South Hamilton has a chance of winning if they play up to their abilities. No one is giving them a chance but they do have 2 running backs that were on the state champion 4x400 team last year and if they get into space they are hard to catch. I don't think W-G has a chance against Wilton because I witnessed SH beat them for the district championship and they really weren't very good.
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I know speed kills, but speed on a track and speed on a football field are 2 different things. Seen too many 100m dash 200m dash guys who make state, get put on a football field and see other guys just as fast as them.
Final IAHSAA rankings are out.
My thoughts/opinions:
*Treynor is NOT a top 10 team. The only ranked team they've played took them to the woodshed.
*South Hamilton is not top 10 IMHO, either. Their district is arguably the weakest in Class 1A. It'll all come out in the wash.
*West Branch is the only team in 1A who has beaten (2) of the top 10 teams. Interesting.
Grundy
Underwood
Regina
MFL
Sumner
SK
WB
Columbus
Wilton
Dike
^^^My top 10 right now
My thoughts/opinions:
*Treynor is NOT a top 10 team. The only ranked team they've played took them to the woodshed.
*South Hamilton is not top 10 IMHO, either. Their district is arguably the weakest in Class 1A. It'll all come out in the wash.
*West Branch is the only team in 1A who has beaten (2) of the top 10 teams. Interesting.
Grundy
Underwood
Regina
MFL
Sumner
SK
WB
Columbus
Wilton
Dike
^^^My top 10 right now
West Branch once had a team with the following:
200 champ
400 champ
400 low hurdles champ
800 champ
4x400 champs
4x800 champs
Distance Medley champs
Discus champ
..............and they did NOT make the football playoffs.
They did, however, win the state track title
In my opinion I believe District 2 is the weakest in Class 1A. Ogden who got third in District 7 smoked Manson who got second in that district and Poky lost to Manson and so did East Sac. District 1 isn't that far behind either because their district champion OABCIG lost to East Sac County who was 4-4 this season.
Just curious, what year was that and what class were they in? A lot of good team used to get left out of the playoffs because they didn't have the required points.West Branch once had a team with the following:
200 champ
400 champ
400 low hurdles champ
800 champ
4x400 champs
4x800 champs
Distance Medley champs
Discus champ
..............and they did NOT make the football playoffs.
They did, however, win the state track title
1982 and 1983.
Future All Big Ten and NFL Pro Bowler Marv Cook was on those squads. He was a part of the 4x4, 4x8, Distance med, and won the 400 lows. He also won the discus.
Mount Vernon would beat West Branch each year. Bears would finish 7-1 or 8-1 and be on the outside looking in. 16 team playoff format began in 1988.
I figured it was before the current playoff format. I believe they changed the playoff format/qualifiers after three Eastern Iowa teams all finished with similar records like 8-1 and they all beat each other but the third place team was left out of the playoffs which was a shame.1982 and 1983.
Future All Big Ten and NFL Pro Bowler Marv Cook was on those squads. He was a part of the 4x4, 4x8, Distance med, and won the 400 lows. He also won the discus.
Mount Vernon would beat West Branch each year. Bears would finish 7-1 or 8-1 and be on the outside looking in. 16 team playoff format began in 1988.
The current format may not be all that great but at lease good teams are not left out anymore. I think the IHSAA might look at the format in the future because in Class 2A you have two teams with losing records playing each other WM vs. NH in the first round and obviously one of them will advance while a better team such as Carroll Kuemper vs. Cherokee or Western Christian vs. ELC will not advance after the first round because of geography.
I'm vaguely familiar with the scenario of which you speak
2006: 13 point rule. It was used for the champion, but not for the runner up. Head to Head was used for the runner up.
Montezuma (6-3) - champion
Regina (8-1) - runner up
West Branch (8-1) - left out
WB beat Montezuma
Regina beat West Branch in 2OT
Montezuma beat Regina
Montezuma went on to be the runner up in Class 1A.
I believe that is correct. Because it didn't make sense that the team that got left out, WB, actually beat the state runner-up but didn't even make the playoffs. I think the IHSAA and everyone else knew they had to come up with a better plan going forward.I'm vaguely familiar with the scenario of which you speak
2006: 13 point rule. It was used for the champion, but not for the runner up. Head to Head was used for the runner up.
