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HONKifUvCOACHED4BAMA said:
What is building back the right way? Bringing in 4 star HS kids to warm the bench while they watch your portal prizes play? Then after a year or so, they hit the portal?
All the top players hit the portal or threaten to every year. The coaches have no leverage anymore. The entire sport is fuct.
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Can’t argue with that. CFB ain’t what it was now.
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HONKifUvCOACHED4BAMA said:
What is building back the right way? Bringing in 4 star HS kids to warm the bench while they watch your portal prizes play? Then after a year or so, they hit the portal?
All the top players hit the portal or threaten to every year. The coaches have no leverage anymore. The entire sport is fuct.
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This. Coaches are going to get burned out very quickly because you aren't only recruiting HS kids each year, you're recruiting your own roster annually.
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derek_tiger said:
Some of my buds were comparing Spurrier's 1st year (1990) to the Freeze show going on now and how 'coaching and scheme' make up for lack of talent. I had to step in and school that muther fvcker on the talent Galen Hall left SOS (10 NFL players from '90 went to the NFL; TWO all-americans).... so there's that.

Let's face it.... Auburn hasn't had any decent recruiting since 2019... maybe longer. gustard never was good at this, Harsin absolutely sucked at it, and Freeze walked into a roster that Vanderbilt would have said 'er... no thanks'. EVEN WITH the NIL, I've not seen a shyttier OL than we have right now, and top that off with a Div II-A QB who thinks he's smarter than the coaches and runs the play HE wants to regardless what the HC calls.

CHF is building the program back the right way, but when your entire starting defensive backfield is either SO or FR, this is what you get. Hugh & Crew didn't suddenly forget how to coach... they're just playing the hand they're dealt. Next year will be better, but it's going to take another good recruiting year before we're back in the mix.
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What is building back the right way? Bringing in 4 star HS kids to warm the bench while they watch your portal prizes play? Then after a year or so, they hit the portal?
All the top players hit the portal or threaten to every year. The coaches have no leverage anymore. The entire sport is fuct.
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Playoff Pick 'em

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2A

  • Waukon at Anamosa
  • Chariton at Kuemper Catholic, Carroll
  • Union, LaPorte City at Mid-Prairie
  • Monticello at North Fayette Valley
  • Des Moines Christian at PCM
  • Cherokee at Spirit Lake
  • Albia at Van Meter
  • Garner-Hayfield-Ventura at West Lyon
  • Greene County at Clarinda
  • Forest City at Central Lyon/George-Little Rock
  • Mediapolis at Northeast
  • Western Christian, Hull at Okoboji
  • Jesup at Osage
  • Crestwood at Roland-Story
  • Centerville at West Burlington/Notre Dame
  • West Liberty at West Marshall
1A

  • Ogden at Dike-New Hartford
  • Eddyville-Blakesburg-Fremont at Grundy Center
  • Hudson at Manson Northwest Webster
  • Shenandoah at OABCIG
  • West Branch at Sigourney/Keota
  • West Sioux at Treynor
  • Aplington-Parkersburg at Wilton
  • East Sac County at Woodward-Granger
  • Hinton at AHSTW
  • Sumner-Fredericksburg at Beckman Catholic, Dyersville
  • Grand View Christian at Emmetsburg
  • Alburnett at MFL MarMac
  • Regina at Pleasantville
  • Underwood at Ridge View
  • Sioux Central at South Hamilton
  • Pella Christian at South Hardin

A

  • Wayne at ACGC
  • St. Albert, Council Bluffs vs. Gehlen Catholic, LeMars, at Akron-Westfield
  • Starmont at Lisbon
  • North Tama at Madrid
  • Columbus Community at Maquoketa Valley
  • South Central Calhoun at Tri-Center
  • Lake Mills at Wapsie Valley
  • Hartley-Melvin-Sanborn at West Hancock
  • Danville at Bellevue
  • Logan-Magnolia at MMCRU
  • Earlham at Mount Ayr
  • Newman Catholic, Mason City at Nashua-Plainfield
  • North Linn at Pekin
  • Lynnville-Sully at Riverside, Oakland
  • South Winneshiek at Saint Ansgar
  • Sibley-Ocheyedan at Woodbury Central
8man


