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District 1:
Ames
Ankeny
CB Thomas Jefferson
DSM East
SC North
Southeast Polk

District 2:
DSM North
DSM Roosevelt
Dowling Catholic
Johnston
CB Lewis Central
SC East

District 3:
Ankeny Centennial
CB Abe Lincoln
DSM Hoover
DSM Lincoln
SC West
WDM Valley

District 4:
Fort Dodge
Indianola
Marshalltown
Mason City
Urbandale
Waukee

District 5:
Cedar Falls
Cedar Rapids Jefferson
Cedar Rapids Kennedy
Linn-Mar, Marion
Waterloo East
Waterloo West

District 6:
Burlington
Cedar Rapids Washington
Iowa City
Muscatine
Ottumwa
Cedar Rapids Prairie

District 7:
Davenport Central
Davenport North
Dubuque Hempstead
Iowa City West
Pleasant Valley

District 8:
Bettendorf
Clinton
Davenport West
Dubuque, Senior
North Scott
 
As a whole, I'd say this was pretty close to what I expected. I was pretty sure the state was gonna keep a 24/22 split West/East. Especially after they mentioned having a sister district during the regular season for the two 5-team districts.

Strange that they basically took the old MAC schools, subtracted Burlington and Muscatine then added the two Dubuque schools and an Iowa City school to create the two five-team districts. The western half was the standard integration they've had the last couple years.
 
Still makes absolutely no sense at all. Sad. Hope they can keep as many of the metro area teams playing each other thoug they are in different districts.
 
District #6 is interesting. Ottumwa goes away from a CIML type schedule after 15 years. Burlington and Muscatine are moved out of the MAC scheduling. I know that Ottumwa has played 4 of their 5 new district opponents back in the day...but it has been a long time. I will be curious to see if there will be a lot of 4A teams scheduling 3A opponents in non-district or if the IHSAA will help schedule an all 4A slate.
This post was edited on 1/23 2:23 PM by tnobd
 
Originally posted by iceland:
Still makes absolutely no sense at all. Sad. Hope they can keep as many of the metro area teams playing each other thoug they are in different districts.
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I was talking to tylercoan(from this site) on Facebook about this very thing. I think a lot of what the state did as far as pairing up these districts was to ensure that everybody from a particular metro area can get everybody else on the schedule. This is why the five 4A metro schools from Linn County were put into two districts. The scheduling of some of those ten round-robin match-ups can happen "in district" play. So they don't have to be played in the first four weeks, as they normally would have to be. The Des Moines public schools being split over three districts doesn't allow for a true round-robin.
 
In soccer terms, District 1 appears to be the "Group of Death" with Ankeny, SEP, and Ames. Both SC North & DSM East struggled last season but both bring back a lot of kids I believe.

Nobody's got it better than Waukee.
 
Agreed. District 1 with Ankeny, SEP, Ames and SC-N will have the closest games. Believe SEP pulls it out.

Waukee has a walk in the park now that Urbandale loses a ton of talent. Waukee only played Valley in the regular season which didn't help prepare them for the later stages of the play-offs. Could happen again this year.
 
The first thing I saw was money flying out the window for district 7. Attendance is going to be pretty rotten at some of those games.
 
lewis central finally went 4a......sort of a mild suprise, though i thought it would eventually happen some year
 
District #5 has the one dominant team also much like #4.

Screwloose,
I was reading some of the 4A schools newspaper articles on the new districts. I believe the Marshalltown AD stressed the scheduling of non-district opponents they were competitive with in their geographic distance limits ? IMO Ottumwa/Marshalltown should continue their series also . It reminds me of the Newton series we had for years.
 
It's possible that Marshalltown and Ottumwa keep playing. If I were to guess, I think Ottumwa will play a couple 3A schools, Oskaloosa and Fairfield/Mount Pleasant. On top of that, I think the overall thought was Indianola was their main target from the CIML, which makes sense. The final opponent, all a guess again, would probably be one of the public schools in Davenport.

I made a mock schedule last night, which anybody can look at link provided.

2014 Mock 4A Schedule
 
Screw, I love the work you do!! The mock schedules you put together are great. I'd love to compare this versus what really comes down because after looking at the Old-MVC teams, I think you're really close to nailing down what the match-ups should be. Great work!
 
Thanks. The only thing I didn't do with it was to tweak games for multiple games being at the same venue, eg. Brady Street, Kingston Stadium, etc. But the purpose was to try and get an overall idea of what to expect. I tried to match teams up with rivals first, games that were likely to be played against 3A schools and then fill out the rest with games against opponents that were close to a competition level. Didn't always work out perfectly, but pretty close. Also made it so that teams in districts with two Des Moines public schools, Waterloo metro schools, Cedar Rapids metro schools and Davenport public schools, had a split at home and away. Did the same with the first three districts in a sense that nobody traveled to Sioux City AND Council Bluffs...at least in district play.
 
Screwloose,
From what I have heard....neither Oskaloosa or Fairfield are really interested in renewing a series with their 4A neighbors. Oskaloosa makes sense early in the year for Ottumwa though. It was one of the oldest series in the state until it was dropped when the Bulldogs went to CIML play in the 90s. I would request Newton also....to be nostalgic.
 
