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I have heard that Marv Cook is set to coach at Iowa City West next year. This comes from a reliable source.

Will be interesting to see what comes of this. I would assume most of the staff would follow him.
 
No-brainer in my book- any school that had an opening would be crazy to not call him first- so many positives to having a coach like him in your system.
 
Is the Iowa City West coach leaving? This is his first or second year on the job. He had a good team, made it to the quarterfinals of the playoffs by upsetting Lin Mar.

Big Move for Cook if he does. Maybe wants to move up and get into the college ranks some day.
 
Does he have any younger kids? With Drew going to Iowa, sure, he could make the home games by still coaching Friday nights, but would he be able to get to the away games? Assuming Drew won't play for a year or two, why start a new job for only a year or two? Just thinking out loud, those close to the situation can fill me in.
 
I'm sure if he went to West his kid would play there too assuming he has another one.
 
he has a 6th grade boy - lefty, very athletic, I've seen him on the basketball circuit... believe he plays Barnstormers.
Marv also has a Fresh or Soph daughter that transferred to West for 2014/15.
 
Originally posted by cyard31:
he has a 6th grade boy - lefty, very athletic, I've seen him on the basketball circuit... believe he plays Barnstormers.
Marv also has a Fresh or Soph daughter that transferred to West for 2014/15.
makes sense given the family lives within easy walking distance from West.

Best of luck to the ol WB Bear #12
 
You are in better shape than I am, that wouldn't be an easy walk on a -10 degree day
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What will the boundaries look like when they open up the North Liberty high school, will it be a lot of West kids going there or a mix of the two?
 
That would be a silly move in my opinion. Regina has a better football program, and a move to IC West would be a little bit of a downgrade from where he is currently at. If he ultimately wants to coach at the college level, he has the resume to do it now. No need to move to West High, especially with the school splitting with the building of Liberty High.
 
PNation,
Are you really trying to tell us 4A is better competition than 1A???? Really??? I bet you think D1 college is better than 4A high school. Then you are going to try and convince us that Professional is better than D1. Cmon man. Duh. That being said, that doesn't make the "program" better.
 
Originally posted by iowafootballd5:
I have heard that Marv Cook is set to coach at Iowa City West next year. This comes from a reliable source.

Will be interesting to see what comes of this. I would assume most of the staff would follow him.
He better hope so
 
Originally posted by EpenesaEpenesa:
Originally posted by iowafootballd5:
I have heard that Marv Cook is set to coach at Iowa City West next year. This comes from a reliable source.

Will be interesting to see what comes of this. I would assume most of the staff would follow him.
He better hope so
Coach Dumont wouldn't be going along, I'd wager.

He is a great coach and a good guy
 
Originally posted by PNation:
Regina wins more against poorer competition but West has the better program. 4A>1A
I would agree that 4A overall is more competitive than 1A, but Regina would be at or near that top in 4A. The West football team is not better than the Regina football team.
 
Im sorry but comparing 1A to 4A is like comparing Apples to Oranges.

4A overall is a better quality of football on the whole. The teams are better, sharper, and more fundamentally sound. The reason is because they have one way players. They platoon and it keeps their players fresh. 1A you have guys playing both ways and its usually guys who never step off the field. The top 10 in 4A are pretty tough and I would bet that most of those teams could go into Regina and get a Win. Outside of the top 10, then you are stretching it a bit. I think Regina could hang with those teams, but a any of the top 10 would be tough.


The deal is in 4A they have the quality of linemen who can withstand Regina's Physicality. Most teams Regina lines up against are much smaller than them, and its a heyday for their line. 4A lines are pretty big and athletic. They also go 1 way, which helps their conditioning.

I would hope Regina next times districts are released try and get a game against a Bett, CR Wash, or Cedar Falls. But I know those schools won't play them because what's it in for them. I mean playing a little 1A school does nothing for the big boys of 4A. Xavier gave Regina the chance this year and Regina beat them. I'll admit Xavier didn't look too strong last night vs Pella. So I don't know if that is a big win for Regina or not.
 
Some very good points, might not agree on the fundamental part of the game. I know my son from tiny little Regina went to college and had to teach footwork to their offensive lineman while playing defensive line and had to teach reads and hand fighting to some of these kids from mighty 4A schools. The depth through an entire season would make a difference, there is just more players to select from.
 
Originally posted by HaydenHawk8:
Im sorry but comparing 1A to 4A is like comparing Apples to Oranges.