  • Tripoli at Bishop Garrigan, Algona
  • Exira-EHK at Lenox
  • East Mills at Audubon
  • Springville at Don Bosco, Gilbertville
  • BGM, Brooklyn at Edgewood-Colesburg
  • Ar-We-Va at Fremont-Mills
  • Kee, Lansing at Gladbrook-Reinbeck
  • Southeast Warren at Iowa Valley
  • Winfield-Mount Union at Montezuma
  • West Bend-Mallard at St. Mary’s, Remsen
  • Clarksville at Riceville
  • Collins-Maxwell at Woodbine
  • Bedford at Belle Plaine
  • WACO at Central City
  • CAM at GTRA
  • St. Edmond at Janesville
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2A
  • Waukon at Anamosa
  • Chariton at Kuemper Catholic, Carroll
  • Union, LaPorte City at Mid-Prairie
  • Monticello at North Fayette Valley
  • Des Moines Christian at PCM
  • Cherokee at Spirit Lake
  • Albia at Van Meter
  • Garner-Hayfield-Ventura at West Lyon
  • Greene County at Clarinda
  • Forest City at Central Lyon/George-Little Rock
  • Mediapolis at Northeast
  • Western Christian, Hull at Okoboji
  • Jesup at Osage
  • Crestwood at Roland-Story
  • Centerville at West Burlington/Notre Dame
  • West Liberty at West Marshall
1A
  • Ogden at Dike-New Hartford
  • Eddyville-Blakesburg-Fremont at Grundy Center
  • Hudson at Manson Northwest Webster
  • Shenandoah at OABCIG
  • West Branch at Sigourney/Keota
  • West Sioux at Treynor
  • Aplington-Parkersburg at Wilton
  • East Sac County at Woodward-Granger
  • Hinton at AHSTW
  • Sumner-Fredericksburg at Beckman Catholic, Dyersville
  • Grand View Christian at Emmetsburg
  • Alburnett at MFL MarMac
  • Regina at Pleasantville
  • Underwood at Ridge View
  • Sioux Central at South Hamilton
  • Pella Christian at South Hardin

A
  • Wayne at ACGC
  • St. Albert, Council Bluffs vs. Gehlen Catholic, LeMars, at Akron-Westfield
  • Starmont at Lisbon
  • North Tama at Madrid
  • Columbus Community at Maquoketa Valley
  • South Central Calhoun at Tri-Center
  • Lake Mills at Wapsie Valley
  • Hartley-Melvin-Sanborn at West Hancock
  • Danville at Bellevue
  • Logan-Magnolia at MMCRU
  • Earlham at Mount Ayr
  • Newman Catholic, Mason City at Nashua-Plainfield
  • North Linn at Pekin
  • Lynnville-Sully at Riverside, Oakland
  • South Winneshiek at Saint Ansgar
  • Sibley-Ocheyedan at Woodbury Central
8man
  • Tripoli at Bishop Garrigan, Algona
  • Exira-EHK at Lenox
  • East Mills at Audubon
  • Springville at Don Bosco, Gilbertville
  • BGM, Brooklyn at Edgewood-Colesburg
  • Ar-We-Va at Fremont-Mills
  • Kee, Lansing at Gladbrook-Reinbeck
  • Southeast Warren at Iowa Valley
  • Winfield-Mount Union at Montezuma
  • West Bend-Mallard at St. Mary’s, Remsen
  • Clarksville at Riceville
  • Collins-Maxwell at Woodbine
  • Bedford at Belle Plaine
  • WACO at Central City
  • CAM at GTRA
  • St. Edmond at Janesville
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Playoff Pick 'em