Non district matchups along with the entire schedule should be released sometime in the next 3 weeks to a month I believe. The schools have to have the teams that they would like to play non-district in by the 2nd.
 
Pella played Marshalltown last two years. I could see them getting paired up with Ottumwa this go round.
 
I'd be very surprised if all the Cedar Rapids metro teams didn't play all the others. I think they purposely put those five teams in two districts so that would be possible.
 
While it's possible that all three of Kennedy/Jefferson/Linn-Mar won't play both Washington/Prairie, I think it's very likely that they will. They will have four non-district games to fill, after all. If they all played, that would leave Wash and Prairie with one more game to fill, and two more games for Kennedy/Jeff/L-M ... eminently doable. I would think at a minimum all three of the Cedar Rapids district schools (Wash/Jeff/Kennedy) will play each other.

This post was edited on 1/25 5:16 PM by KidSilverhair
 
From a Cedar Falls perspective, it would have been nice to see them put CR Washington in District 5 instead of Jefferson or Kennedy, just from strength of schedule perspective. The rest of District 5, CF notwithstanding, looks fairly weak, while District 6 looks pretty solid. That might at least provide a little more parity between the two districts.
 
The Cedar Rapids Metro schools will still more than likely play each other as I am being told that the AD/coaches are putting these games as first priority on their wish list for non-district games. I also caught wind from a good source that CR Wash is pushing to get Bettendorf on the schedule as a non-district game. If that happens this could be a match-up of two top ten teams early in the season.
 
Originally posted by CF_93:

From a Cedar Falls perspective, it would have been nice to see them put CR Washington in District 5 instead of Jefferson or Kennedy, just from strength of schedule perspective. The rest of District 5, CF notwithstanding, looks fairly weak, while District 6 looks pretty solid. That might at least provide a little more parity between the two districts.
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I agree. When I saw the districts revealed, I thought D6 was pretty heavy and D5 was a little light. Washington for Jefferson would have given each a more balanced look.
 
The top four Teams in the MVC from 1992-Present.
1) IC High............ District 6
2) Cedar Falls.......District 5
3) CR Washington.District 6
4) IC West............District 7
5) CR Prairie........ District 6
6) CR Kennedy......District 5
7) Hempstead........District 7
8) Linn-Mar............District 5
9) CR Jefferson......District 5
10) Wat West........District 5
11) Dub Senior.......District 8
12) Wat. East........District 5
 
I was wondering how the playoffs might look this upcoming fall, with the new format. These are just rough predictions, base mostly on tradition and what happened last year. No slight intended.

QUALIFIERS
#1 Seeds...
Ames, WDM Dowling, WDM Valley, Waukee, Cedar Falls, IC High, Pleasant Valley, Bettendorf

#2 Seeds...
Southeast Polk, SC East, Ank Centennial, Urbandale, CR Kennedy, CR Washington, IC West, North Scott

#3 Seeds...
Ankeny, Johnston, CB Lincoln, Indianola, Wat West, Muscatine, Dub Hempstead, Clinton

#4 Seeds...
SC North, CB Lewis Central, DM Hoover, Mason City, Marion Lin-Mar, CR Prairie, Dav Central, Dub Senior

FIRST ROUND...
4/1
Sioux City North @ Ames (172 miles)
Council Bluffs Lewis Central @ Waukee (116 miles)
Mason City @ West Des Moines Valley (132 miles)
Des Moines Hoover @ West Des Moines Dowling (10 miles)
Cedar Rapids Prairie @ Cedar Falls (63 miles)
Davenport Central @ Bettendorf (5 miles)
Dub Senior @ Pleasant Valley (74 miles)
Marion Lin-Mar @ Iowa City High (36 miles)
3/2
Council Bluffs Lincoln @ Sioux City East (96 miles)
Indianola @ Southeast Polk (20 miles)
Ankeny @ Urbandale (14 miles)
Johnston @ Ank Centennial (9 miles)
Waterloo West @ Cedar Rapids Washington (55 miles)
Dubuque Senior @ North Scott (63 miles)
Clinton @ Cedar Rapids Kennedy (83 miles)
Muscatine @ Iowa City West (37 miles)
 
Not really a surprise, but according to Xavier's AD Mike Winker, none of the metro 4A Cedar Rapids schools have interest in scheduling Xavier.

Again, no real surprise, and you can't blame the 4A schools. They have practically nothing to gain, and they shouldn't have any problem filling out their non-district schedule with other 4A teams. What I do find interesting, though, is the possible requests by the CR schools to play teams from the MAC. If they had been able to work out that kind of cross-conference scheduling in the first place, the MVC and MAC could have survived together. Instead, they've turned into districts - and might very well have the same kinds of schedules they would have had with conferences.

http://metrosportsreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=17287:saints-get-cold-shoulder-from-metro-foes&catid=184:about-msr
 
Cross-conference scheduling is for sure the direction the MVC wanted to go, What prevented this from happening was Xavier, Assumption,and Dubuque Wahlert dropping down to 3A. This made a uneven balance of teams on the eastern half of the state vs the west if they were decided to try and keep the conferences alive. The fear from the 4A schools on the eastern side of state was that they would have some of their playoff spots moved to the western side of the state, so the only way to keep those were to go to district play and have a couple of the teams from the west shift to the east.
 
