Who do you feel will be playing for the state title this year?
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Regina on whatever side they are on. I think South Winn will be at the dome, and would be my second pick, but if they are on the same side as Regina - have to take the Regals.. So, on the other side - I will go with West Lyon (I don't see another team from Dist.1 or 2 beating them). They will have to play the winner of District 7 to get in the final. Possibly FDSE, Manson or possibly Ogden.
Question - How do they determine who plays who at the dome? Is it always East vs. West? If so, they should switch it up every two years like they do the districts. Like this year have the winner of Dist 1/2 play the winner of Dist 3/4 and the winner of Dist. 5/6 play the winner of Dist 7/8. Then in two years mix them up again.
Question - How do they determine who plays who at the dome? Is it always East vs. West? If so, they should switch it up every two years like they do the districts. Like this year have the winner of Dist 1/2 play the winner of Dist 3/4 and the winner of Dist. 5/6 play the winner of Dist 7/8. Then in two years mix them up again.
I've heard that it could be different this year, but the state has not yet released how they're gonna pair the brackets.
If you take out geography as a factor, then you could pair those districts together for the Final 4 and just say that it's separate from the games before the semies. You wouldn't be able to call it north vs south or anything like that. If they wanted to do that then they'd have to redo the districts.
They could also treat the final 4 like the state basketball tournament and pair teams based on overall record/points (sos), etc.
I have no idea if they'll actually change it from east vs west this year.
If you take out geography as a factor, then you could pair those districts together for the Final 4 and just say that it's separate from the games before the semies. You wouldn't be able to call it north vs south or anything like that. If they wanted to do that then they'd have to redo the districts.
They could also treat the final 4 like the state basketball tournament and pair teams based on overall record/points (sos), etc.
I have no idea if they'll actually change it from east vs west this year.
I really hope the state gets rid of the whole east vs west thing. Sure, it's an easy way to set up brackets but does it actually pair the best two teams in the state against one another? I doubt it.
Make it similar to basketball, like others have stated above. This would allow, for example, Regina and West Branch to play against each other for a championship. (I'm using these two because they were previously mentioned and it provides a good example of my idea of change)
Make it similar to basketball, like others have stated above. This would allow, for example, Regina and West Branch to play against each other for a championship. (I'm using these two because they were previously mentioned and it provides a good example of my idea of change)
This would only work once teams got to the dome, and who is to say that two top-rated teams don't meet in the Qtrs before? You still run that risk of not getting the "best of the best" at the dome, just as it's always been.
So even if you have the 4th best team to reach the dome playing the best team in the semies, you may not actually have THE 4th best team (not that you can really prove who the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th best teams truly are since a lot of times, they don't play each other, and face different competition. There's some where you know and some you could argue, but it's not all that clear-cut from top to bottom. And it never is.
I'd be fine with them "re-seeding" teams once they get to the dome and not just having it be one big bracket with each region bringing in a representative (which I think is being contemplated for basketball btw....), but then how do you seed them, so that you get your perfect 1v4 and 2v3 set-up? Just look at the state basketball tournament with all the complaints about the seeding process for that sport.
There isn't a perfect solution. All you can do is find what works best.
So even if you have the 4th best team to reach the dome playing the best team in the semies, you may not actually have THE 4th best team (not that you can really prove who the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th best teams truly are since a lot of times, they don't play each other, and face different competition. There's some where you know and some you could argue, but it's not all that clear-cut from top to bottom. And it never is.
I'd be fine with them "re-seeding" teams once they get to the dome and not just having it be one big bracket with each region bringing in a representative (which I think is being contemplated for basketball btw....), but then how do you seed them, so that you get your perfect 1v4 and 2v3 set-up? Just look at the state basketball tournament with all the complaints about the seeding process for that sport.
There isn't a perfect solution. All you can do is find what works best.
Assuming they leave the playoff format alone, I'll go with a rematch. Regina is as close to a lock as your can get, and I think St. Edmond could be better this year. Harvey was a very good player, but I think the offense might be better off without him. O'Tool and Faiferlick (going off of stats for him) were both quite a bit more explosive than Harvey, who was a classic bruiser back. Giving more carries to the guys who are a threat to score every time they touch the ball should make the offense a lot more dynamic, IMO.
I'd like to agree with you, but don't underestimate the loss of Harvey's value both as a blocker at FB and a disruptive force on the DL.
A staple of a good Coach Tighe team is a strong fullback and they'll have to find someone to replace Harvey, at the very least, as a capable blocker at the position. But beyond that, going back to 2006, St. Ed's was led in rushing or rushing TDs either by fullbacks or converted fullbacks in 6 of the last 8 years.
But having the majority of the O-line return along with a few younger kids who could step in this year, and almost all of their other offensive producers from last year is going to help. And it'll be interesting to see what they can do with another year under their belt.
I definitely know Harvey's a big loss defensively, especially since St. Ed also lost Burbank up front. And I might be underestimating his impact as a blocker; I only saw the Gaels play at the Dome last year, so I certainly don't have a large sample size to pull from. But I'm definitely interested to see what O'Tool can do with a heavier workload this year; that kid is something special.
Either way, I definitely still think St. Ed is the best team in the west half of the state (although they'll definitely have to go through a tough district schedule to prove it).
This post was edited on 8/21 9:17 PM by tm3308
Yeah I think D7 is a district where their 4-seed could give a few 1-seeds a tough game.....and there's still gonna be two fairly decent teams left out of the postseason on top of that. Woodward Academy was the only one of the 7 that missed the postseason last year.
Just found this on the 2A board, though this was posted back in January. Not sure how this is gonna work, and it'll be interesting to see coaches' reactions considering they potentially won't know who their next opponent is until the state tells them. Of course, again, you have to take all this with a grain of salt since it was published back in January.
The IHSAA discontinued sister districts for 8-player through Class 3-A and implemented a 125-mile limitation for first-round postseason games. It also did away with preset playoff brackets, which means postseason pairings will now be determined after each round of the playoffs with geography taken into consideration.
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