Clinton and DSM Lincoln are terrible, but CR Kennedy has played 7 of the 9 games against very solid teams and lost many of them close.
Kennedy is picked by a lot of people as a potential "upset".
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Kennedy is picked by a lot of people as a potential "upset".
I would agree in the school size aspect for CR Xavier. Davenport Assumption is about 75-100 kids smaller than Heelan and I believe about 5 years ago Assumption was only in the 250 BEDS range. Now just over 350. They have done well in football but never really been in a 4A title position.
I think Heelan would be in a similar situation because we have seen them do well in 3A playoffs and often blow out 4A teams from that area. However, beating someone like CB St. Albert or Harlan isn't in the same ballpark as trying to beat Dowling or Valley.
Assumption had its best chance in 2007 going 9-2 and getting beat both times by Bettendorf losing 21-13 in regular season and 35-14 in the playoffs to the eventual state champions.
CR Xavier(536BEDS) is bigger than Heelan(402BEDS) and Assumption(359BEDS) and thus they have much better shot at competing for Titles and have won a few.
I just don't view them with a realistic title shot, but that can be said for many teams in the bottom of 4A BEDS... North Scott fields very solid teams, but they are about 600 kids smaller than Bettendorf and 3rd smallest in 4A. I actually like that they have gone by BEDS now for 4A as a result.
I wish you could be picky and choosy with the BEDS because at the smaller classes where you don't have near as much gap as you do in 4A I think the private schools in bigger cities are definitely at an advantage. I think Regina and Kuemper Catholic could easily compete for titles in 3A for most sports. Regina is one of the largest 1A and Kuemper on the smaller end of 2A. We know Regina beat Xavier in football whom I stated should be in 4A and lost close to Solon who is also a Title contender.
1.) Heelan is now more in the 500+ range...significantly bigger than Assumption.
2.) I don't believe Heelan has ever played CB St Albert in varsity football.
3.) Heelan has had some teams that would have at least had a very good shot at the 4A title ('08 & '13).
4.) Enrollment numbers are far less important to a private school's success than they would be for a public.
Is there a "rule" regarding who will host a game between two like-seeded teams? Like "whatever team has last letter in alphabet" or something?
I was surprised that some higher ranked teams have to travel to locations having teams with lesser records and rankings.
I was surprised that some higher ranked teams have to travel to locations having teams with lesser records and rankings.
For home field first tiebreak is district finish. A team that won their district with a 4-2 record still gets to host if they play a team that finished second at 5-1.
Remember, overall records don't mean a thing for seeding/home field. Only district records. Second tiebreak is district record.
If the teams are tied with district finish and district record, you then use head to head (if the two teams played during the season). If there is no head to head, it's reverse alphabetical order for hosting (this season - in 2015 it will be regular alphabetical order).
Make sense?
This post was edited on 10/30 9:07 AM by KidSilverhair
Remember, overall records don't mean a thing for seeding/home field. Only district records. Second tiebreak is district record.
If the teams are tied with district finish and district record, you then use head to head (if the two teams played during the season). If there is no head to head, it's reverse alphabetical order for hosting (this season - in 2015 it will be regular alphabetical order).
Make sense?
This post was edited on 10/30 9:07 AM by KidSilverhair
Posted in another thread but thought it fits here as well.:
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And, if I may take a peek ahead towards next Friday:
Strong favorites to advance to the quarterfinals would be Pella, Heelan, Carroll and Xavier. I am less certain of the other four winners, although I have a good feeling about Creston and Solon. The Carlisle-Washington and Gilbert-Dallas Center Grimes games look like tossups to me.
If I'm right about those first four, surely Carroll at Heelan would be one quarterfinal (if I read the postseason manual correctly, home field for third-round games this year is determined by 1) district finish; 2) district record; 3) head to head; and 4) reverse alphabetical order). I think the winner of Solon/West Delaware would be at Xavier. After that, who knows? Somebody goes to Pella, probably Washington if they win. If Creston wins, they likely play Dallas Center Grimes, if they're a winner too. If it's Creston, Gilbert, and Washington that advance, then you could see Creston-Pella and Washington-Gilbert.