Montezuma (6-3) - champion
Regina (8-1) - runner up
West Branch (8-1) - left out
WB beat Montezuma
Regina beat West Branch in 2OT
Montezuma beat Regina
Montezuma went on to be the runner up in Class 1A.
I think grundy beat both Dinh and Wal Columbus
Even though they have 1 loss, is Wilton really good enough to be rated #9? Barely beat WB and get smoked by Regina. South Hamilton only has 1 loss and it was to a good 2A school.
And zero wins against a team with a winning record. Just presenting facts for discussion
They've been in mine for awhile. But, I've paid rent and a mortgage
At the risk of opening a can of worms (because i dont have any skin in the game), here is a stat for you @Pinehawk
Regina is 0-1 against teams named the Bears.
PICK EM CONTEST, anyone?
4th Place at 1st Place
Ridge View (4-4) at Emmetsburg (6-2)
Cascade (2-6) at Grundy Center (8-0)
Hudson (5-3) at MFL MarMac (7-1)
Shenandoah (3-5) at OABCIG (6-2)
Eddyville-Blakesburg-Fremont (3-5) at Regina, Iowa City (7-1)
West Central Valley (3-5) at Sigourney/Keota (7-1)
Denver (5-3) at South Hamilton (7-1)
East Sac County (4-4) at Underwood (7-1)
3rd Place at 2nd Place
Pocahontas Area (4-4) at Columbus Catholic, Waterloo (6-2)
AHSTW (5-3) at Hinton (5-3)
Dike-New Hartford (5-3) at Manson NW Webster (3-5)
Ogden (4-4) at Pella Christian (6-2)
South Hardin (4-4) at Sumner-Fredericksburg (7-1)
West Sioux, Hawarden (4-4) at Treynor (7-1)
Pleasantville (5-3) at West Branch (5-3)
Wilton (7-1) at Woodward-Granger (4-4)
4th Place at 1st Place
Ridge View (4-4) at Emmetsburg (6-2)
Cascade (2-6) at Grundy Center (8-0)
Hudson (5-3) at MFL MarMac (7-1)
Shenandoah (3-5) at OABCIG (6-2)
Eddyville-Blakesburg-Fremont (3-5) at Regina, Iowa City (7-1)
West Central Valley (3-5) at Sigourney/Keota (7-1)
Denver (5-3) at South Hamilton (7-1)
East Sac County (4-4) at Underwood (7-1)
3rd Place at 2nd Place
Pocahontas Area (4-4) at Columbus Catholic, Waterloo (6-2)
AHSTW (5-3) at Hinton (5-3)
Dike-New Hartford (5-3) at Manson NW Webster (3-5)
Ogden (4-4) at Pella Christian (6-2)
South Hardin (4-4) at Sumner-Fredericksburg (7-1)
West Sioux, Hawarden (4-4) at Treynor (7-1)
Pleasantville (5-3) at West Branch (5-3)
Wilton (7-1) at Woodward-Granger (4-4)
4th Place at 1st Place
Ridge View (4-4) at Emmetsburg (6-2)
Cascade (2-6) at Grundy Center (8-0)
Hudson (5-3) at MFL MarMac (7-1)
Shenandoah (3-5) at OABCIG (6-2)
Eddyville-Blakesburg-Fremont (3-5) at Regina, Iowa City (7-1)
West Central Valley (3-5) at Sigourney/Keota (7-1)
Denver (5-3) at South Hamilton (7-1)
East Sac County (4-4) at Underwood (7-1)
3rd Place at 2nd Place
Pocahontas Area (4-4) at Columbus Catholic, Waterloo (6-2)
AHSTW (5-3) at Hinton (5-3)
Dike-New Hartford (5-3) at Manson NW Webster (3-5)
Ogden (4-4) at Pella Christian (6-2)
South Hardin (4-4) at Sumner-Fredericksburg (7-1)
West Sioux, Hawarden (4-4) at Treynor (7-1)
Pleasantville (5-3) at West Branch (5-3)
Wilton (7-1) at Woodward-Granger (4-4)
I am confident on three "upsets" (visiting teams win). I just could not pull the trigger on Denver. I think it may be the best game of the night but I do not think they have it in them to pull out the win.