4A overall is a better quality of football on the whole. The teams are better, sharper, and more fundamentally sound. The reason is because they have one way players. They platoon and it keeps their players fresh. 1A you have guys playing both ways and its usually guys who never step off the field. The top 10 in 4A are pretty tough and I would bet that most of those teams could go into Regina and get a Win. Outside of the top 10, then you are stretching it a bit. I think Regina could hang with those teams, but a any of the top 10 would be tough.


The deal is in 4A they have the quality of linemen who can withstand Regina's Physicality. Most teams Regina lines up against are much smaller than them, and its a heyday for their line. 4A lines are pretty big and athletic. They also go 1 way, which helps their conditioning.

I would hope Regina next times districts are released try and get a game against a Bett, CR Wash, or Cedar Falls. But I know those schools won't play them because what's it in for them. I mean playing a little 1A school does nothing for the big boys of 4A. Xavier gave Regina the chance this year and Regina beat them. I'll admit Xavier didn't look too strong last night vs Pella. So I don't know if that is a big win for Regina or not.
Xavier had some key injuries that really hurt them last night against Pella. Injuries that they didn't have when they played Regina. I think it would have been a much better game if Xavier had been healthy. With that said, Pella is an outstanding team and I don't want to take away any credit from them.

Like you said, I hope to see a Regina vs. Bettendorf, Dowling, or Valley game next year, but I agree that most of those teams would not agree to play that type of game. It's a shame because I think it would be very interesting to watch.
 
The games next year are already set I believe, flipping locations of the games this year. I know that Bettendorf has played Regina at the Freshman level and they have played City and West at lower levels.
 
Originally posted by BigDan21:






Originally posted by HaydenHawk8:
Im sorry but comparing 1A to 4A is like comparing Apples to Oranges.

4A overall is a better quality of football on the whole. The teams are better, sharper, and more fundamentally sound. The reason is because they have one way players. They platoon and it keeps their players fresh. 1A you have guys playing both ways and its usually guys who never step off the field. The top 10 in 4A are pretty tough and I would bet that most of those teams could go into Regina and get a Win. Outside of the top 10, then you are stretching it a bit. I think Regina could hang with those teams, but a any of the top 10 would be tough.


The deal is in 4A they have the quality of linemen who can withstand Regina's Physicality. Most teams Regina lines up against are much smaller than them, and its a heyday for their line. 4A lines are pretty big and athletic. They also go 1 way, which helps their conditioning.

I would hope Regina next times districts are released try and get a game against a Bett, CR Wash, or Cedar Falls. But I know those schools won't play them because what's it in for them. I mean playing a little 1A school does nothing for the big boys of 4A. Xavier gave Regina the chance this year and Regina beat them. I'll admit Xavier didn't look too strong last night vs Pella. So I don't know if that is a big win for Regina or not.
Xavier had some key injuries that really hurt them last night against Pella. Injuries that they didn't have when they played Regina. I think it would have been a much better game if Xavier had been healthy. With that said, Pella is an outstanding team and I don't want to take away any credit from them.

Like you said, I hope to see a Regina vs. Bettendorf, Dowling, or Valley game next year, but I agree that most of those teams would not agree to play that type of game. It's a shame because I think it would be very interesting to watch.
Dowling would likely roll Regina this season. Just because they both beat Xavier by similar scores doesn't mean much. Dowling played them the first game of the season and still only allowed 120 total yards of offense. Xavier's QB only had a 31.2 QB rating against Dowling and had 116 vs Regina. Xavier was not a great team this year and it wasn't simply due to injuries against Pella. They got beat by a mediocre Epworth team earlier in the season and look what Solon and West Delaware did to Epworth.
This post was edited on 11/14 5:17 PM by CP84
 
Originally posted by BigDan21:





Originally posted by HaydenHawk8:
Im sorry but comparing 1A to 4A is like comparing Apples to Oranges.

4A overall is a better quality of football on the whole. The teams are better, sharper, and more fundamentally sound. The reason is because they have one way players. They platoon and it keeps their players fresh. 1A you have guys playing both ways and its usually guys who never step off the field. The top 10 in 4A are pretty tough and I would bet that most of those teams could go into Regina and get a Win. Outside of the top 10, then you are stretching it a bit. I think Regina could hang with those teams, but a any of the top 10 would be tough.


