicted round 1 matchups below along with the mileage from each school to each other.

1s vs 4's
Ar-We-Va @ MMC (86 miles)
Harris Lake Park @ Boyer Valley (124 Miles) Awfully close to the limit
Stanton @ Glidden Ralston (97 Miles)
East Union @ Fremont Mills (90 Miles)
Kee Lansing @ Central Elkader (48 Miles)
North Iowa @ Janesville (125 miles) Awfully close as well
Meskwaki Settlement @ Don Bosco (54 Miles)
Mormon Trail @ Lamoni (29 Miles)

I tried to stay away from rematch games but with Mormon Trail and Lamoni being so far out there compared to another non-district team I was forced to rematch them with Lamoni as well as Don Bosco and Meskwaki. North Iowa/Janesville and Harris-Lake Park/Boyer Valley were really the only direction I could do with that without having to match up another district rematch if we had to stay within the 125 miles the state has claimed to set as a mileage cap.

2's vs 3's
Colo Nesco @ Newell-Fonda (128 Miles)
Guthrie Center @ Graettinger-Terril ( 121 Miles)
West Bend @ Coon Rapids (90 Miles)
Exira-EHK @ Sidney (106 Miles)
Lenox @ Melcher Dallas (88 Miles)
Wayne @ HLV (121 Miles)
West Central, Maynard @ Northwood Kensett (107 Miles)
Clarksville @ Turkey Valley (53 Miles)

This one was much harder to do than the 1v4's. Not many 2v3's that are easy to pick because of the mileage. Had to have one outside of the 125 mile radius and that was due to Graettinger being so far away from nearly every 3 seed around other than West Central and Guthrie Center. Guthrie was the more logical choice for me as it would really screw up the others if we placed West Central there.

Looking at my predictions once I am done I do like a lot of the 2v3 seed matchups. Especially the West Bend-CRB game as well as the Wayne-HLV matchup. It will be interesting to see how the state does it if they are relatively close to this or if they say screw it and basically match up the old sister districts again with each other. Should be fun to see come Saturday how they do it.
This post was edited on 10/20 10:06 AM by high90school
 
The only thing I see that could be changed would be sending Colo to CRB and West Bend to NF. I would think that would be closer for both traveling teams, but I didn't run the numbers. Great work High90school! This new format has added a lot of excitement to the playoffs!!
 
That probably would work a little better than what I have currently. West Bend to Newell is only 56 miles and Colo to Coon Rapids is only 82 miles. Either way I still like the West Bend matchup wherever they end up with either of those two games.
 
My projections are pretty close mine are all in the 125 mile radius. I also have mormon trail as the 4 seed due to tie breaker rules and how I see the last week going for them twin cedars and wayne.

1 vs 4
BV vs HLP
MMC vs AWV
Janesville vs North Iowa
Central Elkader vs MEskwaki
Don Bosco vs Kee
Lamoni vs Morman Trail
Glidden vs Stanton
Fremont Mills vs East Union

2 vs 3
Newell vs WBM
GTRA vs Guthrie
NK vs WCM
TV vs Clarksville
HLV vs Wayne
Melcher Dallas vs Lenox
Coon vs Colo
Sidney vs EHK
 
I agree I see Mormon Trail sneaking in before Twin Cedars just looking at who they have to play. I think we are in agreement that Lamoni and Moman Trail will meet again round 1. They are just so far out of the loop compared to any other 1 or 4 seed it just has to be that way I feel. I could see your way happening but I could also see it happening where they want to cut travel time down and play the district rematch with Bosco and Meskwaki and send Central Elkader to Kee. Shorter drives for both. I looked at your way but felt they would go the shorter travel times for both games over a non-district matchup. Hard telling though how they will do it.
 
I doubt they would have teams rematch in the first round. I would think that possibly Lamoni could host East Union and Mormon Trail get sent elsewhere. That is just my two cents worth.
 
There isn't anyone close to Mormon Trail that they could go to. Closest #1 would be Fremont Mills and thats over 135 miles away and the next closest is Glidden which is over 140. Doesn't make sense to send teams that far to play someone they haven't seen yet especially when the state caps travel at 125 miles. Maybe if it was round 2 or 3 when teams get to be a little bit more thin then sure but not first round I dont think. I think they will keep those two at the rematch over sending them on a hike to play someone new.
 