Most of the 1-4 games will be continuous clock. I think there will be 3 or 4 of the 2-3 matchups that will be continuous at some point during the game. It may not end that way with reserves going in but it will be there at some point.
Ridge View (4-4) at Emmetsburg (6-2)
Cascade (2-6) at Grundy Center (8-0)
Hudson (5-3) at MFL MarMac (7-1)
Shenandoah (3-5) at OABCIG (6-2)
Eddyville-Blakesburg-Fremont (3-5) at Regina, Iowa City (7-1)
West Central Valley (3-5) at Sigourney/Keota (7-1)
Denver (5-3) at South Hamilton (7-1)
East Sac County (4-4) at Underwood (7-1)
3rd Place at 2nd Place
Pocahontas Area (4-4) at Columbus Catholic, Waterloo (6-2)
AHSTW (5-3) at Hinton (5-3)
Dike-New Hartford (5-3) at Manson NW Webster (3-5)
Ogden (4-4) at Pella Christian (6-2)
South Hardin (4-4) at Sumner-Fredericksburg (7-1)
West Sioux, Hawarden (4-4) at Treynor (7-1)
Pleasantville (5-3) at West Branch (5-3)
Wilton (7-1) at Woodward-Granger (4-4)
I am confident on three "upsets" (visiting teams win). I just could not pull the trigger on Denver. I think it may be the best game of the night but I do not think they have it in them to pull out the win.
Most of the 1-4 games will be continuous clock. I think there will be 3 or 4 of the 2-3 matchups that will be continuous at some point during the game. It may not end that way with reserves going in but it will be there at some point.
Is it true that Sumner Fred lost their starting QB couple weeks ago and just last week lost their starting RB to injuries? Thats not good going into the post season.
Henderson? Willems?
Willems is lightning in a bottle. Henderson is gritty. Both are extremely talented.
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Ridge View (4-4) at Emmetsburg (6-2)
Cascade (2-6) at Grundy Center (8-0)
Hudson (5-3) at MFL MarMac (7-1)
Shenandoah (3-5) at OABCIG (6-2)
Eddyville-Blakesburg-Fremont (3-5) at Regina, Iowa City (7-1)
West Central Valley (3-5) at Sigourney/Keota (7-1)
Denver (5-3) at South Hamilton (7-1)
East Sac County (4-4) at Underwood (7-1)
3rd Place at 2nd Place
Pocahontas Area (4-4) at Columbus Catholic, Waterloo (6-2)
AHSTW (5-3) at Hinton (5-3)
Dike-New Hartford (5-3) at Manson NW Webster (3-5)
Ogden (4-4) at Pella Christian (6-2)
South Hardin (4-4) at Sumner-Fredericksburg (7-1)
West Sioux, Hawarden (4-4) at Treynor (7-1)
Pleasantville (5-3) at West Branch (5-3)
Wilton (7-1) at Woodward-Granger (4-4)
I am almost tempted to take South Hardin if SF is without two of it's key guys
Cascade (2-6) at Grundy Center (8-0)
Hudson (5-3) at MFL MarMac (7-1)
Shenandoah (3-5) at OABCIG (6-2)
Eddyville-Blakesburg-Fremont (3-5) at Regina, Iowa City (7-1)
West Central Valley (3-5) at Sigourney/Keota (7-1)
Denver (5-3) at South Hamilton (7-1)
East Sac County (4-4) at Underwood (7-1)
3rd Place at 2nd Place
Pocahontas Area (4-4) at Columbus Catholic, Waterloo (6-2)
AHSTW (5-3) at Hinton (5-3)
Dike-New Hartford (5-3) at Manson NW Webster (3-5)
Ogden (4-4) at Pella Christian (6-2)
South Hardin (4-4) at Sumner-Fredericksburg (7-1)
West Sioux, Hawarden (4-4) at Treynor (7-1)
Pleasantville (5-3) at West Branch (5-3)
Wilton (7-1) at Woodward-Granger (4-4)
I am almost tempted to take South Hardin if SF is without two of it's key guys
I remember in 2019 when West Lyon went to Osage, then DNH then the UNI Dome for their last 4 games. That is a lot of driving.