The deal is in 4A they have the quality of linemen who can withstand Regina's Physicality. Most teams Regina lines up against are much smaller than them, and its a heyday for their line. 4A lines are pretty big and athletic. They also go 1 way, which helps their conditioning.

I would hope Regina next times districts are released try and get a game against a Bett, CR Wash, or Cedar Falls. But I know those schools won't play them because what's it in for them. I mean playing a little 1A school does nothing for the big boys of 4A. Xavier gave Regina the chance this year and Regina beat them. I'll admit Xavier didn't look too strong last night vs Pella. So I don't know if that is a big win for Regina or not.
Xavier had some key injuries that really hurt them last night against Pella. Injuries that they didn't have when they played Regina. I think it would have been a much better game if Xavier had been healthy. With that said, Pella is an outstanding team and I don't want to take away any credit from them.

Like you said, I hope to see a Regina vs. Bettendorf, Dowling, or Valley game next year, but I agree that most of those teams would not agree to play that type of game. It's a shame because I think it would be very interesting to watch.
No it wouldn't. I give them credit for beating Xavier, but that Xavier team is a shell of what they have been. They lost to Western Dubuque for god sakes
 
Originally posted by EpenesaEpenesa:

Originally posted by BigDan21:






Originally posted by HaydenHawk8:
Im sorry but comparing 1A to 4A is like comparing Apples to Oranges.

4A overall is a better quality of football on the whole. The teams are better, sharper, and more fundamentally sound. The reason is because they have one way players. They platoon and it keeps their players fresh. 1A you have guys playing both ways and its usually guys who never step off the field. The top 10 in 4A are pretty tough and I would bet that most of those teams could go into Regina and get a Win. Outside of the top 10, then you are stretching it a bit. I think Regina could hang with those teams, but a any of the top 10 would be tough.


The deal is in 4A they have the quality of linemen who can withstand Regina's Physicality. Most teams Regina lines up against are much smaller than them, and its a heyday for their line. 4A lines are pretty big and athletic. They also go 1 way, which helps their conditioning.

I would hope Regina next times districts are released try and get a game against a Bett, CR Wash, or Cedar Falls. But I know those schools won't play them because what's it in for them. I mean playing a little 1A school does nothing for the big boys of 4A. Xavier gave Regina the chance this year and Regina beat them. I'll admit Xavier didn't look too strong last night vs Pella. So I don't know if that is a big win for Regina or not.
Xavier had some key injuries that really hurt them last night against Pella. Injuries that they didn't have when they played Regina. I think it would have been a much better game if Xavier had been healthy. With that said, Pella is an outstanding team and I don't want to take away any credit from them.

Like you said, I hope to see a Regina vs. Bettendorf, Dowling, or Valley game next year, but I agree that most of those teams would not agree to play that type of game. It's a shame because I think it would be very interesting to watch.
No it wouldn't. I give them credit for beating Xavier, but that Xavier team is a shell of what they have been. They lost to Western Dubuque for god sakes
Yeah they made it to the 3A semifinals and lost in a game with a roster saturated with key injuries that came at an unlucky time in the season. Sounds like a pretty terrible team and terrible year to me. Obviously any team that just makes it to the 3A semis is absolute dog crap.

If your so confident that Regina vs. a 4A power wouldn't be a good matchup, I would encourage you to look at the roster on a position by position basis. Show me anywhere on the field that Regina couldn't match up with, and I'll show you a pig that can fly.
 
Wait a minute, Xavier is a private school in a large metro area about 30 minutes from Iowa City, they don't belong to a school district, have no special needs program, very few reduced lunch kids AND were dropping from 4A to 3A, surprised they even had to play the season, should have just given them the trophy and saved all of these teams those 60 point beat downs in every game. I mean all of those things are such huge advantages it is automatic. At least that is what I have read at least.
 
Originally posted by BigDan21:
Originally posted by EpenesaEpenesa:

Originally posted by BigDan21:






Originally posted by HaydenHawk8:
Im sorry but comparing 1A to 4A is like comparing Apples to Oranges.

4A overall is a better quality of football on the whole. The teams are better, sharper, and more fundamentally sound. The reason is because they have one way players. They platoon and it keeps their players fresh. 1A you have guys playing both ways and its usually guys who never step off the field. The top 10 in 4A are pretty tough and I would bet that most of those teams could go into Regina and get a Win. Outside of the top 10, then you are stretching it a bit. I think Regina could hang with those teams, but a any of the top 10 would be tough.


