Just a thought after the first 5 weeks, the eastern side of the state is way down in terms of quality teams and individual talent. Don’t really see the Des Moines area play other than scores, but I have to believe that the state champ in 4A will definitely come from that area based on what I’ve seen. Cedar Falls is not even close to the same level as last year, Cedar Rapids area really doesn’t have a contender, Iowa City West is a skeleton of the last 2-3 years, and the Quad Cities area is way down in quality. Heck, Bettendorf is 4-1, but the four opponents they have beaten have a total of 4-5 wins and they might as well be running the ball versus just defense backs except against Cedar Falls. Just an observation.
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Not going to argue with much of that assessment. Having seen Bett, CF & ICW they are not on par with last years teams (IMHO), although CRK appears vastly improved and was competitive with Valley. The QCA is way down competitively but the Dub public schools seem improved.
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CF is really banged up right now.
I’m biased, of course. No excuses. They aren’t as individually talented as last year, but that should seem obvious. 7 guys all offered to play college at some level and many were three-year starters. We haven’t seen CF’s best just yet and as long as they win, they have time to continue to improve. But I agree with the assessment that the east side has a lot of work to do.
I’m biased, of course. No excuses. They aren’t as individually talented as last year, but that should seem obvious. 7 guys all offered to play college at some level and many were three-year starters. We haven’t seen CF’s best just yet and as long as they win, they have time to continue to improve. But I agree with the assessment that the east side has a lot of work to do.
Can't argue either. The power is always in the Des Moines suburbs in 4A, it seems. In the eastern part of the state- Bettendorf, CR Kennedy, Western Dubuque, Solon and Xavier could have their own power league. The bottom of 4A is absolutely awful and the top of 3A is as good as most better 4A teams. Okay, add Cedar Falls to the "good" list. Dubuque schools have good junior classes, but I don't think any Dubuque school has beaten Xavier in the last 20-25 tries. Somebody kept track and in the 1995-2008 era, when they played every year, Xavier's average winning margin over a Dubuque team was over 30 points a game.
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Not arguing with you, however CF has been better than good. No matter what conference or district they have been in they have always been in the top two.
They just secured their 23rd consecutive winning season. They have had only 6 losing seasons since 1952.
You could throw CF in the power league as they have played well against Bettendorf over the years. They are I think a combined 30-6 vs Kennedy and Xavier.
I consider CF the top two programs in the Eastern side of the State in the top 5 in all of 4a.
Agree with all of you about CF, but they are not even close to the level they were last year especially defensively and at the offensive skill positions. Bettendorf is a good team because they are always going to be good, but as we saw against CF, when they run up against a decent team they won’t be able to consistently run the ball for explosive plays like they have against the other four poor opponents. Those are the only two teams in 4A that have a conceivable chance of advancing past the 1st round on the eastern side.
Well, first off there will be more than just those two making it past the first round due to the sheer number from the east making it into the PO’s, making it to the Dome is perhaps what you meant. I’d also include CRK in the discussion this year, that’s a good team.
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What team is close to the caliber of last year? Cedar Falls has skill players, the RB position may be a question. Defensively they are actually pretty good you just have to look deeper into them as a couple injuries and not so good officiating has kept them on the field.
CF has beaten two really good teams and having a goal line stand 4times at the 4yd line after giving up a huge pass play not to many teams are going to be able to do it
I think if they don't figure the running game out they could have problems. However if anything this team had been tested in different aspects similar to Dowling over the Years where they just find ways to win
The D-Line is probably better than last year, imho. Loecher is still there, and he is throwing to everyone, not just to a Wolf. Remmert at TE is playing well. Campbell at WR as a soph is a huge weapon, as has been Hutchins. Sernett is the go-to guy.
To be honest, we’re really set at RB. Both Ostrich and Grosse at 100% are really, really good backs. First full game without Jacobson at left guard. FB out. Soph LB playing substantial time in a tight game. Starting DE Weimer out. These are not excuses, just what it is.
The O-Line has to get better and they will. CF always gets the O-Line in place year after year. Not winning 50-7 every week has people worried. They have done nothing but win and stick together. Just win and improve.
The 4A Champ will definitely come from the DSM Metro. I've seen Bettendorf, CF, and ICW all play....as of right now they aren't near Valley, Dowling, or Centennial. I would also give SEP a nod at being a slight favorite over all of those schools as well. Also on any given night Ankeny High and Waukee could beat all three of those teams as well.