Whoa, West Lyon to Dike is 253 miles. Pretty sure the state sent Western Christian to Parkersburg last year and that was 230 miles. Hopefully the state matches up western teams with eastern teams in the 2nd and 3rd rounds so the best 4 teams get to the Dome.
My Picks
4th Place at 1st Place
Ridge View (4-4) at Emmetsburg (6-2)
Cascade (2-6) at Grundy Center (8-0)
Hudson (5-3) at MFL MarMac (7-1)
Shenandoah (3-5) at OABCIG (6-2)
Eddyville-Blakesburg-Fremont (3-5) at Regina, Iowa City (7-1)
West Central Valley (3-5) at Sigourney/Keota (7-1)
Denver (5-3) at South Hamilton (7-1)
East Sac County (4-4) at Underwood (7-1)
3rd Place at 2nd Place
Pocahontas Area (4-4) at Columbus Catholic, Waterloo (6-2)
AHSTW (5-3) at Hinton (5-3)
Dike-New Hartford (5-3) at Manson NW Webster (3-5)
Ogden (4-4) at Pella Christian (6-2)
South Hardin (4-4) at Sumner-Fredericksburg (7-1)
West Sioux, Hawarden (4-4) at Treynor (7-1)
Pleasantville (5-3) at West Branch (5-3)
Wilton (7-1) at Woodward-Granger (4-4)
4th Place at 1st Place
Ridge View (4-4) at Emmetsburg (6-2)
Cascade (2-6) at Grundy Center (8-0)
Hudson (5-3) at MFL MarMac (7-1)
Shenandoah (3-5) at OABCIG (6-2)
Eddyville-Blakesburg-Fremont (3-5) at Regina, Iowa City (7-1)
West Central Valley (3-5) at Sigourney/Keota (7-1)
Denver (5-3) at South Hamilton (7-1)
East Sac County (4-4) at Underwood (7-1)
3rd Place at 2nd Place
Pocahontas Area (4-4) at Columbus Catholic, Waterloo (6-2)
AHSTW (5-3) at Hinton (5-3)
Dike-New Hartford (5-3) at Manson NW Webster (3-5)
Ogden (4-4) at Pella Christian (6-2)
South Hardin (4-4) at Sumner-Fredericksburg (7-1)
West Sioux, Hawarden (4-4) at Treynor (7-1)
Pleasantville (5-3) at West Branch (5-3)
Wilton (7-1) at Woodward-Granger (4-4)
Ridge View (4-4) at Emmetsburg (6-2)
Cascade (2-6) at Grundy Center (8-0)
Hudson (5-3) at MFL MarMac (7-1)
Shenandoah (3-5) at OABCIG (6-2)
Eddyville-Blakesburg-Fremont (3-5) at Regina, Iowa City (7-1)
West Central Valley (3-5) at Sigourney/Keota (7-1)
Denver (5-3) at South Hamilton (7-1)
East Sac County (4-4) at Underwood (7-1)
3rd Place at 2nd Place
Pocahontas Area (4-4) at Columbus Catholic, Waterloo (6-2)
AHSTW (5-3) at Hinton (5-3)
Dike-New Hartford (5-3) at Manson NW Webster (3-5)
Ogden (4-4) at Pella Christian (6-2)
South Hardin (4-4) at Sumner-Fredericksburg (7-1)
West Sioux, Hawarden (4-4) at Treynor (7-1)
Pleasantville (5-3) at West Branch (5-3)
Wilton (7-1) at Woodward-Granger (4-4)
Cascade (2-6) at Grundy Center (8-0)
Hudson (5-3) at MFL MarMac (7-1)
Shenandoah (3-5) at OABCIG (6-2)
Eddyville-Blakesburg-Fremont (3-5) at Regina, Iowa City (7-1)
West Central Valley (3-5) at Sigourney/Keota (7-1)
Denver (5-3) at South Hamilton (7-1)
East Sac County (4-4) at Underwood (7-1)
3rd Place at 2nd Place
Pocahontas Area (4-4) at Columbus Catholic, Waterloo (6-2)
AHSTW (5-3) at Hinton (5-3)
Dike-New Hartford (5-3) at Manson NW Webster (3-5)
Ogden (4-4) at Pella Christian (6-2)
South Hardin (4-4) at Sumner-Fredericksburg (7-1)
West Sioux, Hawarden (4-4) at Treynor (7-1)