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Here is what I am thinking

1 Point per game for the round of 32 class 2A, 1A, A and 8 man

1 Point per game for round of 16 (how many correct quarterfinalists you have)

2 Points per game for the quarterfinals (how many correct semifinalists you have)

5 Points per game for the semifinals (how many correct finalists you have)

10 Points per game for the finals (how many correct champions you have)

Tie Breaker Total Points for the 2A Championship

Friday's Picks are due Friday at 7:00 pm

The rest of the picks are due 11/1 at 7:00 pm

Just for fun, score your own, if I have time I will try to score them as well

2A
  • Waukon at Anamosa
  • Chariton at Kuemper Catholic, Carroll
  • Union, LaPorte City at Mid-Prairie
  • Monticello at North Fayette Valley
  • Des Moines Christian at PCM
  • Cherokee at Spirit Lake
  • Albia at Van Meter
  • Garner-Hayfield-Ventura at West Lyon
  • Greene County at Clarinda
  • Forest City at Central Lyon/George-Little Rock
  • Mediapolis at Northeast
  • Western Christian, Hull at Okoboji
  • Jesup at Osage
  • Crestwood at Roland-Story
  • Centerville at West Burlington/Notre Dame
  • West Liberty at West Marshall
1A
  • Ogden at Dike-New Hartford
  • Eddyville-Blakesburg-Fremont at Grundy Center
  • Hudson at Manson Northwest Webster
  • Shenandoah at OABCIG
  • West Branch at Sigourney/Keota
  • West Sioux at Treynor
  • Aplington-Parkersburg at Wilton
  • East Sac County at Woodward-Granger
  • Hinton at AHSTW
  • Sumner-Fredericksburg at Beckman Catholic, Dyersville
  • Grand View Christian at Emmetsburg
  • Alburnett at MFL MarMac
  • Regina at Pleasantville
  • Underwood at Ridge View
  • Sioux Central at South Hamilton
  • Pella Christian at South Hardin

A
  • Wayne at ACGC
  • St. Albert, Council Bluffs vs. Gehlen Catholic, LeMars, at Akron-Westfield
  • Starmont at Lisbon
  • North Tama at Madrid
  • Columbus Community at Maquoketa Valley
  • South Central Calhoun at Tri-Center
  • Lake Mills at Wapsie Valley
  • Hartley-Melvin-Sanborn at West Hancock
  • Danville at Bellevue
  • Logan-Magnolia at MMCRU
  • Earlham at Mount Ayr
  • Newman Catholic, Mason City at Nashua-Plainfield
  • North Linn at Pekin
  • Lynnville-Sully at Riverside, Oakland
  • South Winneshiek at Saint Ansgar
  • Sibley-Ocheyedan at Woodbury Central
8man

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  • Tripoli at Bishop Garrigan, Algona
  • Exira-EHK at Lenox
  • East Mills at Audubon
  • Springville at Don Bosco, Gilbertville
  • BGM, Brooklyn at Edgewood-Colesburg
  • Ar-We-Va at Fremont-Mills
  • Kee, Lansing at Gladbrook-Reinbeck
  • Southeast Warren at Iowa Valley
  • Winfield-Mount Union at Montezuma
  • West Bend-Mallard at St. Mary’s, Remsen
  • Clarksville at Riceville
  • Collins-Maxwell at Woodbine
  • Bedford at Belle Plaine
  • WACO at Central City
  • CAM at GTRA
  • St. Edmond at Janesville
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Class A Season Outlook

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PNation said:
Just trying to make a few points to various discussions since my last post.

I do know that people on the rankings committees have said they do use BC Moore as a tool, along with the Bound Power Rankings, and I believe they some make or have access to a RPI list for the class they rank as well. There is no perfect way to truly evaluate all of the teams in the state when so many don't play each other, and yes you can compare scores sometimes, but that isn't perfect either. My guess is that if you were to ask any of the ranking committee members they would have sound reasoning for how they rank it, and also probably have a few disagreements within the rankings.

When it comes to making the pods, I don't know if there is a perfect way of doing it, that is why I kind of tried to balance geography and rankings for what I put out there. I do know that the state will separate the top 4 and I think they really try to only have one of the 5-8 in each pod if possible. Like I said and has been mentioned I don't think the state is going to send Woodbury Central to Maquoketa Valley (which would be a 7 v 10 matchup) when there are some matchups that make more sense geographically and still are separating the powers. But, I do think they are willing to send teams 2.5 or 3 hours if it makes sense to get the right matchups. Like mentioned earlier Woodbury Central went to North Tama, I know Newman went to AHSTW and West Lyon West to both Osage and DNH a few years ago, it can happen.