So just in the DSM Metro you have 6 teams that would/could beat the 3 best out of the East. It's probably not all that uncommon due to the population advantage the DSM Metro has over everywhere else.
I keep hoping Iowa will realign the playoff format because I've seen many years where Dowling and another DSM Metro school have been head and shoulders above everyone else in the state and they have a tremendous semi final game only to have Dowling blow some Eastern school out in the Finals. I'm hard pressed to believe anything will change due to the cost to have a real playoff system implemented....but one can dream....
So just in the DSM Metro you have 6 teams that would/could beat the 3 best out of the East. It's probably not all that uncommon due to the population advantage the DSM Metro has over everywhere else.
I keep hoping Iowa will realign the playoff format because I've seen many years where Dowling and another DSM Metro school have been head and shoulders above everyone else in the state and they have a tremendous semi final game only to have Dowling blow some Eastern school out in the Finals. I'm hard pressed to believe anything will change due to the cost to have a real playoff system implemented....but one can dream....
The 4A Champ will definitely come from the DSM Metro. I've seen Bettendorf, CF, and ICW all play....as of right now they aren't near Valley, Dowling, or Centennial. I would also give SEP a nod at being a slight favorite over all of those schools as well. Also on any given night Ankeny High and Waukee could beat all three of those teams as well.
So just in the DSM Metro you have 6 teams that would/could beat the 3 best out of the East. It's probably not all that uncommon due to the population advantage the DSM Metro has over everywhere else.
I keep hoping Iowa will realign the playoff format because I've seen many years where Dowling and another DSM Metro school have been head and shoulders above everyone else in the state and they have a tremendous semi final game only to have Dowling blow some Eastern school out in the Finals. I'm hard pressed to believe anything will change due to the cost to have a real playoff system implemented....but one can dream....
Scrap District Champion, Just out them in district's and take the top 16 through the RPI and play the playoffs like any other seed 1 meets 16 and so on
I also think last year that no Eastern teams was worth a damn, but WD Dowling did blow Cedar Falls out I renember
I agree that they should do away with the East/West stuff. But...I do understand the cost associated with the possibility of team's traveling very far for 1st and 2nd round games in a true seeded playoff format.
As for your comment about Dowling/CF last year....I think it's more glaring about the East/West talent discrepancy when Dowling can beat the best team in the East with their best offense player and the best offensive player in the state getting 6 carries....LOLOLOL......CF had one of the best team's they've put on the field in recent memory and still couldn't beat Dowling....
I don’t think that quite classifies as a blowout, when CF led most of that game, and Dowling only won by 6 points. Dowling never led until very late in that game. That wasn’t so much a blowout as an escape. Easily the closest win by Dowling of any on this current run they’ve been in. All of Dowling’s championships in this run have been by no less than 13 points, last year notwithstanding.
Trust me to him it's a blowout.
When the streak for Dowling ends, the world will end for most and someone will end up getting fired.
They don't really have a Easy/West split anymore considering CF played 4 Western Teams in the playoffs last year. I think Praire was in bracket of Western teams as well.
I wish they would actually go back to the old point system and pre-2000 playoffs. They had really good match-ups.
The problem with that was Dowling/Valley still would meet in the 1st Round or Qtrs..
Sidenote: Valley nor Dowling ever won a Title when it was that way.
So I'm guessing unless people know some history neither team wants that playoff system
If anything, the fact that Dowling needed four overtimes to escape Bettendorf, and never led CF until very late in the game, tells me that the gap between Dowling and everybody else might be closing somewhat.
I will say that eastern Iowa is somewhat hurt by the opening of Iowa City Liberty, thus thinning out the talent pool at Iowa City West, who had been one of the better teams in eastern Iowa for a long time. Not to mention Xavier dropping to 3A. It certainly seems CF and Bettendorf are destined to be the two top dogs in the east for the foreseeable future.
So....let me see if I am understanding this correctly. You think last year because Dowling needed multiple OT's to beat Bettendorf and "escaped" with a 6 point win against CF that the gap between East/West is "closing somewhat"??
You don't think if Dowling had a healthy Jayson Murray who rushed for over 2,000 yards and had close to 30 TDs then they would have won by more??
Let's be real, Dowling was missing Murray who accounted for 65% of their rushing offense and over 40% of their total offense. He accounted for over 40% of their TDs too. The fact that Bettendorf or CF couldn't beat a team without a player who made such an impact is a glaring statement that Dowling was much better than both of those teams at full health.