Pleasantville (5-3) at West Branch (5-3)
Wilton (7-1) at Woodward-Granger (4-4)
Ridge View (4-4) at Emmetsburg (6-2)
Cascade (2-6) at Grundy Center (8-0)
Hudson (5-3) at MFL MarMac (7-1)
Shenandoah (3-5) at OABCIG (6-2)
Eddyville-Blakesburg-Fremont (3-5) at Regina, Iowa City (7-1)
West Central Valley (3-5) at Sigourney/Keota (7-1)
Denver (5-3) at South Hamilton (7-1)
East Sac County (4-4) at Underwood (7-1)
3rd Place at 2nd Place
Pocahontas Area (4-4) at Columbus Catholic, Waterloo (6-2)
AHSTW (5-3) at Hinton (5-3)
Dike-New Hartford (5-3) at Manson NW Webster (3-5)
Ogden (4-4) at Pella Christian (6-2)
South Hardin (4-4) at Sumner-Fredericksburg (7-1)
West Sioux, Hawarden (4-4) at Treynor (7-1)
Pleasantville (5-3) at West Branch (5-3)
Wilton (7-1) at Woodward-Granger (4-4)
Cascade (2-6) at Grundy Center (8-0)
Hudson (5-3) at MFL MarMac (7-1)
Shenandoah (3-5) at OABCIG (6-2)
Eddyville-Blakesburg-Fremont (3-5) at Regina, Iowa City (7-1)
West Central Valley (3-5) at Sigourney/Keota (7-1)
Denver (5-3) at South Hamilton (7-1)
East Sac County (4-4) at Underwood (7-1)
3rd Place at 2nd Place
Pocahontas Area (4-4) at Columbus Catholic, Waterloo (6-2)
AHSTW (5-3) at Hinton (5-3)
Dike-New Hartford (5-3) at Manson NW Webster (3-5)
Ogden (4-4) at Pella Christian (6-2)
South Hardin (4-4) at Sumner-Fredericksburg (7-1)
West Sioux, Hawarden (4-4) at Treynor (7-1)
Pleasantville (5-3) at West Branch (5-3)
Wilton (7-1) at Woodward-Granger (4-4)
There is no way Sumner will get the home field. They are a 2 seed. Even if they are in the top 4 the rules state that #1 seed gets home field.
1. GC vs SF and South Hamilton vs Columbus
2. Is correct
3. Regina vs. PC and SK vs. WB
4. MFL vs Wilton and Eburg vs Dike
I think they will try to avoid rematches in round 2. They will have to do it in round 3
he has Denver beating South Hamilton. So then yes Sumner Fred could host because 7 #1 seeds and 1 #2 would host
But even if Denver wins, they would not have a #2 host a #4. #2 would host a #2 and a #1 would host a #4.
Ok, then Sigourney-Keota can host Denver and Sumner host West Branch.
It aint rocket science. Also, it's just a prediction. Just having some fun. We all know the IHSAA isn't going to take advice from the educates posters of Iowa Preps. Haha
West Branch hadn’t beaten Regina in well over a decade until last year. Then WB gets to host back to back years, and finally wins, both times with IC Liberty transfer QB’s.
You should know better than to talk too much, when WB hasn’t won anything since 1992.
In fact it would be hard to name a team that has underachieved as much as West Branch.
Good teams every year… but hasn’t won a State Championship in over 30 years.
Regina has won State Championships in 3 different classes since West Branch last won one.
It is interesting that all this talk is coming from the east side of the state. Yet, west of I-35 has won the 1A title every year since 2016. Will it change this year?
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