I have to think some 4A School will play Xavier. I don't think Dub. Senior or Hempstead want to quit playing Wahlert. I have
not seen anything yet about Assumption. I'm thinking they will be playing some of the old MAC teams .I think if CF has to play a 3A school, they would want to play Waverly as it would probably bring one of the biggest gates in the metro area. If they have to play two 3A schools then I would think Xavier would be 2nd on the list.
 
Not 100% on this yet, but it looks like screwloose's mock schedule for DSM Lincoln is only off by one. Substitute Marshalltown for Ankeny and I believe that's what the schedule will look like.
 
So, who benefits most from 4-A/ 3-A games concerning MVC schools especially if nobody wants to play Xavier? Waverly-SR has played Independence, Benton, North Fayette etc... over the years but not always won. I don't see how Cedar Falls gains by playing a 3-A school outside of Xavier. I know some 3-A schools are consistently better than some 4-A's. Maybe Decorah would be a better choice for CF in that corner of the state?
This post was edited on 1/28 11:27 PM by On Wings of Eagles
 
The benefits for a 4a-3a game most likely will be the gate money. Teams have nothing to lose by playing down or up for the reason ONLY DISTRICT games decide on playoffs.

I am not familiar with say a Cedar Falls/Waverly rivalry but look at the travel cost saved, possible big crowd, concessions. Gates like this are the types of gates that can help take care of the athletic budget for smaller non revenue sports for a school, i.e golf, tennis, ets.

In the Des Moines area Indianola wants to play Norwalk who is going to be close to 4a status in a year or two. At this time rumor has it Norwalk does not want to play the game. Could be a great rival game with huge gates. Norwalk has a new field and Indianola planning on opening up a new stadium for the 2015 season. A 15 mile trip maybe with a big crowd.

Playing up or playing down, the only negative thing is one might lose some pride if they lose.
 
Waverly has already played Mason City, it only makes sense for Waverly to play Cedar Falls when they can. Waverly vs CF would draw a Huge gate compared to CF playing Xavier. CF vs Xavier would draw a huge gate then CF vs Decorah. I am looking at the Dubuque situation and going out on a limb that 4A will not be a compete in a 4A schedule only. It appears to me that on the Eastern side, that the Cedar Rapids Schools may have a opportunity to play a complete 4A schedule.
 
I find it hilarious that no metro's want to play Xavier. I wonder if the boys in boone will step in and make someone play them... Watching Xavier play, Benton, CCA or CPU wouldn't be worth the admission price.
 
The boys in Boone better not MAKE the 4A schools play schools in a lower class. If the 4A schools choose to add a 3A or lower team to their schedule, that's fine. For the state to force such a match-up is a crock in my opinion. The metro AD's have gotten together and come up with a common stance that they want to play other 4A teams, no Solon vs. CRP, no Marion vs. L-M, no Xavier vs. Kennedy. I think the state should respect the decisions made by these 4A schools and schedule them against only other 4A schools. It's been said a million times now but I'll say it again, if Xavier wanted to continue playing 4A schools, they should have stayed in 4A.

And for their AD to come crying to the Metro Sports Report and for MSR to write an article like they did in attempt to add community pressure to the 4A metro schools is a bunch of crap. You've made the CHOICE to go to 3A, live with the consequences of lower gates and lower concessions so that you conceivably don't have to work as hard to be a title contender year in and year out.
 
I hope the state doesn't make a Cedar Rapids school play Xavier, like you said if they want to play 4A schools then they should have stayed in 4A simple as that.

As for Waverly playing CF, yes there would be a big gate, but I don't see Waverly really wanting to do this, CF is a completely different beast compared to Mason City.

Personally the 4A vs lower class games I see are

Mason City vs. Clear Lake and probably another maybe Waverly again or Charles City
Marshalltown vs. Newton
Assumption vs. Quad City
Wahlert vs. Senior and Hempstead
Heelan vs. 3 S.C. schools
Ottumwa vs. S.E. conference school, or Osky or Pella
Burlington vs. S.E. conference school
C.B. schools vs Harlan, Carroll, Glenwood, etc
DM Metro Schools I think will look for a 3A game or two
Indianola vs. someone? Norwalk would be perfect but not sure that will happen

Lastly the word on the 1A board from a Regina guy is that they are looking to play West, not sure if there is any truth to this but I wouldn't mind seeing it.
 
Screwloose,
In 4A -D6, it will be a battle to finish in the top 4 of that district...IMO CR Washington should have been placed in 4A-D5.
 
Originally posted by tnobd:

Screwloose,
In 4A -D6, it will be a battle to finish in the top 4 of that district...IMO CR Washington should have been placed in 4A-D5.
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Mentioned this before...100% agree. A Washington and Jefferson swap would have created a lot more balance. At least in recent history.
 
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