If you want to pacify yourself or the kids that "you almost beat Dowling" and "the gap is closing" for the East is your right. But, let's look through the lens of logic and be rational about things.
It's very tough for me to say this as I am not a Dowling fan. I have been adamant on here that it's definitely unfair that a parochial school gets to play against normal public schools when it comes to playoffs. But, anyone with an IQ above a potato can see that Dowling's offense in the last two games last year was seriously hampered due to Murray's injury.
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A parochial school does not give you a automatic state title. Look at Waterloo Columbus, you could close that school like they did Waterloo Central in 1988 and that talent would not help East, West, Cedar Falls .
I honestly thought East would shutdown it's Football program a few years back cause they did not have enough players most years.
You combine Wat East and West West and the state would really have a jugernot.
No, not accidentally. It was just a case of you can't outpiss a skunk
Excuse me? Jayson Murray played the whole Bett game and it took three completely botched officiating calls (so bad it deserves an asterisk beside it) for Dowling to... yes "escape". CF also had DHS on the ropes, so to say they were "much better" would be to deny reality.
The only call that I didn't agree with in the Bettendorf/Dowling game was the Dowling WR getting a TD on a incomplete pass.
However you still have to give Dowling credit they found away to won both games
Listen ... there is no more East/West divide in the playoffs.
While the state doesn’t do a true 16v1 bracket by seeding in the first round (they also consider travel for the first round, maybe a little for the second), by the time you get to the Dome it’s pure seeding by RPI. It’s not going to be an East/West final by design any more.
Last year, for instance, in 3A Xavier played Lewis Central in the semifinal, then played Western Dubuque (from their own district!) in the championship. RPI #4 plays RPI #1 in one semi, with RPI #3 playing RPI #2 in the other. Geography has nothing to do with it. It’s absolutely possible (depending on how the state brackets the first two rounds) that you could end up with 3 DSM metro teams going to the Dome.
Now back to your regularly scheduled (and probably somewhat justified) critical dismantling of Eastern Iowa 4A football ...
While the state doesn’t do a true 16v1 bracket by seeding in the first round (they also consider travel for the first round, maybe a little for the second), by the time you get to the Dome it’s pure seeding by RPI. It’s not going to be an East/West final by design any more.
Last year, for instance, in 3A Xavier played Lewis Central in the semifinal, then played Western Dubuque (from their own district!) in the championship. RPI #4 plays RPI #1 in one semi, with RPI #3 playing RPI #2 in the other. Geography has nothing to do with it. It’s absolutely possible (depending on how the state brackets the first two rounds) that you could end up with 3 DSM metro teams going to the Dome.
Now back to your regularly scheduled (and probably somewhat justified) critical dismantling of Eastern Iowa 4A football ...
It's not totally out of the realm of things that SC Heelan could have to travel a few hours for a 1st round game or Qtr final game, then have to come back for the semis and the finals.
So I really don't buy the travel theory anymore, more so because all playoff games are now played on the weekends.
It was a issue when they played those games on Monday and Wednesday.
Look at district's, they were set up in the 80s
To 1) Fill a teams Schedule and 2) Limit travel.
I see teams in all classes traveling just as far for a regular season game as a playoff game.
It's true there is no True East/West divide however either through the RPI and the Playoff rules of previous meeting and travel time pretty much make the brackets look that way.
I can see the Waterloo/CF, Cedar Rapids and Iowa City Schools as most likely the teams to get put in a Western Bracket
There is no EAST/WEST brackets. 1st round 7 District Champs will play a (Geographically close by) 7 Non District Champ from a different District.
Top 2 RPI non District champs play each other 1st round. 2nd round games end up being geographically close due to the way they set up round 1. Final 4 is seeded with RPI. You will see 1 true "East" Team survive and advance to the Dome. Likely due to the D3/D4/D5 1st round pairings
There is no EAST/WEST brackets. 1st round 7 District Champs will play a (Geographically close by) 7 Non District Champ from a different District.
Top 2 RPI non District champs play each other 1st round. 2nd round games end up being geographically close due to the way they set up round 1. Final 4 is seeded with RPI. You will see 1 true "East" Team survive and advance to the Dome. Likely due to the D3/D4/D5 1st round pairings
Nobody is saying there is a East/West split
I am pointing out that several schools in the West and East. Will be playing in what looks like a all East/West type Bracket.
