Final Top 10
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There 7 district champs on the list, and Grundy lost to GR by 1 in the regular season and were the best 3rd place team, a flawed system kept them from the playoffs
1. Gladbrook-Reinbeck
2. Bishop Garrigan of Algona
3. Council Bluffs St. Albert
4. Saint Ansgar
5. West Sioux of Hawarden
6. Lynnville-Sully
7. Lisbon
8. Wapsie Valley
9. Montezuma
10. Akron-Westfield
This "flawed" system that was put in place in the first place was because fans kept whining about "bad teams' making the playoffs. By that definition that so many kept trumpeting every year since the playoffs expanded, Grundy Center was a bad team. I think the truly flawed system was the one that expected high school student athletes to play Week 9 on Friday, 1st Round FIVE days later on a school night, 2nd round FIVE days later again on a school night, and then the Quarterfinals FOUR days after that. If the association concern was truly about what is best for the kids, then requiring them to play 4 games in 2 weeks was asinine. They fixed that. This "broken" system is better than the previous system.
Grundy Center's 6 wins were against teams with an average record of 3 wins and 6 losses. Those are not good football teams. They lost to the only 3 decent teams they played the entire season. If they had played in a stronger district, maybe they would have a better case that they deserved to be in. But even in a top heavy district with just 2 good teams, they could not achieve a scoring margin that was good enough to make the playoffs. Everyone knew the criteria to determine the playoff qualifiers before the season started - Grundy Center was not as good as the teams that made it. Too bad. And no amount of points that your starters score in the 4th quarter against West Fork will change that.
I did see that Grundy Center won a non district game to a 2A team that only lost to Dike by 11 points. I think thats a false statement when you say they were a bad team. Newman Catholic was 4th in district 3, i believe they could have contended for 1st or 2nd in a couple other BAD districts.
We had 3 great games in the dome. All the teams that made it deserved to be there. Was this due to the new "flawed system" or was it just luck this year.
Grundy wasn't a bad team just didn't do enough to deserve to be in the playoffs. Are they a top ten? Probably not. top 15 ya probably so.
Grundy wasn't a bad team just didn't do enough to deserve to be in the playoffs. Are they a top ten? Probably not. top 15 ya probably so.
I don't think it was a great year for class a in general. After the top 10 teams or so...it's very mediocre and then just not very good at all. Too many teams with low numbers being forced to play freshmen and sophomores who just aren't ready to play. Essentially, for a lot of class a schools, it's JV playing on Friday nights. Don't know what the answer is. I've heard rumors of class a going away and two divisions of eight man. Don't know if that is good or bad.
I don't agree at all, i thought their were plenty of good teams in class A. What are you comparing it to Class 1a or 2a because the bottom teams in those classes are not any better. Instead of getting rid of class A witch by the way will not happen, how about making the 8 man classification tougher so more schools play 11 man. I saw plenty of 8 man teams that had 40 plus kids playing football.
Just my opinion after watching numerous games this year. So many class a schools playing freshmen and sophomores that in many instances it was jv playing varsity. Very top heavy in clas a. As for class a being eliminated? That's not my opinion, it's what I have heard from coaches and people close to the ihsaa. We will see in a few years I guess. The number of players on the team has nothing to do with classification.
So the argument that Grundy Center is good is based on:
1. They *almost* beat 1 good team
2. They beat a 3-6 team that *only* lost by 2 scores to a good team?
Why does point differential only matter when looking at who Grundy Center (and South Hardin) *almost* beat, but in district games that are far more relevant, it doesn't matter that they lost by 3 and 4 scores? Lots of cherry picking.
The 2 games that I've seen most point to as evidence for Grundy Center's quality resume are, coincidentally, the first 2 games of the season. The 2 games on the schedule that are barely more than glorified scrimmages. I can't provide much as far as an eye test, it's not like I was at every single game.
Regardless, 2016 is in the books. I'll be interested to see how Class A trends in the next few years. Maybe with declining participation, 2 different 8-player classes isn't a bad idea. I'm curious what the real differences between the top and bottom of 8-player is, both by enrollment and by quality. Even a "close" game in 8-player seems to sometimes end up being 74 - 46. With fewer players on the field, even a relatively small difference in the teams seems to make a big difference on the scoreboard in a lot of games.
Don't mean to take a lot of heat for this but I probably will the first sign of knowing a team isn't good is whether somebody is arguing whether they should be one of the top 16 teams in the state
My apologies for the last post I accidentally pushed reply to soon, I guess my point would be why should we take time tontalk about teams who were ranked approx 13-20 in the state and weren't able to make the playoffs .....bottom line is they weren't one of the top 16 teams so maybe the focus should be on teams that are actually good like WH. ST Ansgar, GR, CBSA Bishop, since those teams records were like 57-5(not sure if that's actually right but close enough)
Have a good Holiday season RBSchmitz.
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Have a good Holiday season RBSchmitz.
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