weight loss

[se xc1]

I need some help. My son is a frosh, so we are new to all these rules. If a wrestler bumps between 2 weights, do they only get the 2 pounds allowance for the lower weight? For example, a kid wrestles 106 and 113. In January they can weigh in at 108 for 106, but must be at 113 for 113. Is that correct? Thanks.
This post was edited on 12/26 10:42 AM by se xc1

 

[OILCHECKER]

No. If he has already made 106, then he has earned the 2 lb allowance for 113 as well (since he has technically made 113 already). Now, if he had been wrestling at 113 & then was moving down to 106, he would need to make 106 before getting the two lb allowance.

 

[se xc1]

Thanks. I think the other kicker is if he weighs in at 113 and wrestles 120. I think in order to do that, he has to make scratch at 113 in order to still be able to wrestle 106.

 

[niawrestling]

The big things is if he takes his 2 lb allowance at 113 (weights 114 or 115) he can no longer be eligible to compete in the 106 weight class for post season. So if he ever thinks he may end up going back down to 106 he can't take his 2 lbs at 113.

 

[WOTM]

not true. Wrestler get 2 pounds at either and it will not effect his decent plan if he has made scratch at 106. After break that wrestler can weigh 108 and wrestle 106 or weigh in at 115 and wrestle 113 and will not cause decent plan to change.

 

[Jako18]

I think what the question was if his kid weighed in at 115, could he weigh in at 108, which he cannot.

 

[paxregis]

Originally posted by Jako18:
I think what the question was if his kid weighed in at 115, could he weigh in at 108, which he cannot.

If you weigh in at 113.1 you would lose 106. Once you take the allowance at a weight you are declaring that as your lowest weight.

 

[69camaro]

Not true. WOTM is correct.If he made scratch weight at 106 in December then in January he gets the two lbs at both weights. If he chooses to weigh in at 113 he gets two pounds just like his opponents do.

 

[se xc1]

Can he weigh in at 115 for a dual/tourney bump up and wrestle 120 and still go to 108 for sectionals??

 

[miille83]

unless rules have changed, a wrestler can't wrestle more than 1 weight class above where he intends to wrestle at the end of the year. wrestling at 120 should make him ineligible for 106, thereafter. but, his coach should also know this and be able to keep him from losing the option of 106. not sure why a 106er would even consider 120, anyway. in the upper weights, 14 lbs isn't much, but at that weight, 14 lbs is a lot to be giving away. those kids are probably 20 lbs heavier, during the off season, if not more. he'd be giving away a ton of strength. 106 and 113 are close enough to allow him to not be too over matched at 113, in the strength department. plus, the weight loss schedule likely wouldn't allow the drop from 120 to 106 in less than about 3 weeks, given limits on weekly weight loss. he'd have to be weighing in at 113-115, to be able to go back down quickly.

 

[OILCHECKER]

Originally posted by miille83:
unless rules have changed, a wrestler can't wrestle more than 1 weight class above where he intends to wrestle at the end of the year. wrestling at 120 should make him ineligible for 106, thereafter. but, his coach should also know this and be able to keep him from losing the option of 106. not sure why a 106er would even consider 120, anyway. in the upper weights, 14 lbs isn't much, but at that weight, 14 lbs is a lot to be giving away. those kids are probably 20 lbs heavier, during the off season, if not more. he'd be giving away a ton of strength. 106 and 113 are close enough to allow him to not be too over matched at 113, in the strength department. plus, the weight loss schedule likely wouldn't allow the drop from 120 to 106 in less than about 3 weeks, given limits on weekly weight loss. he'd have to be weighing in at 113-115, to be able to go back down quickly.

It isn't the weight you wrestle at, it's the weight you weigh-in at that matters.

 

[se xc1]

Thanks guys. He would wrestle at 120 because he can't beat out the 106 or 113 pounders and 120 is open. He has a winning record at 120, so why would we leave that open if someone fills in the spot adequately?