Cedar Falls played all West teams and Praire play one I think. Personally next to the RPI being the dumbest thing to be in High School Football, it's the Playoff Brackets A-D.
It's like funneling cattle into a shoot. Get away from that theory aswell. Didn't Bettendorf play Valley in the regular season a few years back?
So I don't see what the problem is, you are already playing regular season games with longer travel.
I am discussing both playoff and regular season. Even if they do a "Power Rating" it's still garbage. Like look at this year for example. Ankeny High is probably the 4th or 5th best team in the West and they were leading pretty much the entirety of the game against CF, who is classified as the best in the East. Although they lost, they still held their own. I'm not sure there is much the state could do to help this. I guess it will just be all hypothetical in terms of who you believe is actually the 2nd best team in the state is......
2017 Playoff Matchups:
1st Round:
Ankeny Centennial, 31 over Waukee, 21
Bettendorf, 28 over Pleasant Valley, 14
Cedar Falls, 28 over Cedar Rapids Prairie, 7
Dowling Catholic, 45 over Urbandale, 3
Iowa City West, 49 over Cedar Rapids Washington, 7
Johnston, 14 over Southeast Polk, 7
Lewis Central, 21 over Valley, West Des Moines, 14 (OT)
North Scott, 50 over Davenport Central, 0
2nd Round:
Ankeny Centennial, 44 over Lewis Central, 14
Bettendorf, 31 over North Scott, 21
Dowling Catholic, 13 over Johnston, 10
Iowa City West, 27 over Cedar Falls, 10
Semi Finals:
Dowling Catholic, 44 over Ankeny Centennial, 7
Iowa City West, 23 over Bettendorf, 0
2016 Playoff Matchups:
1st Round:
Ankeny Centennial, 34 over Ankeny High, 24
Cedar Rapids Prairie, 66 over Waterloo West, 35
Cedar Rapids Washington, 35 over Western Dubuque, 21
Dowling Catholic, 41 over Johnston, 6
Iowa City High, 40 over North Scott, 14
Iowa City West, 24 over Bettendorf, 17
Valley, West Des Moines, 45 over Lewis Central, 7
Waukee, 52 over Southeast Polk, 21
2nd Round:
Ankeny Centennial, 14 over Valley, West Des Moines, 10
Cedar Rapids Washington, 30 over Iowa City High, 14
Dowling Catholic, 36 over Waukee, 14
Iowa City West, 38 over Cedar Rapids Prairie, 21
Semi Finals:
Dowling Catholic, 41 over Ankeny Centennial, 17
Iowa City West, 53 over Cedar Rapids Washington, 7
2015 Playoff Matchups:
1st Round:
Bettendorf, 43 over Iowa City West, 18
Cedar Rapids Kennedy, 49 over North Scott, 7
Cedar Rapids Washington, 42 over Cedar Rapids Jefferson, 21
Dowling Catholic, 50 over Southeast Polk, 21
Iowa City High, 13 over Pleasant Valley, 7
Johnston, 28 over Ankeny Centennial, 10
Lewis Central, 17 over Ankeny High, 7
Valley, West Des Moines, 42 over Waukee, 7
2nd Round:
Bettendorf, 31 over Iowa City High, 7
Cedar Rapids Kennedy, 21 over Cedar Rapids Washington, 7
Dowling Catholic, 43 over Lewis Central, 0
Valley, West Des Moines, 20 over Johnston, 17
Semi Finals:
Cedar Rapids Kennedy, 31 over Bettendorf, 14
Dowling Catholic, 24 over Valley, West Des Moines, 6
So over the last three years the seeding has just come out randomly that East plays East and West plays West.....or...did they just change it in 2018? Still when I looked at 2018 the only thing I saw that was different was that SEP and Dowling could have met in the Finals. It still looked like the mass majority of the East played against other East schools in the 1st and 2nd rounds.
