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ROUND 2 UPSET ALERT

BlameIt

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is directly on South Winn

they have not seen anybody throw the ball like NC.

Im calling NC victory
 
Originally posted by BlameIt:
is directly on South Winn

they have not seen anybody throw the ball like NC.

Im calling NC victory
South Winn passing defense has been suspect, but no team is going to outscore South Winn. If SW is going to lose they have to play a team with a stout defense that forces them to become one dimensional much like DNH did and then get some big stops or turnovers.
 
Max, I have not seen S Winn play... but can they out score the Regals if they match up down the road? Especially if their pass defense is "suspect"

I am with Blame.. I think Jayden @ Co will pass all over them.
 
Jayden Johnson had 349 all-purpose yards and 5 first half TD'S. I left the game with 5 minutes left in the 2nd quarter, and the score at that time was 41-0
 
This is all I could find for a comparison....SW beat New Hampton 18-7...North Cedar beat Anamosa in OT...New Hampton beat Anamosa 41-0. SW has a great run game and an elite passing attack.
 
I'm taking SCC over SA as my upset pick for round 2. I think SA has benefitted from a soft schedule this season and hasn't been test yet. SCC seems to be trending in the right direction the last few games. Many on here praised SA after they beat E-berg 14-0 earlier this season. We saw how meaningful that was last night as a middle of the road Western Christian blew E-berg out.


I think SW beats NC by 2 scores. NC has beaten up on some mediocre to bad teams later in the season but they struggled out of the gate barely beating Lisbon, Anamosa and a Bellevue team that got thrashed last night. SW beating DNH and New Hampton is far more impressive than anything NC has done.



This post was edited on 10/30 8:56 AM by CP84
 
Originally posted by CP84:

I'm taking SCC over SA as my upset pick for round 2. I think SA has benefitted from a soft schedule this season and hasn't been test yet. SCC seems to be trending in the right direction the last few games. Many on here praised SA after they beat E-berg 14-0 earlier this season. We saw how meaningful that was last night as a middle of the road Western Christian blew E-berg out.


I think SW beats NC by 2 scores. NC has beaten up on some mediocre to bad teams later in the season but they struggled out of the gate barely beating Lisbon, Anamosa and a Bellevue team that got thrashed last night. SW beating DNH and New Hampton is far more impressive than anything NC has done.



This post was edited on 10/30 8:56 AM by CP84
I agree SA has not been tested but I'm not sold on SCC either. They got shelled by a Madrid team team who did nothing since and barely beat South Hamilton. Also Poky was terrible and got hammered by both E'burg and SA the past two weeks much more impressively that SCC beat them. SA is not an easy place to play either.
 
I just don't see any of North Cedar's wins as impressive. Bellevue and Anamosa might have been until they both got beat up on last night (by two teams that SW beat by two scores).

If North Cedar wants to have any chance in this game they'll have to stop SW's running attack. They've given up over 6 yards a carry to the two teams they've played that are in the same area talent wise (being generous to Anamosa here, Lenoch averaged 8 per carry and I think Hageman is a more physical runner) as SW. To piggyback on what Max said, if NC wants a track meet with SW it's going to be very tough for them to win. Give me South Winn by 2+ scores.
 
MVP, I agree that SCC is not a great team either. I just believe that SA is the most overrated undefeated team. Madrid has struggled as of late but I was under the impression they still have some significant injuries.
 
St Ansgar has played the teams on their schedule and beaten them all. They are a very complete team in all phases. Some can pick them as a possible upset victim but I think they win by 3 touchdowns.
 
Originally posted by cyard31:
pour kids from Panorama have to travel 2-1/2 hours on a Monday night to IC
...but the IHSAA is saving money and time for schools.

yep.
 
It would be interesting to find out the behind closed doors conversations that led to this new district set up and play off pairings. No the standard "doing it for the kids" crap, the which coaches had the loudest voices to get some of these changes put into place.
 
Originally posted by cidhawkeye:
It would be interesting to find out the behind closed doors conversations that led to this new district set up and play off pairings. No the standard "doing it for the kids" crap, the which coaches had the loudest voices to get some of these changes put into place.
retired coach Ken Winkler still plays a large role.

Which is kind of ironic, given he is retired.
 
Its kind of funny how some people are saying that the best teams should not play each other until the dome (WB vs ICR), keep in mind at the Iowa State Wrestling tournament at times #1 meets #2 in the quarters or the semis. It is the nature of sports, to be man you have to beat the man.
 
in a lot of sports getting to state has a lot of luck involved in the bracketing/seeding. A lot of things need to fall into place.
 
Originally posted by BlameIt:

Originally posted by cyard31:
pour kids from Panorama have to travel 2-1/2 hours on a Monday night to IC
...but the IHSAA is saving money and time for schools.

yep.
Well remember when you disagreed with my pick of NOT having Bellevue playing Dike-New Hartford?.....

This is a result of that. (a chain reaction) Just sayin.

In fact, I think your actual quote was "Correction, YOU can't, but the rest of us are not going to complain about it."

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That is good that he is still very involved. I wonder what other established coaches have a voice that has been heard on these subjects. Blame you seem to be in the know on this, any insights on any other coaches that have lobbied or been part of this process?
 