The deal is in 4A they have the quality of linemen who can withstand Regina's Physicality. Most teams Regina lines up against are much smaller than them, and its a heyday for their line. 4A lines are pretty big and athletic. They also go 1 way, which helps their conditioning.

I would hope Regina next times districts are released try and get a game against a Bett, CR Wash, or Cedar Falls. But I know those schools won't play them because what's it in for them. I mean playing a little 1A school does nothing for the big boys of 4A. Xavier gave Regina the chance this year and Regina beat them. I'll admit Xavier didn't look too strong last night vs Pella. So I don't know if that is a big win for Regina or not.
Xavier had some key injuries that really hurt them last night against Pella. Injuries that they didn't have when they played Regina. I think it would have been a much better game if Xavier had been healthy. With that said, Pella is an outstanding team and I don't want to take away any credit from them.

Like you said, I hope to see a Regina vs. Bettendorf, Dowling, or Valley game next year, but I agree that most of those teams would not agree to play that type of game. It's a shame because I think it would be very interesting to watch.
No it wouldn't. I give them credit for beating Xavier, but that Xavier team is a shell of what they have been. They lost to Western Dubuque for god sakes
Yeah they made it to the 3A semifinals and lost in a game with a roster saturated with key injuries that came at an unlucky time in the season. Sounds like a pretty terrible team and terrible year to me. Obviously any team that just makes it to the 3A semis is absolute dog crap.

If your so confident that Regina vs. a 4A power wouldn't be a good matchup, I would encourage you to look at the roster on a position by position basis. Show me anywhere on the field that Regina couldn't match up with, and I'll show you a pig that can fly.
There is a big leap from 3A to 4A. Bishop Heelen ran through 3A this year but lost to Sioux City East by 10. SC East got beat by Dowling 3-52 and Waukee 7-45.

As mentioned above, Xavier lost to a bad Western Dubuque team.

Regina also lost a tossup game with Solon. Solon is not a bad 3A team but they are no Dowling, CR Washington or Valley.

You have an inflated opinion of Regina if you think they are among the elite 4A teams. They might be in the top 15 in 4A but the top 5 would win 9 out of 10 games against them.
 
1) You can't take high school games that happen the first game of the season and compare them to games mid season or at the end of the season. Some teams make significant adjustments throughout the course of the season, even on a week by week basis. Regina is one of those teams. Even at the college level, remember the year Iowa almost lost to UNI, and then went on to win the Orange Bowl. This is even more true at the high school level than the college level.

2) You avoided my original challenge. If you're going to automatically write Regina off against a team like Bettendorf, show me a single spot on the field where they wouldn't match up. There isn't one.
 
Originally posted by BigDan21:

1) You can't take high school games that happen the first game of the season and compare them to games mid season or at the end of the season. Some teams make significant adjustments throughout the course of the season, even on a week by week basis. Regina is one of those teams. Even at the college level, remember the year Iowa almost lost to UNI, and then went on to win the Orange Bowl. This is even more true at the high school level than the college level.

2) You avoided my original challenge. If you're going to automatically write Regina off against a team like Bettendorf, show me a single spot on the field where they wouldn't match up. There isn't one.

There is more than enough anectdotal evidence to draw a reasonable conclusion. I don't care if Heelan played SC East in game one. They got handled fairly easily and East is a mediocre 4A team. Xavier's loss to Epworth was not a first game of the season. That game made a lot of people question if Xavier was really that good.

To say they would hang with a team like Dowling is laughable. Look what Dowling is doing to a rock solid Waukee right now.

Regina has some good players especially for a 1A team. Cook, Brinkman, Adams, Hunter and Phillips could all play for a lot of 4A teams but they don't have the depth at every position to come close to the big 5 in 4A. I think the two top 3A teams would beat Regina. You can excuse Xavier's performance to a couple key injuries but those injuries wouldn't even come close to making a difference. Xavier had less than 60 total yards of offense. If Pella and Regina played, I think the Dutch line would be making pancakes instead of letters.

There's no point in walking through an exercise in comparing every position. The 4A teams are playing significantly better competition every week and you would just overvalue each Regina player based on their stats playing a fairly weak schedule this season outside of the two 3A teams.
 