I would also say pods are easier to make in Class A then in 1A or 2A.

Finally I know when it was mentioned that things seem a little bit more open some are like West Hancock and Saint still need to be the favorite, and I completely agree. But, for a few years there is seemed like no matter what we were getting West Hancock and Grundy, this year I still am not betting against West Hancock, but I look at the top 8 or so and kind of see this.

West Hancock: Still very good, well coach, and physical, but I have watched some film and they just aren't this unbeatable force like they have been.

AC/GC: I really am concerned about their defense, they have athletes, and a good, but I could see them losing before the dome.

Saint Ansgar: Kind of the same as WH, very well coached, physical, but don't have maybe the depth that they once did.

Lisbon: Super fast, not the most physical, and I have questions about their district. But if they can get to the dome, their speed could be an issue.

Tri-Center: Kind of came out of nowhere, but have looked impressive, and the loss to AHSTW isn't a bad one.

Gehlen: I kind of question the strength of D1 as well, and while I think Woodbury Central is a good win, it has became less impressive.

Maquoketa Valley: I can't figure out the loss to Cascade, but that was week 1, and they have been pretty dominate since then on both sides of the ball, but I think there a bunch of unknowns.

Pekin: Kind of the same as Lisbon, big questions about the strength of schedule. But, they can put up points.
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I appreciate your time and effort on this forum! I love to banter about hs sports. I agree with you in the field being open. I do think that a team like WH or SA always seem to succeed at the dome because of their commitment to the run. Many throwing teams go down there, especially in the lower classes, and struggle because of the dumb overinflated brand new footballs required to use (yes that's an excuse but have been a part of it first hand as well) So a team like Tri Center if they could make it with a young Soph Q may struggle down there if things like that bother him.

Being from NWIA I have seen D1 and D8 pretty frequently and can give some insight for those who care for the top teams:

Gehlen is a WH knock off with their style of play this season but wouldn't have near the defensive prowess if they were to meet. Q and RB are special runners. Their D struggles against teams that throw it a little bit giving up over 20 points to a bad South O'Brien where the back up Q went 10/14, 20 to a 1 win Akron team and obviously 21 and 26 to Woodbury and Sibley respectively. Both of these districts are top heavy with the bottom being very bad. Gehlen should have no issue with St. Albert, other than they like to throw it quite a bit.

Woodbury Central is a shell of itself with a young quarterback figuring things out, only 51% completion, but does not put the ball in peril much with only 2 INT. They have a workhorse in Butler at RB and he's a fantastic MLB as well. I have a hard time believing they will be back at the dome but Coach Bremer is top tier. I think this game vs Sibley is the most interesting in this side of the state by far

MMCRU is a very balanced team on O with a young quarterback throwing at a strong 70% completion. He doesn't have many TD's so that tells me that he takes the safe option frequently rather than taking shots but I have only seen them play one time this season. Also to note: this team has not lost a game since multiple guys came back off either ineligibility or misconduct of some kind but haven't really played anyone of note either since then besides maybe Sibley.

Sibley-Ocheydan This team goes as the Q goes. He does not have a high completion percentage (45%) but he lives by taking the big shot. He is a small but very athletic Q that throws a nice deep ball. He is also their leading rusher at almost 7.7 YPC. He is nearly the only senior that plays on the team so they could be even better next year if they can find a suitable Q but they are a boom or bust team and I think that they could get Woodbury on Friday.

Hartley Melvin Sanborn This new coach should get a ton of credit for what he has done with this group, bad district or not. However, they are not talented in the slightest and are in for a world of hurt come Friday night with their draw at West Hancock.

I do not know a ton about Logan Magnolia or Tri-Center as they are quite a ways south, other than they both like to throw the ball around with again, young Q's (must be the year to start Sophs @ Q in these districts) Tri Center's Q especially is a special athlete and is a fantastic baseball and basketball player as well so big games shouldn't bother him too much.

We going to do a pick-em again this year ? :)
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Just trying to make a few points to various discussions since my last post.