2017 Playoff Matchups:
1st Round:
Ankeny Centennial, 31 over Waukee, 21
Bettendorf, 28 over Pleasant Valley, 14
Cedar Falls, 28 over Cedar Rapids Prairie, 7
Dowling Catholic, 45 over Urbandale, 3
Iowa City West, 49 over Cedar Rapids Washington, 7
Johnston, 14 over Southeast Polk, 7
Lewis Central, 21 over Valley, West Des Moines, 14 (OT)
North Scott, 50 over Davenport Central, 0
2nd Round:
Ankeny Centennial, 44 over Lewis Central, 14
Bettendorf, 31 over North Scott, 21
Dowling Catholic, 13 over Johnston, 10
Iowa City West, 27 over Cedar Falls, 10
Semi Finals:
Dowling Catholic, 44 over Ankeny Centennial, 7
Iowa City West, 23 over Bettendorf, 0
2016 Playoff Matchups:
1st Round:
Ankeny Centennial, 34 over Ankeny High, 24
Cedar Rapids Prairie, 66 over Waterloo West, 35
Cedar Rapids Washington, 35 over Western Dubuque, 21
Dowling Catholic, 41 over Johnston, 6
Iowa City High, 40 over North Scott, 14
Iowa City West, 24 over Bettendorf, 17
Valley, West Des Moines, 45 over Lewis Central, 7
Waukee, 52 over Southeast Polk, 21
2nd Round:
Ankeny Centennial, 14 over Valley, West Des Moines, 10
Cedar Rapids Washington, 30 over Iowa City High, 14
Dowling Catholic, 36 over Waukee, 14
Iowa City West, 38 over Cedar Rapids Prairie, 21
Semi Finals:
Dowling Catholic, 41 over Ankeny Centennial, 17
Iowa City West, 53 over Cedar Rapids Washington, 7
2015 Playoff Matchups:
1st Round:
Bettendorf, 43 over Iowa City West, 18
Cedar Rapids Kennedy, 49 over North Scott, 7
Cedar Rapids Washington, 42 over Cedar Rapids Jefferson, 21
Dowling Catholic, 50 over Southeast Polk, 21
Iowa City High, 13 over Pleasant Valley, 7
Johnston, 28 over Ankeny Centennial, 10
Lewis Central, 17 over Ankeny High, 7
Valley, West Des Moines, 42 over Waukee, 7
2nd Round:
Bettendorf, 31 over Iowa City High, 7
Cedar Rapids Kennedy, 21 over Cedar Rapids Washington, 7
Dowling Catholic, 43 over Lewis Central, 0
Valley, West Des Moines, 20 over Johnston, 17
Semi Finals:
Cedar Rapids Kennedy, 31 over Bettendorf, 14
Dowling Catholic, 24 over Valley, West Des Moines, 6
So over the last three years the seeding has just come out randomly that East plays East and West plays West.....or...did they just change it in 2018? Still when I looked at 2018 the only thing I saw that was different was that SEP and Dowling could have met in the Finals. It still looked like the mass majority of the East played against other East schools in the 1st and 2nd rounds.
It just changed last year. Before that, yes, it was East vs West in the final. With the use of RPI for qualification/seeding last year, that system is no more.
You still have general “groupings” by geography in the first round (and a little in the second), just for travel purposes .. but the final four are seeded strictly by RPI.
You still have general “groupings” by geography in the first round (and a little in the second), just for travel purposes .. but the final four are seeded strictly by RPI.
And looking at last year’s brackets, of the four one was all central Iowa (Valley, Dowling, Ankeny, and Fort Dodge) and one was all eastern (IC West, CR Kennedy, Bettendorf, Pleasant Valley). So you were guaranteed to have one eastern team and one central team make the Dome.
The other two brackets were mixed - Cedar Falls was in with Indianola, Waukee, and Urbandale, while Prairie got bracketed with Ankeny Centennial, Johnston, and Southeast Polk. The possibility existed for three central teams and one eastern; but it was also theoretically possible to have a semifinal with Prairie, Cedar Falls, Bettendorf, and just one central Iowa team.
I imagine the state will likely continue to have at least one bracket with all eastern teams, to prevent the possibility of an all-DSM metro semifinal bracket - but I think the odds of brackets permitting three central teams to make the Dome is going to continue.
The other two brackets were mixed - Cedar Falls was in with Indianola, Waukee, and Urbandale, while Prairie got bracketed with Ankeny Centennial, Johnston, and Southeast Polk. The possibility existed for three central teams and one eastern; but it was also theoretically possible to have a semifinal with Prairie, Cedar Falls, Bettendorf, and just one central Iowa team.
I imagine the state will likely continue to have at least one bracket with all eastern teams, to prevent the possibility of an all-DSM metro semifinal bracket - but I think the odds of brackets permitting three central teams to make the Dome is going to continue.