Originally posted by CP84:

Originally posted by BigDan21:

1) You can't take high school games that happen the first game of the season and compare them to games mid season or at the end of the season. Some teams make significant adjustments throughout the course of the season, even on a week by week basis. Regina is one of those teams. Even at the college level, remember the year Iowa almost lost to UNI, and then went on to win the Orange Bowl. This is even more true at the high school level than the college level.

2) You avoided my original challenge. If you're going to automatically write Regina off against a team like Bettendorf, show me a single spot on the field where they wouldn't match up. There isn't one.

There is more than enough anectdotal evidence to draw a reasonable conclusion. I don't care if Heelan played SC East in game one. They got handled fairly easily and East is a mediocre 4A team. Xavier's loss to Epworth was not a first game of the season. That game made a lot of people question if Xavier was really that good.

To say they would hang with a team like Dowling is laughable. Look what Dowling is doing to a rock solid Waukee right now.

Regina has some good players especially for a 1A team. Cook, Brinkman, Adams, Hunter and Phillips could all play for a lot of 4A teams but they don't have the depth at every position to come close to the big 5 in 4A. I think the two top 3A teams would beat Regina. You can excuse Xavier's performance to a couple key injuries but those injuries wouldn't even come close to making a difference. Xavier had less than 60 total yards of offense. If Pella and Regina played, I think the Dutch line would be making pancakes instead of letters.

There's no point in walking through an exercise in comparing every position. The 4A teams are playing significantly better competition every week and you would just overvalue each Regina player based on their stats playing a fairly weak schedule this season outside of the two 3A teams.
Ok I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. Until one of these schools has the guts to accept Regina's offer to play we'll never know what the outcome would be.
 
Originally posted by BigDan21:
Originally posted by CP84:

Originally posted by BigDan21:

1) You can't take high school games that happen the first game of the season and compare them to games mid season or at the end of the season. Some teams make significant adjustments throughout the course of the season, even on a week by week basis. Regina is one of those teams. Even at the college level, remember the year Iowa almost lost to UNI, and then went on to win the Orange Bowl. This is even more true at the high school level than the college level.

2) You avoided my original challenge. If you're going to automatically write Regina off against a team like Bettendorf, show me a single spot on the field where they wouldn't match up. There isn't one.

There is more than enough anectdotal evidence to draw a reasonable conclusion. I don't care if Heelan played SC East in game one. They got handled fairly easily and East is a mediocre 4A team. Xavier's loss to Epworth was not a first game of the season. That game made a lot of people question if Xavier was really that good.

To say they would hang with a team like Dowling is laughable. Look what Dowling is doing to a rock solid Waukee right now.

Regina has some good players especially for a 1A team. Cook, Brinkman, Adams, Hunter and Phillips could all play for a lot of 4A teams but they don't have the depth at every position to come close to the big 5 in 4A. I think the two top 3A teams would beat Regina. You can excuse Xavier's performance to a couple key injuries but those injuries wouldn't even come close to making a difference. Xavier had less than 60 total yards of offense. If Pella and Regina played, I think the Dutch line would be making pancakes instead of letters.

There's no point in walking through an exercise in comparing every position. The 4A teams are playing significantly better competition every week and you would just overvalue each Regina player based on their stats playing a fairly weak schedule this season outside of the two 3A teams.
Ok I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. Until one of these schools has the guts to accept Regina's offer to play we'll never know what the outcome would be.
Might as well call IC Regina the Boise State of Iowa high school football. Seems Boise couldn't catch a break for years, they always were undefeated but no one wanted them to play for the national title because of their conference.

IC Regina plays in 1A which is where they are slotted because of enrollment. I have no problem with it, its what the state says. if it was a problem the state would take care of it, because judging by the last count, there are a HELL of a lot more public schools than Private schools.

If next weekend the Private schools win 3 out 5 classes, then maybe the state needs to think of a multiplier or something else to even the playing field. I don't know the answer, but there are a lot of people upset by how much success the private schools are having and I don't get it. If you don't like it, beat them. Get better and beat them. Plain and simple.
 
Beat them? How? It's unfair, get better? Why should we want that, bring others down, more ribbons, more trophys....
 
Originally posted by cidhawkeye:
Beat them? How? (Score more points....or politely ask them to forfeit.) It's unfair (only in certain circles), get better? Why should we want that (Not Regina anyways...they're not wanting you guys to get any better. I don't even want to know what that would look like.
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)[/B], bring others down (Technically, what would happen is that if you brought someone else down....or Regina moved up....someone or multiple someones would most likely take their place, so in that case the following...., more ribbons, more trophys....(would apply, but just for more than the same one team winning championships each year....that's all.)