I do know that people on the rankings committees have said they do use BC Moore as a tool, along with the Bound Power Rankings, and I believe they some make or have access to a RPI list for the class they rank as well. There is no perfect way to truly evaluate all of the teams in the state when so many don't play each other, and yes you can compare scores sometimes, but that isn't perfect either. My guess is that if you were to ask any of the ranking committee members they would have sound reasoning for how they rank it, and also probably have a few disagreements within the rankings.

When it comes to making the pods, I don't know if there is a perfect way of doing it, that is why I kind of tried to balance geography and rankings for what I put out there. I do know that the state will separate the top 4 and I think they really try to only have one of the 5-8 in each pod if possible. Like I said and has been mentioned I don't think the state is going to send Woodbury Central to Maquoketa Valley (which would be a 7 v 10 matchup) when there are some matchups that make more sense geographically and still are separating the powers. But, I do think they are willing to send teams 2.5 or 3 hours if it makes sense to get the right matchups. Like mentioned earlier Woodbury Central went to North Tama, I know Newman went to AHSTW and West Lyon West to both Osage and DNH a few years ago, it can happen.

I would also say pods are easier to make in Class A then in 1A or 2A.

Finally I know when it was mentioned that things seem a little bit more open some are like West Hancock and Saint still need to be the favorite, and I completely agree. But, for a few years there is seemed like no matter what we were getting West Hancock and Grundy, this year I still am not betting against West Hancock, but I look at the top 8 or so and kind of see this.

West Hancock: Still very good, well coach, and physical, but I have watched some film and they just aren't this unbeatable force like they have been.

AC/GC: I really am concerned about their defense, they have athletes, and a good, but I could see them losing before the dome.

Saint Ansgar: Kind of the same as WH, very well coached, physical, but don't have maybe the depth that they once did.

Lisbon: Super fast, not the most physical, and I have questions about their district. But if they can get to the dome, their speed could be an issue.

Tri-Center: Kind of came out of nowhere, but have looked impressive, and the loss to AHSTW isn't a bad one.

Gehlen: I kind of question the strength of D1 as well, and while I think Woodbury Central is a good win, it has became less impressive.

Maquoketa Valley: I can't figure out the loss to Cascade, but that was week 1, and they have been pretty dominate since then on both sides of the ball, but I think there a bunch of unknowns.

Pekin: Kind of the same as Lisbon, big questions about the strength of schedule. But, they can put up points.
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Yep22 said:
You just complained about a rankings committee.. I'm just providing data from a source that's usually pretty accurate year in and year out. I trust the BCMoore model. I wish the small classes would also use the RPI model still and no matter what if you had to travel then travel. Play games on a Saturday if you have to. I remember in 2019 WC had to travel to North Tama (3.5 hour trip) for the quarter finals because they were 4 and 5 in the RPI. I think that's the best option for playoffs.
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BCMoore is not accurate in my opinion as too many flaws. They have Lisbon #1 and Pekin # 5 in class A and as I have explained that district might be the worst in the state as those two teams pounded the other teams and then Lisbon beats Pekin by 14 I think. The two teams that they played in non district were a combined 1-15. Three of the top six teams according to bc moore, Lisbon, Pekin and Maq V have a sched strength of 55-58 and 53 out of 58 total teams. The ranking committees of each class are made up of two former coaches and a person of the press along with members of the IHSAA, and I know a few of the press people and they would only vote for teams in their area because if they succeed more press to cover. The committees are listed on the IHSAA site for each class. The bottom line is no computer is going to pick them as the best way to rank teams is the eyeball test and before anyone says you cant go to every game to see teams, well yes you can its called hudl and you can watch any team you need to as many times as you need to right at your computer or phone, because if your going to be on the committee and they are going to use your rankings just have the courtesy to watch teams and games to see just how good they are. Your Bellevue example is pretty good at 6-2 and only loses to two teams that are a combined 14-2 and those two loses were to higher class teams yet Bellevue sits 24 on BC Moore behind two teams that they beat in North Linn at 11 and Starmont at 16 as well as 3 other teams that are 4-4.
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billywayneluck said:
Was talking about this with some of my Aub friends this weekend.
Smart thing is for auburn to sit on freeze for a bit, settle for some 7 win seasons and going to music city bowl every year. Buy time for a home run hire and make the switch then.
Freeze seems to be recruiting well so the next dude will have a base to work with year 1. But firing every 2 years will do exactly as you say - nobody will want to move to the pasture to coach. Unless they want to exchange two years of farmer hate for a $20mil buyout and retire. 🤣
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Some of my buds were comparing Spurrier's 1st year (1990) to the Freeze show going on now and how 'coaching and scheme' make up for lack of talent. I had to step in and school that muther fvcker on the talent Galen Hall left SOS (10 NFL players from '90 went to the NFL; TWO all-americans).... so there's that.