Midland will most likely get the D4 #4 spot as Kee will be playing this Friday without two crucial linemen. Both left the Elkader game with season ending injuries. I'll just leave it at that...
 
OHS4life. So the kid who Fitzgerald blew up on the onside kick that Elkader executed while up 68-20 with two minutes left in the game is out for the season?
 
The twin cedars, mormon trail, wayne thing will come down to the 13 pt tie breaker. Why I have wayne as the 3 and mormon as the 4.
 
Yes he is, due to it being his third concussion. That's not sitting very with some people...I'd be surprised if this was the last time you heard about this incident too.
 
Too bad for the young men from Kee. Why would Central onside kick that late in the game up by that much anyway. If they did that I have to really wonder why? It makes absolutely no sense. Was there something that happened earlier in the game that caused a rift or something that we don't know about. I know Central onside kicks A LOT but why do that when you are up that big and more importantly that late in the game?
 
Central onside kicked because Kee High was ridiculously dirty on the field. Late hits, twisting ankles under the pile, pulling on facemasks, etc. Central was not going to play bad between whistles like them so they instead chose to punish Kee during each play. Everything was totally legal, and the man that was injured during that play was just hit in the wrong way. Nothing about Fitzgerald's hit looked unusual or even violent. It looked like any old normal hit.
 
The onside kick Elkader executed was 10:30 left in the fourth quarter as well, not 2 minutes like was said before. It's 8-man, 46 points is a lot but not impossible. Elkader almost lost to Tripoli week 9 last year after being up 38-0 at the half. Ending score was 46-38 Central.
 
So to clarify Central was up by 46 with 10:30 left in the game and on side kicked? If that is the case I am not buying what you are selling about the lead not being safe. Central is just too of good of team. As for the other things, I cannot speak what happened on the field since I was not there. I have watched Kee and Central and both seemed to be clean hard hitting teams. Obviously I am not in and on the piles to know what all the extra curricular activity that might have gone on. I have no dog in this fight and was not at the game. If Kee was doing as you said that is not appropriate. The old saying goes talk with your pads, play with your heart. I can say I am not a big fan of any team that onside kicks as much as Central does. If it works, great if it does not, you are putting some pretty good pressure on your defense.
 
So Central doesn't have the confidence in themselves and thought Kee was going to score 7+ touchdowns in 10 minutes? Play the game right. Kick it and have some faith in your top 10 team defense. As for the dirty play, you're delusional man. It's clear on tape Fitzgerald's hit was after the whistle. Classless to say the least and that footage might comde back to haunt him and Elkader.
 
Kee highs play was what was classless. Under the pile, after the whistle stuff is just poor sportsmanship by a team that's losing. Fitzgerald's hit was completly legal and if the kid would've kept his head up on the hit he would've been fine. Are you wishing that the central team and Fitzgerald get hurt?
 
Let's call a spade a spade; whatever the reason for the play call, we all know one thing... It wasn't to protect the lead.
 
My two cents and I have no horse in this race:

1. The onside that late is pretty unethical.

2. Any team/player, no matter the score, should always be ready for anything. This would include an onside kick with 10 minutes left and a 40 something point lead.

3. I've been watching Kee High for the last 30 some years. All the way from little league to high school, they are the worst sports I have witnessed. Parents and players are always berating officials. Players are constantly yelling at the opposing team on the field/court/from the dugout. It seems to be a learned behavior and there is no end in sight.

Here's to hoping if these two teams do meet up again, it's well played and done within the rules.
 
Can't wait to see how Elkader acts when they are playing from behind if that's how they act when they are ahead. As far as I'm concerned every school has "those parents"...Elkader has been doing the on-side kick thing all season no matter the score. It's pathetic and so is their 8-0 record. Play the game the way it's to be played. I'm done.
 
So, I am a Mormon Trail alum. I have been looking at the 13 point tiebreaker and I think it is entirely possible that Twin Cedars could trump MT for the 4th spot if TC beats Harmony by more than 13 (nearly assured as Harmony is winless and has not played anyone within 13 points) and if MT loses by 13 or more to Melcher-Dallas. Perhaps I am looking at this wrong and I would love to have someone tell me what they think. The 3 way tiebreaker is confusing since MT beat Wayne, Wayne beat TC and TC beat MT.

Also, If MT can beat Melcher (this is at MT) on Friday I believe they will lock up 2nd in the district. Probably not likely but still in play.