(Unless you were reiterating that annoyingly dull and over-exaggerated argument about "celebrating" mediocrity. They'd give out more ribbons and trophys if they included more teams in the playoffs, which won't happen for the simple fact that the playoffs would take way too long, particularly in consideration to the weather with football being an outdoor sport. My guess is practices for the semifinalists were mostly spent indoors this week due to the cold and snow. Plus there's all of next week as well. That's where it might pay off for some of the schools who have some kind of an indoor facility available to practice as opposed to just their school's gym...though I'm just sayin.)
 
Originally posted by cidhawkeye:
there is just more players to select from.
Correct. Thats exactly why A, 1a and 2a pvt schools located in 3a and 4a sized towns have a huge advantage playing against a,1a and 2a publics
 
Originally posted by HaydenHawk8:

Originally posted by BigDan21:

Originally posted by CP84:


Originally posted by BigDan21:

1) You can't take high school games that happen the first game of the season and compare them to games mid season or at the end of the season. Some teams make significant adjustments throughout the course of the season, even on a week by week basis. Regina is one of those teams. Even at the college level, remember the year Iowa almost lost to UNI, and then went on to win the Orange Bowl. This is even more true at the high school level than the college level.

2) You avoided my original challenge. If you're going to automatically write Regina off against a team like Bettendorf, show me a single spot on the field where they wouldn't match up. There isn't one.

There is more than enough anectdotal evidence to draw a reasonable conclusion. I don't care if Heelan played SC East in game one. They got handled fairly easily and East is a mediocre 4A team. Xavier's loss to Epworth was not a first game of the season. That game made a lot of people question if Xavier was really that good.

To say they would hang with a team like Dowling is laughable. Look what Dowling is doing to a rock solid Waukee right now.

Regina has some good players especially for a 1A team. Cook, Brinkman, Adams, Hunter and Phillips could all play for a lot of 4A teams but they don't have the depth at every position to come close to the big 5 in 4A. I think the two top 3A teams would beat Regina. You can excuse Xavier's performance to a couple key injuries but those injuries wouldn't even come close to making a difference. Xavier had less than 60 total yards of offense. If Pella and Regina played, I think the Dutch line would be making pancakes instead of letters.

There's no point in walking through an exercise in comparing every position. The 4A teams are playing significantly better competition every week and you would just overvalue each Regina player based on their stats playing a fairly weak schedule this season outside of the two 3A teams.
Ok I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. Until one of these schools has the guts to accept Regina's offer to play we'll never know what the outcome would be.
Might as well call IC Regina the Boise State of Iowa high school football. Seems Boise couldn't catch a break for years, they always were undefeated but no one wanted them to play for the national title because of their conference.

IC Regina plays in 1A which is where they are slotted because of enrollment. I have no problem with it, its what the state says. if it was a problem the state would take care of it, because judging by the last count, there are a HELL of a lot more public schools than Private schools.

If next weekend the Private schools win 3 out 5 classes, then maybe the state needs to think of a multiplier or something else to even the playing field. I don't know the answer, but there are a lot of people upset by how much success the private schools are having and I don't get it. If you don't like it, beat them. Get better and beat them. Plain and simple.
There is 6 classes.....
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Originally posted by BigDan21:
Originally posted by CP84:

Originally posted by BigDan21:

1) You can't take high school games that happen the first game of the season and compare them to games mid season or at the end of the season. Some teams make significant adjustments throughout the course of the season, even on a week by week basis. Regina is one of those teams. Even at the college level, remember the year Iowa almost lost to UNI, and then went on to win the Orange Bowl. This is even more true at the high school level than the college level.

2) You avoided my original challenge. If you're going to automatically write Regina off against a team like Bettendorf, show me a single spot on the field where they wouldn't match up. There isn't one.

There is more than enough anectdotal evidence to draw a reasonable conclusion. I don't care if Heelan played SC East in game one. They got handled fairly easily and East is a mediocre 4A team. Xavier's loss to Epworth was not a first game of the season. That game made a lot of people question if Xavier was really that good.

To say they would hang with a team like Dowling is laughable. Look what Dowling is doing to a rock solid Waukee right now.

