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Football's equivalent of the Hot Stove League: projected new districts

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It's that magical time that only comes around every other year: "What will the new football districts look like?" We have several months (March) until the real districts are released the the IHSAA and almost as long (January) before the Iowa Department of education releases their enrollment data, but I thought I would try to keep the boards engaged by mocking up classes & districts based off grade 8-10 enrollment from the fall of 2012. That should give a good approximation of where this fall's 9-11 enrollment should stack up the schools. I will be posting each class projection on their own board until Luke consolidates everything to the off-season football board.



1 83 Clay Central-Everly
1 64 Harris-Lake Park
1 109 Kingsley-Pierson
1 102 Marcus-Meriden-Cleghorn
1 55 Remsen St Mary's
1 95 Remsen-Union
1 79 River Valley
1 43 Whiting

2 57 CAL, Latimer
2 76 Clarksville
2 107 Newell-Fonda
2 109 North Iowa
2 54 Northeast Hamilton
2 111 Northwood-Kensett
2 64 Riceville
2 103 West Bend-Mallard

3 113 Dunkerton
3 104 Edgewood-Colesburg
3 110 Gilbertville Don Bosco
3 80 Janesville
3 92 Kee, Lansing
3 110 Rockford
3 108 Tripoli
3 97 Turkey Valley

4 107 Central, Elkader
4 76 GMG, Garwin
4 72 HLV,Victor
4 100 Lynnville-Sully
4 47 Meskwaki Settlement School
4 115 Midland, Wyoming
4 96 Springville
4 72 West Central, Maynard

5 111 Danville
5 99 Lone Tree
5 80 Moravia
5 47 Seymour
5 66 Tri-County
5 95 Twin Cedars
5 107 WACO, Wayland
5 98 Winfield-Mount Union

6 80 Adair-Casey
6 93 Ankeny Christian/Iowa Christian
6 66 Grandview Park Baptist
6 60 Lamoni
6 55 Melcher-Dallas
6 59 Mormon Trail, Garden Grove
6 59 Murray
6 106 Wayne County

7 58 Ar-We-Va, Westside
7 100 Boyer Valley
7 78 Charter Oak-Ute
7 106 Coon Rapids-Bayard
7 117 Elk Horn-Kimballton/Exira
7 76 Glidden-Ralston
7 101 Guthrie Center
7 101 West Harrison

8 97 CAM, Anita
8 106 Essex/South Page
8 98 Fremont-Mills
8 86 Lenox
8 103 Nishnabotna
8 86 Sidney
8 44 Stanton
8 86 Woodbine
 
Good stuff. Is it confirmed that GMG and Ed-Co are moving to 8 player? As I have said before 8 player in NE Iowa is getting better and better. Too long until football season starts right??!!
 
Nice work pax

That is an awfully long drive for Newell-Fonda and West Bend to get to Riceville. Three hours for N-F and 2 hrs 20 mins. for West Bend according to Google Maps. Pretty dang spread out district. Wouldn't Rockford or Janesville make more sense in D2? And will CAL and NE Hamilton still be around? I know NEHtrojan has said they've been in talks...always a possibility with 8-man schools.

Is Laurens-Marathon for sure consolidating or sharing sports? Last I heard, they hadn't made a decision on that yet. If they don't, they'll be in D2, and you can send Riceville to D3.

D2 is a hard one...not many teams east of D1, but too many in the NW corner.
 
Really hope that's not how it plays out. I'd like to see Wayne and HLV stay together, even though it's a long trip. That has the potential to turn into a solid rivalry, with two great games this season to jump start things.
 
CAL decided that they wanted to remain on their own for football, so there will be no sharing. As of right now NEH is planning to have football, but we are considering all options in trying to decide what is best for our kids. I was told GMG will NOT be going to 8-man, but I don't know if that is official. I sure hope that is not how district two unfolds, way to much travel.
 
I've never heard of Guthrie Center going 8 man. If they do I could see them more in D6 rather than 7 with Wayne staying in 5 and Woodbine in 7. East Mills I believe from what I've heard would be the team to go to D8.
 
Uhmmm... what happened to Central City and Cedar Valley Christian in District 4? I didn't see them in any other districts, are they still having a program this next year?
 
Charter Oak-Ute school board has already voted to only play a JV schedule in 2014. They will have only 4 seniors, NO juniors and like 6 Sophs plus maybe 8 Freshman.
 
Interested to know where you came up with your numbers (beds). In 2013 Beds Essex/South Page showed 84 kids. To jump to 106 would be like adding another class into the figure.

Now for district 8. You are ok on Essex. But need to drop the South Page half. South Page's board and Clarinda's board voted to share Football, Baseball, and wrestling next year. South Page will field or try to field their own Basketball and Track teams. No more Essex/South Page. 2013 Essex shows beds of 55 if memory serves me right.

You also might consider East Mills in 8 man. I would pull Woodbine out and move East Mills in that slot.

Another team that might enter into the conversation would be Heartland Christian. I know they didn't have a varsity team this year. But they did play some JV teams. Haven't heard one way or the other on whether they planned to field a varsity in 2014 or not.