As of now Wayne has a total of 28 in the tiebreaker. I see them losing by more than 13 at Lamoni to end up at 15.
MT has 25. If they lose by 13 or more to MD they would end up at 12. Obviously losing by anything less than 13 is very beneficial to MT.
TC has -1. With the expected easy win over a bad Harmony team this gets them to 12.

So if MT can lose by 10 or less to Melcher they should be in line for 3rd because of the win over Wayne. Lose by 11 or 12 and they should get 4th place over TC based on the 13 point rule. Beat Melcher and it's 2nd. And if Wayne beats Lamoni MT is 5th based on the head to head with TC.

Any thoughts as to whether I have this right or not? I'd love to hear about it if I figured this wrong because it's likely I have.

Thanks.

This post was edited on 10/20 9:52 PM by egunzy
 
You are right on the point deal. But if Wayne loses by 13 which they should and Mormon loses by over 13 Wayne is the 3. Reason is the 3 way tie breaker comes into play since twin cedars now is tied. So based on what I've read in state manual it determines it all the way out. Wayne has best ratio and then it goes to next team. I thought maybe when you got the winner of the tie breaker it becomes a head to head deal but based on what you said if MT and TC tie with 12 points it comes down to head to head after that I believe so makes TC in. That is how I took it in states wording.
 
Ok, I appreciate the feedback. Best option for MT obviously is to win and finish 2nd in the district. But if they can play Melcher close they can still qualify. This would be the first time in school history making the playoffs if they qualify. Last week at TC their QB/best defensive player was out because of a targeting penalty against Harmony.

This post was edited on 10/20 10:43 PM by egunzy

This post was edited on 10/20 10:44 PM by egunzy
 
It appears that Wayne would have third wrapped up even if they lose by 13, That would leave them with a point diff. of 2.14. Then if Mormon Trail would lose by 13 and Twin Cedar would win by 13. They would both have 1.71 point diff. Then I believe that they go back to head to head. So it looks like Mormon Trail should be in @ 4.
 
If Wayne loses by more than 13 I think MT could catch them in the tiebreaker if they lose by 10 or less.

If TC wins by 13 and MT loses by 13 you're right, they will tie. But TC beat MT last week so they would get the 4th spot.

MT just needs to win at home against Melcher to make sure they qualify. They get 2nd in the district if they can do that. The last Friday in District 6 should be interesting.
 
I have to agree. Central is a very good team that does not need an onside kick that late in the ball game to protect it's lead. They have been consistent on-side kicking all year long. If the onside kick works their offense is set up very nicely, if not they trust their defense to get a stop. I just cannot bite off on the "protecting a lead" thing. If they were worried about that, with the defense they have, kick it deep and get a stop. Personally I am not a fan of an on-side kick. Too many bad things can happen when teams do it. I am no fool, I get there are times teams have to do it, but to do it the majority of the game is kind of a head-scratcher in my opinion.
 
love the opinions gonornse and craignews. As people kee and central are biased to their side of course. As a central rooter I see their side and understand why they onside kick. I have been here for 12 years and they have always done it. I am not a fan also and agree that wasn't necessarily the best time to do it. Frustration sometimes brings out not the best results.
 
If Kee players were not handling themselves better then other measures could/should have been used to take care of that. Again I was not at the game but if things were as bad as stated, why were the officials not alerted and/or not take notice of that behavior. putt4 ough you are correct, I am neither a Kee fan or Central fan. I have watched both teams play,both teams' coaches and players seem to handle themselves respectfully throughout the games I watched. The last thing anyone wants is for a student-athlete to get hurt in any type of contest.
 
CraigsNews...Really? As a Kee High alum I would love to hear some stories that make you think Kee is "the worst". You're obviously from the area, and you must've been forced to watch them for 30 some years? Otherwise if their sportsmanship is that bad, why watch for that long? Sounds to me like this is all about what you've seen in baseball. And by that I mean you've watched the Kee players chant from the dugout... That's a little different than "yelling at the opposing team".

As for the berating of officials...I haven't seen any berating that wasn't deserved. Sure there are times in close games when people yell out things to the ref, but I'd love to know of a school that has zero fans like that. Must be your horse's school...
 
Ok, here are my stories.

I played against Kee High in the 80s in football, basketball, and baseball. The players and parents never shut up, no matter the sport. They got 7 personal fouls in one football game. 3 dads were kicked out of the stands of a baseball game. They attempted to turn basketball games into rugby. Technicals were the norm.