Regina has some good players especially for a 1A team. Cook, Brinkman, Adams, Hunter and Phillips could all play for a lot of 4A teams but they don't have the depth at every position to come close to the big 5 in 4A. I think the two top 3A teams would beat Regina. You can excuse Xavier's performance to a couple key injuries but those injuries wouldn't even come close to making a difference. Xavier had less than 60 total yards of offense. If Pella and Regina played, I think the Dutch line would be making pancakes instead of letters.

There's no point in walking through an exercise in comparing every position. The 4A teams are playing significantly better competition every week and you would just overvalue each Regina player based on their stats playing a fairly weak schedule this season outside of the two 3A teams.

Ok I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. Until one of these schools has the guts to accept Regina's offer to play we'll never know what the outcome would be.
Is this Regina's position or is this yours? All these big schools don't have the "guts" to play Regina? Regina matches up with Bettendorf at every position? If it is true and all this teams are scared of Regina and Regina would beat them, why wouldn't Regina play up 3 classes so these schools couldn't run and hide any more?

This post was edited on 11/17 4:29 PM by rkhemp
 
Originally posted by rkhemp:


Originally posted by BigDan21:

Originally posted by CP84:


Originally posted by BigDan21:

1) You can't take high school games that happen the first game of the season and compare them to games mid season or at the end of the season. Some teams make significant adjustments throughout the course of the season, even on a week by week basis. Regina is one of those teams. Even at the college level, remember the year Iowa almost lost to UNI, and then went on to win the Orange Bowl. This is even more true at the high school level than the college level.

2) You avoided my original challenge. If you're going to automatically write Regina off against a team like Bettendorf, show me a single spot on the field where they wouldn't match up. There isn't one.

There is more than enough anectdotal evidence to draw a reasonable conclusion. I don't care if Heelan played SC East in game one. They got handled fairly easily and East is a mediocre 4A team. Xavier's loss to Epworth was not a first game of the season. That game made a lot of people question if Xavier was really that good.

To say they would hang with a team like Dowling is laughable. Look what Dowling is doing to a rock solid Waukee right now.

Regina has some good players especially for a 1A team. Cook, Brinkman, Adams, Hunter and Phillips could all play for a lot of 4A teams but they don't have the depth at every position to come close to the big 5 in 4A. I think the two top 3A teams would beat Regina. You can excuse Xavier's performance to a couple key injuries but those injuries wouldn't even come close to making a difference. Xavier had less than 60 total yards of offense. If Pella and Regina played, I think the Dutch line would be making pancakes instead of letters.

There's no point in walking through an exercise in comparing every position. The 4A teams are playing significantly better competition every week and you would just overvalue each Regina player based on their stats playing a fairly weak schedule this season outside of the two 3A teams.

Ok I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. Until one of these schools has the guts to accept Regina's offer to play we'll never know what the outcome would be.
Is this Regina's position or is this yours? All these big schools don't have the "guts" to play Regina? Regina matches up with Bettendorf at every position? If it is true and all this teams are scared of Regina and Regina would beat them, why wouldn't Regina play up 3 classes so these schools couldn't run and hide any more?


This post was edited on 11/17 4:29 PM by rkhemp
I'm not speaking for Regina. I didn't go there, but I played against them and respect them. I do know that they try to schedule 4A opponents, but are turned away. So, I guess you could say it is their position in a way. And, yes, in my opinion they should be playing up. In 3A, possibly 4A depending on the year and what they feel their chances are at state on any given year. I know they graduate some major talent this year, but honestly I don't see their reign ending any time soon especially at 1A.
 
Originally posted by cidhawkeye:
Wait a minute, Xavier is a private school in a large metro area about 30 minutes from Iowa City, they don't belong to a school district, have no special needs program, very few reduced lunch kids AND were dropping from 4A to 3A, surprised they even had to play the season, should have just given them the trophy and saved all of these teams those 60 point beat downs in every game. I mean all of those things are such huge advantages it is automatic. At least that is what I have read at least.
Heelan did nearly the same thing their first year -2006- in 3A (only they didn't make the playoffs), then have made the championship game 6 times (in 8 years) since. As well have made the playoffs every year since their first year and have only lost to the state champion.

Why are you trying to revive a dead horse here CID?
 
Just trying to join the crowd that keeps bringing up the same things, again and again and again without much if any factual basis. I get tired of hearing the same crap so I figured I would just dredge up the doom and gloomers comments to show how wrong they were. I guess I have decided to become a follower.
 
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