Let's face it.... Auburn hasn't had any decent recruiting since 2019... maybe longer. gustard never was good at this, Harsin absolutely sucked at it, and Freeze walked into a roster that Vanderbilt would have said 'er... no thanks'. EVEN WITH the NIL, I've not seen a shyttier OL than we have right now, and top that off with a Div II-A QB who thinks he's smarter than the coaches and runs the play HE wants to regardless what the HC calls.

CHF is building the program back the right way, but when your entire starting defensive backfield is either SO or FR, this is what you get. Hugh & Crew didn't suddenly forget how to coach... they're just playing the hand they're dealt. Next year will be better, but it's going to take another good recruiting year before we're back in the mix.
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GOPANTHERS23 said:
Sure I look at bcmoore but he isn’t everything so you can stop pressing one set of rankings so hard. Last I knew a computer didn’t have eyes but I could be wrong in this day and age 🤷‍♂️😂. Also not sure if a week 5 loss is considered a recent loss but sure. I’d take Wapsie Or Bellevue over Woodbury that’s my opinion. Bcmoore is just a computer not facts either. So just because bcmoore says so don’t make it so lol that’s probably why it can be an argument.
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You just complained about a rankings committee.. I'm just providing data from a source that's usually pretty accurate year in and year out. I trust the BCMoore model. I wish the small classes would also use the RPI model still and no matter what if you had to travel then travel. Play games on a Saturday if you have to. I remember in 2019 WC had to travel to North Tama (3.5 hour trip) for the quarter finals because they were 4 and 5 in the RPI. I think that's the best option for playoffs.
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Yep22 said:
I mean if you believe in BCMoore's rankings your talking about a Bellevue team who is ranked 24th in the latest rankings (lowest 6-2 team) and a Wapsie team that took a recent loss to a 4-4 North Tama team. I agree Woodbury isn't looking great right now but they also have two quality losses, both to 7-1 district champs who haven't loss to a class A opponents so I don't get this argument. BCMoore had Madrid at 10.
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Sure I look at bcmoore but he isn’t everything so you can stop pressing one set of rankings so hard. Last I knew a computer didn’t have eyes but I could be wrong in this day and age 🤷‍♂️😂. Also not sure if a week 5 loss is considered a recent loss but sure. I’d take Wapsie Or Bellevue over Woodbury that’s my opinion. Bcmoore is just a computer not facts either. So just because bcmoore says so don’t make it so lol that’s probably why it can be an argument.
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GOPANTHERS23 said:
Wouldn’t bet against those 2 at the end just pointing out A is wide open more than usual because unlike most years these top teams have more flaws you can expose.
You know most of the people don’t take the time to actually watch film or put in any more effort than they have too. Just like you were saying with tri center, Bellevue has 2 very quality losses, both are to district champs I believe and one is a 2a school. So not sure how they didn’t slide into number 10 over Woodbury. It’s doesn’t make much sense because Wapsie or Madrid should have slide in at 10 over a downwards trending Woodbury team. Just shows the effort put forth from the rankings committee.
I agree never going to get the best 4 unless they send schools wherever need to be.
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I mean if you believe in BCMoore's rankings your talking about a Bellevue team who is ranked 24th in the latest rankings (lowest 6-2 team) and a Wapsie team that took a recent loss to a 4-4 North Tama team. I agree Woodbury isn't looking great right now but they also have two quality losses, both to 7-1 district champs who haven't loss to a class A opponents so I don't get this argument. BCMoore had Madrid at 10.
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troutstamp1 said:
I feel pretty confident at the end of the day two teams will stand out yet again and thats WH and SA, they control the lines of scrimmage and eat up clock like no other, ACGC scores allot of points but they have also given up a ton of points. Using the rankings is ok for pairings but is is also flawed to the point where it doesn't take in strength of sched and you have a few people that do the rankings that I guarantee don't watch enough film or talk to enough people to know who is better than others. You take a team like Tri Center with an early season loss but that loss to a hell of a 1A school and all of a sudden they aren't ranked and takes them all year and 7 straight wins to climb the ladder and they may be a top 1 or 2 team. Your never ever going to get the top 4 teams in the dome unless each team has to travel across the state for matchups.
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Wouldn’t bet against those 2 at the end just pointing out A is wide open more than usual because unlike most years these top teams have more flaws you can expose.
You know most of the people don’t take the time to actually watch film or put in any more effort than they have too. Just like you were saying with tri center, Bellevue has 2 very quality losses, both are to district champs I believe and one is a 2a school. So not sure how they didn’t slide into number 10 over Woodbury. It’s doesn’t make much sense because Wapsie or Madrid should have slide in at 10 over a downwards trending Woodbury team. Just shows the effort put forth from the rankings committee.
I agree never going to get the best 4 unless they send schools wherever need to be.
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HONKifUvCOACHED4BAMA said:
That’s been their name (to me) for decades. But to your point, yes. It’s hard to watch AU going down the drain. The worst part is there’s nothing they can do. If they fire another coach after two years NO ONE worth a shite will coach there. NO ONE.
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Was talking about this with some of my Aub friends this weekend.