Another school that might also go 8 man would be Westwood Sloan. Their last beds in 2013 was 110. Which would allow them to go 8 man as long as it stays there. But I wouldn't figure them in District 8.

This post was edited on 11/25 11:57 PM by Voicefromthestands
 
Lots of good conversation going here. Love to see it. This list gives us plenty of fuel for the winter fires. The hard part is not knowing for sure who for sure is moving to 8 player and who is not. I am guessing who will and won't be for sure will be the subject of conjecture for awhile yet. Any one have a hard core list of who definitely is switching? Happy Thanksgiving to all!!
 
I have also never heard any rumblings of Guthrie Center going. There have been some "rumors" EHK/E will be moving back to 11 man. Also, I think it is almost certain East Mills will be moving.

Again, nothing here is concrete. Sloan and West Manona(sp?) are also rumored to be looking for a move down.

Great discussions for the off-season for sure. Hopefully this keeps up until the new districts come out. I am sure coaching vacancies will be taking place as well.
 
It will be fun to speculate until actual districts come out. Will Central City in fact move back to 11 player? From what I can discern there are a good number of schools that can switch to 8 player. Question is will they or not. As one athletic director commented to me "would you rather go 2-7 in 11 player football or give your student athletes a chance at the playoffs and compete for district titles". That is a difficult question to answer for some schools. We all know there will be some schools who should play 8 player but won't and vice versa. Not passing judgment at all just an observation. It is not an easy decision either way. At the end of the day each program has to do what is in the true best interest of the student athletes and their safety. Great stuff going here keep it up!!
 
PAX....where is Colo-Nesco?
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Originally posted by KSO_39:
Have never heard of Lynnville-Sully going to 8-man?
I would be shocked if Lynnville-Sully and/or WACO went down. I have heard some rumors that Iowa Valley of Marengo would like to petition to drop to 8-man.
 
Originally posted by paxregis:
It's that magical time that only comes around every other year: "What will the new football districts look like?" We have several months (March) until the real districts are released the the IHSAA and almost as long (January) before the Iowa Department of education releases their enrollment data, but I thought I would try to keep the boards engaged by mocking up classes & districts based off grade 8-10 enrollment from the fall of 2012. That should give a good approximation of where this fall's 9-11 enrollment should stack up the schools. I will be posting each class projection on their own board until Luke consolidates everything to the off-season football board.



1 83 Clay Central-Everly
1 64 Harris-Lake Park
1 109 Kingsley-Pierson
1 102 Marcus-Meriden-Cleghorn
1 55 Remsen St Mary's
1 95 Remsen-Union
1 79 River Valley
1 43 Whiting

2 57 CAL, Latimer
2 76 Clarksville
2 107 Newell-Fonda
2 109 North Iowa
2 54 Northeast Hamilton
2 111 Northwood-Kensett
2 64 Riceville
2 103 West Bend-Mallard

3 113 Dunkerton
3 104 Edgewood-Colesburg
3 110 Gilbertville Don Bosco
3 80 Janesville
3 92 Kee, Lansing
3 110 Rockford
3 108 Tripoli
3 97 Turkey Valley

4 107 Central, Elkader
4 76 GMG, Garwin
4 72 HLV,Victor
4 100 Lynnville-Sully
4 47 Meskwaki Settlement School
4 115 Midland, Wyoming
4 96 Springville
4 72 West Central, Maynard

5 111 Danville
5 99 Lone Tree
5 80 Moravia
5 47 Seymour
5 66 Tri-County
5 95 Twin Cedars
5 107 WACO, Wayland
5 98 Winfield-Mount Union

6 80 Adair-Casey
6 93 Ankeny Christian/Iowa Christian
6 66 Grandview Park Baptist
6 60 Lamoni
6 55 Melcher-Dallas
6 59 Mormon Trail, Garden Grove
6 59 Murray
6 106 Wayne County

7 58 Ar-We-Va, Westside
7 100 Boyer Valley
7 78 Charter Oak-Ute
7 106 Coon Rapids-Bayard
7 117 Elk Horn-Kimballton/Exira
7 76 Glidden-Ralston
7 101 Guthrie Center
7 101 West Harrison

8 97 CAM, Anita
8 106 Essex/South Page
8 98 Fremont-Mills
8 86 Lenox
8 103 Nishnabotna
8 86 Sidney
8 44 Stanton
8 86 Woodbine
Let's go ahead and assume that these are 100% correct. If this was the case, who all do you see coming out of these districts?
 
I am pretty positive Southeast Warren and English Valleys are dropping. However if these are the districts, my picks are...


District 1: MMC
District 2: Northwood-Kensett
District 3: Don Bosco
District 4: Lynnville-Sully
District 5: WACO
District 6: Melcher-Dallas
District 7: EHK-Exira
District 8: Fremont-Mills
 
Originally posted by Mr Deeds:

I am pretty positive Southeast Warren and English Valleys are dropping. However if these are the districts, my picks are...


