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I think Illinois has a deal where if you win two in a row you move up a class. That would be interesting. Although GC won one in each class they would have to win this year to have two in a row. It’s interesting how teams suddenly find success and then Dominate for a bit. Some secret sauce or coaching?
Historically if it is a private school it is about recruiting and unfair advantages, with public schools it is generally ignoring the impact of open enrollment and the actual recruiting that goes on.
Usually the reality is a combination of talented kids working hard and getting good coaching.
Starts at the bottom. Having the HS staff involved at the younger ages helps. Parent support is key. And of course having good athletes helps. Consistency is another key.
You will see some immediate growth. But, it may take some time. There are some high school ages kids making moves. But, I believe the real growth so far has been at the Elementary level, which will take some time to hit the BEDS counts.
But, the vouchers should also help to bring up that free/reduced lunch rate at private schools to offset some growth.
Because the state thought that was the key to parity. As SEP and Grundy go for their fourth and third straight titles.
But, the vouchers should also help to bring up that free/reduced lunch rate at private schools to offset some growth.
Because the state thought that was the key to parity. As SEP and Grundy go for their fourth and third straight titles.
I looked back on my calendar in my phone. BEDs #'s with FRL percentages were released on March 13th of 2023, that's when everyone knew what class they were in. Then I think districts came out a couple weeks later. I believe the state then gave schools a couple weeks to send in their non-district priority lists, and schedules came out a few weeks after that.
So if the state goes by a similar timeline, I'd expect classifications out in early March 2025, districts out in mid-late March, and schedules out in mid April.
So if the state goes by a similar timeline, I'd expect classifications out in early March 2025, districts out in mid-late March, and schedules out in mid April.
Vouchers will not raise the F/R lunch in Private schools any significant amount. The private schools in my area raised tuition by $6000 per year. Still out of reach for those on free and reduces lunch w/o "Scholarships". The schools in my area also did not increase enrollment. They kept a cap on it. They just wanted the wealth transfer.
5a does have the competitive balance aspect to their scheduling hence SEP 4 losses
Which school are you referring to that raised tuition by $6k? And, did not see an increase in enrollment?
Des Moines Area, Marshalltown and other areas. Summit schools in Cedar rapids increased their tuition from 6995 to 14350. Many of the K-8 Privates kept enrollment numbers the same so they didn't have to hire more staff. They used it as a way to make their salaries/benefits more competitive with public. Plus, if you raise enrollment with out more hires you lose one of the top selling factors of low student to teacher ratio. They do so to raise capital for works projects like buying/building new schools. So there won't be as large of a gain in the elementary as you can imagine let alone any growth of F/R lunch. tuition Hike.
No not obscuring, you were saying most of the growth is in the elementary and I said that it wasn't as much as you thought. You're just deflecting because it doesn't fit your narrative that the vouchers are helping those who previously weren't able to go to a private school. Here is another school Marshalltown raising tuition. Most schools are at least raising to the state assistance levels. And you won't see a significant number of Free and Reduced or sped kids.
Also, do you think those private school elementary kids at Summit go to Jefferson? I think not. Another CR school, Issac Newton Academy goes to Xavier for sports as well.
There are a lot more Private schools that don't directly feed into a high school but at the same time they do. I don't see people sending students to private elementary but moving them to public for high school
How do people think the voucher program won't increase free and reduced lunch numbers, when the only eligible families so far, have been those on an income restriction?
Eligibility for Iowa's private school vouchers, also known as the education savings account (ESA) program, depends on the school year:
Eligibility for Iowa's private school vouchers, also known as the education savings account (ESA) program, depends on the school year:
- 2023-2024: Students who attended a private school and had a family income at or below 300% of the federal poverty level
- That's 90,000 for a family of four in 2023-24)
- That's 90,000 for a family of four in 2023-24)
- 2024-2025: Students who used the program in 2023-2024, current public school students, new kindergarteners, and current private school students from families with a household income at or below 400% of the federal poverty level
- That's 124,800 for a family of four in 2023-24)
- 2025-2026: All students in Iowa, regardless of family income
The current rate federal poverty level is 93,600 for a family of 4 as you say. That is nowhere near free and reduced rates. to qualify for free and reduced a family of 4 needs to make less than/equal to 57,720. That's a large gap. Also, those students need to find transportation. I don't know about you but that takes a significant amount of money/time to have a car and transport a kid a long way. I just don't think you are going to see a bump in Free and Reduced numbers
As for the Marshalltown link, The catholic school in Marshalltown is raising tuition from roughly 3,000 to 7,200 to match the fund and they are putting a cap on enrollment. It was just an example, I will stop embedding it in the text.
As for the Marshalltown link, The catholic school in Marshalltown is raising tuition from roughly 3,000 to 7,200 to match the fund and they are putting a cap on enrollment. It was just an example, I will stop embedding it in the text.
Prior to this program people did indeed switch schools after elementary. My sons class went from 64 to 48 in junior high. Increased extra curricular activities, academic programs and free had something to do with it
Only in 8 Man do thy complain about that as thats why they want 2 classes of 8 man witch is just dumb.
Well...or if it's a private school. Otherwise..nothing to see here...what a joke.
Talk about putting their thumb on the scale...
Coaches association has been talking about that for 2 years not a lot of traction. Drop Class A and have two divisions of 8 Man. That means a lot bigger schools will be in 8 man. Not sure some will like that
How about not drop Class A for another 8 man, that would be pretty dumb. I will almost guarantee that most of the Class A schools will elect to play in Class 1a if that were to happen.