Smart thing is for auburn to sit on freeze for a bit, settle for some 7 win seasons and going to music city bowl every year. Buy time for a home run hire and make the switch then.

Freeze seems to be recruiting well so the next dude will have a base to work with year 1. But firing every 2 years will do exactly as you say - nobody will want to move to the pasture to coach. Unless they want to exchange two years of farmer hate for a $20mil buyout and retire. 🤣
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GOPANTHERS23 said:
Most wide open we have seen it in quite a while. Even the top dogs this year have question marks, such as schedule strength. I think we all can agree Britt and Saint Ansgar hasn’t played anyone outside of each other, SA vs Osage solid matchup about it. Britt with a double overtime win over a 2-6 team shows flaws even if it was early in the year. Same with AcGc with a few of the games they played, have flaws. This year I think almost any of the top A schools can take the other out on any given night.
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I feel pretty confident at the end of the day two teams will stand out yet again and thats WH and SA, they control the lines of scrimmage and eat up clock like no other, ACGC scores allot of points but they have also given up a ton of points. Using the rankings is ok for pairings but is is also flawed to the point where it doesn't take in strength of sched and you have a few people that do the rankings that I guarantee don't watch enough film or talk to enough people to know who is better than others. You take a team like Tri Center with an early season loss but that loss to a hell of a 1A school and all of a sudden they aren't ranked and takes them all year and 7 straight wins to climb the ladder and they may be a top 1 or 2 team. Your never ever going to get the top 4 teams in the dome unless each team has to travel across the state for matchups.
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Hooper2021 said:
Well thought out. I think a team that could throw a wrench in is Sibley. They played Gehlen Catholic and MMCRU both to very tough games. I think if they upset Woodbury, that's who will go to Britt. Woodbury coaching staff has great experience this time of year but they are not the same Woodbury team of the past. Still give the edge to the Wildcats though.

I know you separated for this purpose but I think we do see more 1vs2(or 3) from same district just based on the geography of the teams, especially those that are not both in the top 10 or so. IE MMCRU to Gehlen (20 miles). Earlham to ACGC (35 miles)

Any other 3's you see as a better than 25% chance to pull an upset?
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It would not shock me and it wouldn't be an upset if # 3 North Linn beats # 2 Pekin. A few interesting matchups Earlham at Mt Ayer, huge test for both teams. Another is Starmont at Lisbon, I have not been on the Lisbon wagon because of their district it will be interesting to see how they handle a team that plays power run football
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