 

[paxregis]

Originally posted by paxregis:

Originally posted by Jako18:
I think what the question was if his kid weighed in at 115, could he weigh in at 108, which he cannot.

If you weigh in at 113.1 you would lose 106. Once you take the allowance at a weight you are declaring that as your lowest weight.

I looked up the rule (cut & pasted here):

Wrestlers who have certified their minimum weight class before January 1 will receive the 2-pound
growth allowance after January 1. Wrestlers who have not certified their minimum weight class by January 1
will receive the growth allowance the first time they weigh-in after certifying. The first time a wrestler uses the
growth allowance they declare their certified weight class and their intent not to wrestle at a lower weight
class. A wrestler CANNOT recertify at a weight class below their certified weight class, regardless of
what weight class their body composition assessment and/or descent plan allows them to go. For
example, a wrestler’s body composition assessment will allow him to wrestle at the 132# weight class. He
makes scratch weight at 138 pounds before January 1. Then in the first meet after January 1 uses the growth
allowance to weigh-in for the 138# weight class. He cannot recertify at 132 pounds because he used the growth
allowance for the first time at the138# weight class and declared his intent NOT to wrestle below the 138# weight
class.

By that NEW definition, if the young man has made scratch 106 and takes his two pounds for the first time after the break to compete at 106, he preserves that as his lowest weight for postseason. He could then take the allowance and weigh in up to 115 for a subsequent meet. The problem lies with the descent plan rules making it awful tough for a little guy to have enough time to get back down to 108 in time for sectionals if he were to take the two pounds at 113 in the middle of January.

 

[MRJunior]

At each weigh-in, a wrestler is eligible to weigh in for two weight classes and wrestle in three weight classes without detriment to his descent plan. Weight allowance aside for now, a wrestler who is eligible to weigh in for the 106 and 113 lb. weight classes could weigh in at 106 and either wrestle 106 or 113. If he weighed in for the 113 lb. weight class, he could wrestle 113 or 120 without affecting his descent plan or minimum, certified weight of 106.



Once the wrestler has made scratch weight at 106, he can take his weight allowance at 106 or 113 lbs. after Jan. 1 without affecting his certified weight of 106. So if he made scratch weight in December of 106, at his first weigh-in in January, he could weigh 115 and wrestle in the 113 or 120 lb. weight class without affecting his eligibility of wrestling in the 106 lb. weight class.



The next three paragraphs support this and are from an IHSAA letter to coaches and officials from last season. So you will see the weight classes are last year’s, but the idea is still the same.



Wrestlers may only compete at the weight class for which their actual scale weight qualifies them or one weight class above. In a dual meet if a wrestler’s two eligible weight classes are 135# and 140# he may weigh-in for the 140# weight class and compete at either140# or 145# without affecting his descent plan. He cannot weigh-in below 135# [weight class] and expect to compete at 145# as that is more than one weight class above the weight class for which his actual scale weight qualifies them.



Wrestlers who have made scratch weight at the lowest weight they intend to compete for the remainder of the season receive the growth allowance at any eligible weight class in which they choose to weigh-in. For example, if a wrestler has made scratch weight at 130#, he receives the growth allowance at either 130# or 135# without losing his certification at 130# or negatively affecting his descent plan. Also, he can use the growth allowance at 135# before using it at 130# with no adverse effects.



For wrestlers who have made scratch weight, and whose coaches have indicated in the NWCA on-line system they are using the growth allowance, its use is mandatory. These wrestlers must use the growth allowance for the remainder of the season. To weigh-in for the130# weight class a wrestler who receives the growth allowance would need to weigh in excess of 127#. IF A COACH DOES NOT WANT A WRESTLER TO RECEIVE THE GROWTH ALLOWANCE THEY SHOULD NOT INDICATE IN THE ON-LINE SYSTEM THAT HE WILL USE IT.
This post was edited on 1/6 8:17 AM by MRJunior
This post was edited on 1/6 8:18 AM by MRJunior