I then coached my own kids in little league baseball/softball/basketball vs. Kee High. The kids aren't usually too bad at that age, but the parents were beyond terrible. Every call that doesn't go their way is disputed: LOUDLY. They care not what they say or whom is hearing them.

I then watched my kids play varsity sports vs. Kee. The tackle basketball is ridiculous. It's OK that you're not good, but why try to hurt players? Then, when any sort of action that can be deemed as even close to retaliatory occurs, the crowd erupts at the officials and demands that people be kicked out.

Maybe this only occurred when I played, coached, or watched???

Now, I see anonymous message board "threats" towards Central should Kee and them meet again; nothing's changed. No one likes to play Kee, and it's not because they are good.

This post was edited on 10/22 11:04 PM by CraigsNews
 
Ok I read the 80s and stopped right there...you don't think crap like that has happened anywhere else? I bet your team never got a single technical foul. To put this in the nicest way, sounds to me like your teams have lost quite a bit to Kee, and you had to focus on what parents were doing, what fouls were being committed, etc only to make yourself feel better. I really am curious to know what school you are from and coached, because I bet I can pull a few stories out of my a** too.

I don't believe those were threats if they were to play again. If it's what I think it means, the parents of the kid rushed to the hospital in a c-collar and backboard were going to follow up with the IAHSAA and Elkader administration. Funny that you say they aren't very good, yet seem to be the best 1A team in their conference in about every sport. Maybe not at basketball, but everything else. I hope you're from Sumner Fred or something...otherwise you're the pot calling the kettle black, buddy.
 
hehe, I don't really remember kee being good at anything other than baseball, and haven't been very good at that lately either.
 
Funny Kee seems to beat Elkader out of every sport when it comes to tournament play.. This is your first 'good' year at football in a few years. You're out shined by Clayton Ridge's athletes in baseball. And basketball....well... All I'll say is Kee boys had three wins last year and one of them may have been against Elkader. It's not like our girls didn't just second at state in softball this past summer either...or just beat you guys in regional volleyball Tuesday.
 
"yet seem to be the best 1a team in their conference in about every sport" is what you said. That was my reply. Yep your girls should be very good for some years to come maybe. And you are correct about Elkader sports, minus cross country of course. Please what else is kee good at, wrestling.
 
Yeah I said with the exception of basketball. Other than that, that statement has stood true. I didn't know that they weren't very good at baseball anymore though... News to me. Sure they were 23-17 last season, but take a look at their schedule before knocking them. They spend their weekends at Don Bosco and Newman not at gimme tournaments like the rest of the conference. Jealousy sure is ugly!
 
Hawkeye I would probably just stop there, people like that (Craigsnews, putt4dough) are everywhere. A good comparison..Even being from a "bigger" school than Newman, everyone hated playing them. If you would ask me why we hated playing them I could make a few things up, but ultimately it was because I wanted what they had/have: A consistently successful program. They aren't really good at anything else either, but people will always hate. I still love to hate them sometimes.
 
Craigsnews. The 80's. Really you have been bearing that cross since then? Good for you that your football team has finally gotten thier beatdown on the hawks and you can lay that cross down after all these years. Good luck in the post season because you know as well as everyone else that it is a rare thing that these kids get to go to the big show.
 
if you read my posts I'm not hating or jealous. Stated many positives about kee just don't agree with some of yours. Dont see why that is a bad thing. I look for facts and try to state facts. Hope you win tonite. Beat midland.
 
Originally posted by lalnx:
Craigsnews. The 80's. Really you have been bearing that cross since then? Good for you that your football team has finally gotten thier beatdown on the hawks and you can lay that cross down after all these years. Good luck in the post season because you know as well as everyone else that it is a rare thing that these kids get to go to the big show.
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Read all of my posts. I played in the late 80s. My children, if you can do the math, played little league and varsity sports between about 2000 and 2013. I have nothing to do with Central. They are not my team and never have been.

I also stated that the Elkader onside that late, with that big of a lead, was unethical.

It is also my belief that Kee's fans and players have been "unruly" for some time. I was then asked to give examples, which I did. I have no cross to bear. I simply stated what I have seen and heard for years from this fanbase.

I am a supporter of any school in the Upper Iowa conference and hope they all have success, but no, have never been a fan of several facets of the Kee High teams. I hope they do well and represent the UIC for years to come!
 
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