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Round 2

SEPRamFan

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Oct 12, 2007
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Ankeny Centennial vs Johnston at Ankeny Stadium - 8:30 PM
Ankeny vs Lewis Central at Ankeny Stadium - 5:00 PM
Cedar Rapids, Kennedy vs North Scott, Eldridge at Kingston Stadium - 5:30 PM
Cedar Rapids, Washington vs Cedar Rapids, Jefferson at Kingston Stadium - 8:00 PM
Dowling Catholic, WDM vs Southeast Polk at Williams Stadium
Iowa City, City High @ Pleasant Valley
Iowa City, West @ Bettendorf
Valley, West Des Moines @ Waukee
 
Just a thought regarding the west side... let's say both Ankeny's win along with Dowling and Valley. That's three 1 seeds and a 2. In round 3 does Dowling get Valley and Ankeny vs Centennial? Those matchups minimize travel the most (although travel is a non-issue) and they would seed out the final 4 teams. Or does the IAHSAA go with the option of avoiding rematches so it matches Valley with Ankeny and Dowling with Centennial?
 
Just a thought regarding the west side... let's say both Ankeny's win along with Dowling and Valley. That's three 1 seeds and a 2. In round 3 does Dowling get Valley and Ankeny vs Centennial? Those matchups minimize travel the most (although travel is a non-issue) and they would seed out the final 4 teams. Or does the IAHSAA go with the option of avoiding rematches so it matches Valley with Ankeny and Dowling with Centennial?

To kind of morph the two threads and what you said on each, here's my observations.

CB Lewis Central(7-3) @ Ankeny(9-1)
SE Polk(6-4) @ WDM Dowling(9-0)
Johnston(8-2) @ Ank Centennial(8-2)
WDM Valley(8-2) @ Waukee(8-2)

CR Jefferson(7-3) @ CR Washington(9-1)
North Scott(5-5) @ CR Kennedy(10-0)
IC High(7-3) @ Pleasant Valley(8-2)
IC West(4-6) @ Bettendorf(10-0)

Obviously all the #1 seeds are at home. And to what you said in the previous thread, they totally said to hell with avoiding rematches, or they would have paired the teams up the way I presented them.

If you look on the west side, they took the remaining team with the worst record and sent them to the team with the best. Then they took the next worst and sent them to the second best. The final two games, all the teams are 8-2. Valley and Centennial would have been a district rematch, but both Waukee and Valley had each played both of their possible opponents. Maybe not having a district rematch was the deciding factor.

On the east side, similar pairing theory. You have two teams each with an undefeated record, with no real way of determining the higher seed, so they took the two teams with the worst records and paired them accordingly. As you see again, North Scott and Bettendorf would have been a district rematch, which is probably why they went the direction they did, despite each undefeated team having played both of these opponents. With IC High and CR Jefferson having the same record, they avoid the district rematch and paired each with non-district #1 seeds.

It's different then we may have thought it was gonna shake out, but in the end, their pairing model actually makes sense.

Looking ahead, on the west side, I think CB Lewis Central/Ankeny is the lynch pin. If Ankeny wins, they would almost assuredly get the Johnston/Centennial winner. If Lewis Central wins, they would go to WDM Dowling or the WDM Valley/Waukee winner(if WDM Dowling were upset). I think the east side pairs like a bracket as I have them above. The one thing that would change things is if North Scott or IC West were to pull an upset, I would think they would get sent to play the other undefeated team in the Quarterfinals. If they each pulled the upset, I think they would flip-flop spots, where they'd be playing closer to their metro area.
 
I guess my beef isn't so much in how they match teams up, it's more in that it has become subjective and it's done behind closed doors after each round of the playoffs. To me that process tends to leave an impression that personal bias may get into the mix. I liked it better when the playoff road was mapped out from the start to finish using a pre-determined methodology of which everyone was aware. I can see your points ScrewLoose and that was likely the course they took. I'd just prefer it was more open and upfront.

In the old system based on seeding, if a low seed took out a top seed then they were rewarded with a likely easier game in the next round. In this system of reshuffling every round, the Cinderella could knock off a Valley in one round and be rewarded with playing Dowling in the next. No other sport (that I'm aware of) is done this way. Just my opinion.
 
The predetermined bracket only existed from 2008-2013. Pairing after each round looks like it's here to stay if they follow through on the 6/7 districts of eight teams plan.
 
I was thinking that they paired SEP and Dowling up to avoid an "in-district" 2nd round match-up of LC and Dowling as I would have LC as the lower seed having finished 3rd in their district (and Polk 2nd). By putting SEP w/ Dowling they have 4 "new" matchups (and yes, I realize that Waukee/Valley played week 0, but they were not district partners).

My question for the those in the know is why in the heck would they play SEP/Dowling at Williams Stadium while Valley Stadium sits empty?? (have they tried to find a parking space at Williams Stadium for a playoff game?)
 
If they had wanted to do it, they could have had 4 games with no rematch:

SEP @ Dowling
Valley @ Ankeny
Johnston @ Centennial
Lewis Central @ Waukee

As for parking for the SEP/Dowling game, in my experience Valley is not a whole lot better. Last time there they had a metal plate over the curb to get cars up into a grass area. I went up fine but when exiting after the game, my car ended up hitting the curb hard enough to tear off the rocker panel trim. Next time I'll park on the residential streets. As for why Williams Stadium, it might be a bit financial. I'd rather contribute concession sales to Des Moines East vs my biggest rival. I have no issue with Williams Stadium. Nice place to watch a game.
 
I was thinking that they paired SEP and Dowling up to avoid an "in-district" 2nd round match-up of LC and Dowling as I would have LC as the lower seed having finished 3rd in their district (and Polk 2nd). By putting SEP w/ Dowling they have 4 "new" matchups (and yes, I realize that Waukee/Valley played week 0, but they were not district partners).

My question for the those in the know is why in the heck would they play SEP/Dowling at Williams Stadium while Valley Stadium sits empty?? (have they tried to find a parking space at Williams Stadium for a playoff game?)
Iowa City laughs heartily at this question seven times a year. God forbid people have to walk a bit.
 
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