Thanks for the help!
I wasn't sure when it went into place. Thanks for the help!
It’s interesting to note that with the new tweaks to the playoff system for this year, if a situation arises this year like what happened last year, where Iowa City West was seeded higher than Bettendorf, in spite of Bettendorf winning the head-to-head contest, where the two ended with the same record, this year, Bettendorf would have gotten that #4 seed, and Iowa City West the #5 by virtue of Bettendorf’s head-to-head win, which now supersedes RPI.
Head-To-Head Competition
Two updates were approved in 2019 to allow head-to-head competition to supersede RPI in select situations following Week 9 competition.
Head-To-Head Competition
Two updates were approved in 2019 to allow head-to-head competition to supersede RPI in select situations following Week 9 competition.
- If two teams are side-by-side for the final spot in the RPI rankings and have played head-to-head in the regular season, the winner of the regular season contest will receive the at-large spot.
- If two teams are side-by-side in the final RPI rankings and played in the regular season, the winner of the head-to-head contest will receive the higher playoff seeding.
I want to make sure I understand.... central Iowa plays close against east = holding their own.
East goes multiple OT’s against Dowling = shows just how dominant the west is
Makes sense
East goes multiple OT’s against Dowling = shows just how dominant the west is
Makes sense
I would guess you're correct in this assumption, namely because 24 of the 42 teams in 4A were considered "Central/Western" teams previously. With that, you're mathematically looking at nine or ten "central/western" teams qualifying every year. And that would lead right into your statement.
It took me a long time figure out what “side-by-side” meant in this context. I first assumed it meant “tied” with identical RPIs, but that made no sense with the “supersede” language. Finally clicked for me - it means two teams that are immediately adjacent in the RPI list, with no other teams between them. To me, that’s not “side-by-side,” so the wording is confusing, but that appears to be what the state means.
For instance, Team A finishes as the 16th qualifier in overall RPI, at, let’s say, .5332. Team B, right behind them on the RPI list at .5298, defeated Team A during the regular season. This change puts Team B into the playoffs instead of Team A.
“Side-by-side” is still confusing, though. The IHSAA couldn’t come up with better terminology?
It worked out that 14 of the 16 teams last year were actually on their proper seed line (in a true 1-16 bracket). Only #11 and #12 were flipped for geography.
14 or 16 is pretty high. Lucky, most likely.
But I've made this point before, the seeding, as a whole, shouldn't matter. Think of it like the "pot system" they use for seeding tennis tournaments.
A. The #1 seed is placed and the top and the #2 at the bottom.
B. Seeds #3-4 are selected randomly to meet the top two seeds in the semifinals.
C. Seeds #5-8 are selected randomly to meet the top four seeds in the quarterfinals.
D. The remaining teams are randomly selected as first round opponents.
Now, it's not exactly like this, as far as the state seeding/selecting opponents. But, in theory, the #1-2 should beat both the #3-4 seeds, otherwise, they were seeded incorrectly. Likewise, the top four should beat all those teams from #5-8, for the same reason. And so on, with the next eight.
Of course, there are geographical and district rematch considerations. Not to mention, lower seeds who get seeded higher because they're a district champion. And, of course, upsets. But really, people in here get too hung up on seed numbers and where they lie on a bracket tree.
But I've made this point before, the seeding, as a whole, shouldn't matter. Think of it like the "pot system" they use for seeding tennis tournaments.
A. The #1 seed is placed and the top and the #2 at the bottom.
B. Seeds #3-4 are selected randomly to meet the top two seeds in the semifinals.
C. Seeds #5-8 are selected randomly to meet the top four seeds in the quarterfinals.
D. The remaining teams are randomly selected as first round opponents.
Now, it's not exactly like this, as far as the state seeding/selecting opponents. But, in theory, the #1-2 should beat both the #3-4 seeds, otherwise, they were seeded incorrectly. Likewise, the top four should beat all those teams from #5-8, for the same reason. And so on, with the next eight.
Of course, there are geographical and district rematch considerations. Not to mention, lower seeds who get seeded higher because they're a district champion. And, of course, upsets. But really, people in here get too hung up on seed numbers and where they lie on a bracket tree.
I just watched the CF/Ankeny game. Not sureif we are watching the same game. Ankeny only led the game for a few minutes of the game in the 4th QTR.
CF really could have ran away with the game it untimley penalties and costly mistakes took them out of the redzone
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