Should West Lyon be on upset alert? I thought West Lyon would roll Sibley considering Sibley got beat by Cherokee. Also Western put a beat down on Emmetsburg. Beating a good team twice is tough to do!
 
Originally posted by jammer2006:

Should West Lyon be on upset alert? I thought West Lyon would roll Sibley considering Sibley got beat by Cherokee. Also Western put a beat down on Emmetsburg. Beating a good team twice is tough to do!
As a Western fan, I hate to say it, but I don't think West Lyon has anything to worry about.
Emmetsburg was so one dimensional that mom's in the stand could call the defensive sets.

West Lyon is a complete package and overpowering at the line. I think Western will be lucky to avoid a running clock.
Not sure why a team with their recent history, and just Week 1 stumble against a really good 2A team is getting minimal love here.

Will be amazed if they are not at the dome & really think they are fundamentally strong enough to hang with Regina.
 
Originally posted by VanderHoops:
Originally posted by jammer2006:

Should West Lyon be on upset alert? I thought West Lyon would roll Sibley considering Sibley got beat by Cherokee. Also Western put a beat down on Emmetsburg. Beating a good team twice is tough to do!
As a Western fan, I hate to say it, but I don't think West Lyon has anything to worry about.
Emmetsburg was so one dimensional that mom's in the stand could call the defensive sets.

West Lyon is a complete package and overpowering at the line. I think Western will be lucky to avoid a running clock.
Not sure why a team with their recent history, and just Week 1 stumble against a really good 2A team is getting minimal love here.

Will be amazed if they are not at the dome & really think they are fundamentally strong enough to hang with Regina.
There you go.
 
West Lyon was up 49-0 at halftime. The entire second half West Lyon's JV and Freshman teams played. Sibley kept their starters in the entire game and then decided to do trick plays, onside kick, cheap shot the kids, taunt them and their coaches were getting in on the act - chest bumping and handshake collaborations. Safe to say West Lyon has lost all respect for Sibley and their program (CLASSLESS). HMS was in the same boat last week against West Lyon down 42-0 at halftime. HMS kept their starters in but ran the ball the entire time, not one pass, not one trick play, not one onside kick, and their players were helping up ours and vice a versa (CLASSY).

Western is a very good football team that has good size and very athletic. West Lyon is not taking them likely and they have the kids' full attention. Should be a good one on Monday night!
 
With respect to DNH the little rose bowl is a tough place to win at.WB by at least 3 scores.That running game is a load to handle.
 
West Lyon shouldn't have too much trouble with Western. Western has to stop the power run game. They will load up the box and make West Lyon beat them w/ the passing game. Doesn't surprise me about Sibley. I can guess which assistants were in celebration mode. One was probably celebrating all the way back to LeMars!!
 
usfhawk, can you help me understand your post? You're mad at a team for running pass plays, onside kicks, and trick plays when they were DOWN 49 points in the last game of the season (and for some of them their lives)? I'm just really confused how you can determine that a program is classless for doing those things.
 
Originally posted by captainamerica18:
usfhawk, can you help me understand your post? You're mad at a team for running pass plays, onside kicks, and trick plays when they were DOWN 49 points in the last game of the season (and for some of them their lives)? I'm just really confused how you can determine that a program is classless for doing those things.
Maybe you missed the part about taunting and cheap shots?
 
Originally posted by cidhawkeye:
That is good that he is still very involved. I wonder what other established coaches have a voice that has been heard on these subjects. Blame you seem to be in the know on this, any insights on any other coaches that have lobbied or been part of this process?
Some people sure don't like change. If the old system works for them, why change it?

I salute the established coaches who had their voices heard on this issue and will have their voices heard on future issues. Again, the "established" coaches and school administrators should have a BIG say in how the state runs things.
 
I think West Branch will face a very tough test tonight. They really haven't played a tough team to this point, and to be challenged will put them in a situation they haven't faced yet this season. They didn't challenge themselves with their non-district schedule, their opposition were a combined 10-17. Bellevue was exposed as an average team. And, I suspect South Winn handles North Cedar convincingly tonight.

West Branch has ridden their starters hard this season and the short turn around may be a factor as well.

Dike-New Hartford can put up a lot of points. They've got a sophomore RB that is putting up similar rushing numbers to Lenoch. They look a little deeper than WB and they have the tradition in place where they expect to win playoff games.
Should be a great match up, and I wouldn't be surprised to see West Branch get upset tonight.
 
I just find it odd that Blame had the retired coaches name right off the bat yet hasn't had a response on any other coaches that were involved.
 
Well said. I like the way this man talks. I could not agree more. Pertaining to PineHawk that is.

This post was edited on 11/3 3:17 PM by bintrain45
 
Definitely no upset alert for South Winn tonight. Handled NC 38-14 and it would have been more than that if SW doesn't fumble twice inside of NC's two yard line. They ran for over 400 yards and didn't throw it very much due to sloppy conditions. NC did have a very impressive passing attack, but Johnson was under pressure much of the game (I think SW had 7-8 sacks and 2 ints). SW allowed NC to complete underneath passes all night and definitely played a bend but don't break style of D, which paid off perfectly.
 
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