Just a lot of variables, still. If forced to make a Kreskin-esque prediction this morning, here's what I might project for next Friday (all of these are rematches, by the way, so head to head breaks any district finish/record ties):
Carroll at Heelan
Solon at Xavier
Creston at Dallas Center-Grimes
Carlisle at Pella
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And, if I may take a peek ahead towards next Friday:
Strong favorites to advance to the quarterfinals would be Pella, Heelan, Carroll and Xavier. I am less certain of the other four winners, although I have a good feeling about Creston and Solon. The Carlisle-Washington and Gilbert-Dallas Center Grimes games look like tossups to me.
If I'm right about those first four, surely Carroll at Heelan would be one quarterfinal (if I read the postseason manual correctly, home field for third-round games this year is determined by 1) district finish; 2) district record; 3) head to head; and 4) reverse alphabetical order). I think the winner of Solon/West Delaware would be at Xavier. After that, who knows? Somebody goes to Pella, probably Washington if they win. If Creston wins, they likely play Dallas Center Grimes, if they're a winner too. If it's Creston, Gilbert, and Washington that advance, then you could see Creston-Pella and Washington-Gilbert.
Just a lot of variables, still. If forced to make a Kreskin-esque prediction this morning, here's what I might project for next Friday (all of these are rematches, by the way, so head to head breaks any district finish/record ties):
Carroll at Heelan
Solon at Xavier
Creston at Dallas Center-Grimes
Carlisle at Pella
DSM Reg is reporting that Carlisle's leading rusher, McMullen, got hurt last night and missed significant portion of the game. He has rushed for over 1000 yards. Don't know injury or extent of it. If he misses next game, that won't help Carlisle's chances any. He is a stud. He's also one of Carlisle's main returners and plays on the D, I believe. But, his backup gained over a 100 yards which is a good sign for Carlisle.
Thought I'd revisit this now we are on the verge of the second round.
I think the state has a setup in place for the quarterfinals already. I see the Xavier/Waverly Shell Rock winner playing the Solon/West Delaware winner, and the Washington/Carlisle winner taking on the Newton/Pella victor. (Oh, I guess if Carlisle and Gilbert win, they might match Carlisle and Creston/Norwalk and send Gilbert to Pella. Perhaps). On the west, the only thing that could mix things up is Webster City upsetting Heelan. Since that's not likely, Heelan would face the Carroll/Sergeant Bluff Luton winner, leaving the victors of Gilbert/Dallas Center Grimes to take on the Norwalk/Creston winner.
So, my guess at the quarters - taking a wild guess at who wins tomorrow:
Solon at Xavier (although I would not be shocked to see West Delaware advance, Solon is playing REALLY well)
Washington at Pella
Carroll at Heelan
Gilbert at Creston
So who advances to the Dome? In this scenario, Pella and Heelan are almost shoo-ins. Gilbert/Creston and Solon/Xavier are tougher to call. Solon will be looking for revenge for their only loss of the year, plus their leading rusher (who didn't play against Xavier earlier) is healthy. Gilbert and Creston, I don't even know, and that's assuming Gilbert gets past Dallas Center Grimes tomorrow. Heck, I will go with the home teams.
Xavier
Pella
Heelan
Creston
This post was edited on 11/2 9:33 AM by KidSilverhair
I think the state has a setup in place for the quarterfinals already. I see the Xavier/Waverly Shell Rock winner playing the Solon/West Delaware winner, and the Washington/Carlisle winner taking on the Newton/Pella victor. (Oh, I guess if Carlisle and Gilbert win, they might match Carlisle and Creston/Norwalk and send Gilbert to Pella. Perhaps). On the west, the only thing that could mix things up is Webster City upsetting Heelan. Since that's not likely, Heelan would face the Carroll/Sergeant Bluff Luton winner, leaving the victors of Gilbert/Dallas Center Grimes to take on the Norwalk/Creston winner.
So, my guess at the quarters - taking a wild guess at who wins tomorrow:
Solon at Xavier (although I would not be shocked to see West Delaware advance, Solon is playing REALLY well)
Washington at Pella
Carroll at Heelan
Gilbert at Creston
So who advances to the Dome? In this scenario, Pella and Heelan are almost shoo-ins. Gilbert/Creston and Solon/Xavier are tougher to call. Solon will be looking for revenge for their only loss of the year, plus their leading rusher (who didn't play against Xavier earlier) is healthy. Gilbert and Creston, I don't even know, and that's assuming Gilbert gets past Dallas Center Grimes tomorrow. Heck, I will go with the home teams.
Xavier
Pella
Heelan
Creston
This post was edited on 11/2 9:33 AM by KidSilverhair
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