District 1: MMC
District 2: Northwood-Kensett
District 3: Don Bosco
District 4: Lynnville-Sully
District 5: WACO
District 6: Melcher-Dallas
District 7: EHK-Exira
District 8: Fremont-Mills
+1
 
I thought one of the Remsen schools was disolving? May have been hearing things though. Iam guessing L-M will be fielding a team next year, have some friends in that area and it sounds like the girls programs are the issue on possible sharing of athletics.
 
How many confirmed Class A teams have said they're dropping down and how many teams have said they're making the jump back to Class A? Anybody?
 
Good discussion going here. Does anyone know for sure when new district will/may be released. I seem to remember talking it over in Des Moines at state wrestling which would be mid February. I may be way wrong. All I know is it will interesting for all classes and it will be another outstanding year of football across our great state. Would be neat to know who is actually moving to 8 player but we may not know all programs that are making the move until districts are out. Should keep the offseason interesting to say the least.
 
Radio Iowa also stated in their article the decision on the switch to 8 player has to be made by Friday. This may have been mentioned already, if so, my bad. We may see more clarity on the teams after Friday.
 
Originally posted by gonorse92:
Radio Iowa also stated in their article the decision on the switch to 8 player has to be made by Friday. This may have been mentioned already, if so, my bad. We may see more clarity on the teams after Friday.
Friday, December 6th is the deadline Boone has given all the school for decision to play or not to play and also any mergers of schools with regards to next years football season.....maybe we will know more after Friday
 
I heard the same last night from a school administrator. Will be interesting across the board to see what is happening. Winter sports seasons are underway but football will be here before we know it.
 
Originally posted by gmgwolverine05:
GMG will NOT move to 8 man. We went 4-5 this year, and will make a run for district championship in 2014!!!
Does Brad Holloway still have eligibility? If so then I think they have a chance for a district title but if he doesn't then I think GMG is looking four seed.
 
GTRA has a very good shot at being over the beds and having to go back to 11 man football. Also I believe whiting either won't have a team or will be joining someone. I know Laurens has been in discussing joining pocahantas, Sioux central or west bend. My guess would be Pocahontas.
 
Cedar Valley Christian will be be fielding a team, as well as Central City. According to state, we will both be back in district 4. Kee high is questionable. They have asked state to allow them to play all wisconsin school since they are closer.
 
And I forgot to mention. HLV has asked to be moved to district 4 because of travel concerns. If other schools are moving down to 8 man, then that could become a reality. I'm not sure HLV would really want that. Traveling up to Kee and Elkader Central is no picnic.

Dec. 6 is the deadline for schools to decide. Iowa Football coaches got to have their say last night (Dec. 4). Schools get to decide who they want to play for their first game by early Jan. My guess districts will be posted by early Feb.
 
Just to clarify Kee High may not be playing football in the state of Iowa?? Would be somewhat of a surprise. They are part of the Upper Iowa conference for other sports and conference members such as Central Elkader, West Central and Turkey Valley are all playing 8 player. They are kind of on an island but not far from the aforementioned schools and others such as Tripoli, Don Bosco, Riceville, Dunkerton and others. Would be too bad to see them not part of the mix. They have a very nice football field area and have been pretty competitive on the field. Can anyone elaborate on this? Thanks.
 
Originally posted by CoachBets:
Cedar Valley Christian will be be fielding a team, as well as Central City. According to state, we will both be back in district 4. Kee high is questionable. They have asked state to allow them to play all wisconsin school since they are closer.
If nothing has been released from the state, how do you know all this?
 
Just found out this evening that Guthrie Center will indeed go to 8 man. A team that has some pretty good athletes via the wrestling form. I look for them to compete in any district that they contend in. There was talk that they were going to join AC in football, but that fell through.
 
Originally posted by CoachBets:
And I forgot to mention. HLV has asked to be moved to district 4 because of travel concerns. If other schools are moving down to 8 man, then that could become a reality. I'm not sure HLV would really want that. Traveling up to Kee and Elkader Central is no picnic.

Dec. 6 is the deadline for schools to decide. Iowa Football coaches got to have their say last night (Dec. 4). Schools get to decide who they want to play for their first game by early Jan. My guess districts will be posted by early Feb.
Coach Bets, I've talked to two of the three HLV coaches and they have confirmed that what you've posted is 100% false. Coach Smith said they will travel wherever they are assigned just like every other team in the state of Iowa and they never petitioned to District 4.

If they were to ask to join District 4 for any reason I believe it would be for an upgrade in competition, not for travel purposes. Believe it or not, HLV doesn't really like playing in the worst district in the state but those are the cards that we're dealt. Hopefully the district strengthens up and we get some solid non-district games for next season. Adding Springville and Glidden-Ralston were very beneficial to our program. I'm anxious to see district pairings along with the schedules.
This post was edited on 12/7 8:50 PM by SICL Cares
 
I don't have to talk to coach Smith to know Coach Bets is making that up, teams can't petition to what district they want to be in, secondly no one knows what district 4 will be so they wouldn't know what travel that would mean.
 
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