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So, once again we find ourselves with the dilemma of Trump or... Although he’s not the preferred candidate, barring an unexpected event, the Trump juggernaut looks insurmountable. There’s no question Gator’s heros in the DOJ, Democrat Party and media are pushing and poking Trump getting the defensive, circle the wagon reaction. Not knowing the timing of all these out of control and politically motivated legal proceedings but it’s not out of the realm of possibility Trump is convicted of one or more federal crimes only to find himself the one pardoning….himself. I might pay to see this, only to revel in the pain of TDS afflicted wankers.
 
I’m highly hopeful he is not the nominee… that said, I would enjoy the shit out of watching those on the left freak out if he were to beat Biden. I just don’t see it happening.

I don't see anyone other than Trump being the nominee.

I don't see any way for Trump to win the general...unless we're looking at another scenario like 2016 where people vote for him secretly while publicly saying that they hate him.

Still time for things to develop before the election but that's how I see it today.
 
I don't see anyone other than Trump being the nominee.

I don't see any way for Trump to win the general...unless we're looking at another scenario like 2016 where people vote for him secretly while publicly saying that they hate him.

Still time for things to develop before the election but that's how I see it today.
I mean the only real shot is some of this stuff against Biden sticking, and even still, not sure it’ll be enough
 
I don't see anyone other than Trump being the nominee.
As of 7/10/23…I’d agree.
I don't see any way for Trump to win the general...unless we're looking at another scenario like 2016 where people vote for him secretly while publicly saying that they hate him.
Depending on where you live, as it pertains to public support of Trump…… discretion is the better part of valor.
Still time for things to develop before the election but that's how I see it today.
Agreed
 
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I don't see anyone other than Trump being the nominee.

I don't see any way for Trump to win the general...unless we're looking at another scenario like 2016 where people vote for him secretly while publicly saying that they hate him.

Still time for things to develop before the election but that's how I see it today.

The polls for Trump in the primary are simply maddening, if they are to be believed. Nobody in my relatively small circle wants Trump as the Republican nominee.
 
The polls for Trump in the primary are simply maddening, if they are to be believed. Nobody in my relatively small circle wants Trump as the Republican nominee.
Yeah, I encounter a lot of people on a daily basis and although few (thankfully) are large city progressives, most are not big Trump supporters. However, VERY damn few are feeble Joe supporters and will vote for just about anyone other than another left wing Marxist, to a person they are seriously concerned about the future of the republic.
 
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Guys - don’t fall for the polls…. Polls are created most times to get an answer the polling news agencies want. I don’t believe Trump has this sewn up…… but I think Dems want it to be Trump as he’s vastly polarizing

Keep faith
 
Guys - don’t fall for the polls…. Polls are created most times to get an answer the polling news agencies want. I don’t believe Trump has this sewn up…… but I think Dems want it to be Trump as he’s vastly polarizing

Keep faith

This is my hope as well. In 2015 I knew a lot of people that were intrigued by Trump and/or wanted him to be the nominee. I know almost no Republicans that want him to be the nominee this time around.
 
Guys - don’t fall for the polls…. Polls are created most times to get an answer the polling news agencies want. I don’t believe Trump has this sewn up…… but I think Dems want it to be Trump as he’s vastly polarizing

Keep faith

This is my hope as well. In 2015 I knew a lot of people that were intrigued by Trump and/or wanted him to be the nominee. I know almost no Republicans that want him to be the nominee this time around.
Hmm 🤔

 
Hmm 🤔


Polls like this just don’t make sense to me. Florida likes DeSantis a LOT. My BIL was a big Trump supporter previously. He lives in West Palm now and is a big DeSantis supporter and just wants Trump to go away. Lot of people he associates with feel the same way.

Obviously that’s anecdotal and a small sample size, but I simply don’t believe he has a 20 point lead on DeSantis in Florida.
 
Polls like this just don’t make sense to me. Florida likes DeSantis a LOT. My BIL was a big Trump supporter previously. He lives in West Palm now and is a big DeSantis supporter and just wants Trump to go away. Lot of people he associates with feel the same way.

Obviously that’s anecdotal and a small sample size, but I simply don’t believe he has a 20 point lead on DeSantis in Florida.
Yeah, I was caught off guard by Trump having a 20% lead in FL, if true that’s stunning.
 
Thoughts on Trump trashing Kim Reynolds today because she hasn’t endorsed Trump?
I haven’t seen the quote but I’m a big fan of Gov Reynolds and since IA is in the limelight as the first caucus/primary state, she’s probably trying to stay neutral. That being said, Trump is notorious for “you’re either team Trump or the enemy”, not an endearing feature of his.
 
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Polls like this just don’t make sense to me. Florida likes DeSantis a LOT. My BIL was a big Trump supporter previously. He lives in West Palm now and is a big DeSantis supporter and just wants Trump to go away. Lot of people he associates with feel the same way.

Obviously that’s anecdotal and a small sample size, but I simply don’t believe he has a 20 point lead on DeSantis in Florida.
Unfortunately, Trump is the OG to a lot of these hillbillies… even say, hypothetically, the election was “stolen” from Trump when Republicans had the White House, how is it going to be any different this time when he’s not already in the White House?
 
He got 70 million legit votes in 2020 and you don’t see any way of him winning?
You’re acting like this if a fair fight 🤣

No way Biden should have won. He’s a professional idiot and corrupt AF

Just like no way that single digit IQ fool Fetterman should have won. Pennsylvania and the US would be better served with an amoeba in that seat.
 
He got 70 million legit votes in 2020 and you don’t see any way of him winning?

No, I think he's less popular today than he was in 2020. If he's the nominee, the only chance I see is if people hate the liberal more.

I would vote for him over any Dem candidate, obviously. Only RFKjr would merit a look but he's a freak on the environment and a few other lib causes so I couldn't vote for him either.
 
No, I think he's less popular today than he was in 2020. If he's the nominee, the only chance I see is if people hate the liberal more.

I would vote for him over any Dem candidate, obviously. Only RFKjr would merit a look but he's a freak on the environment and a few other lib causes so I couldn't vote for him either.
Bingo
 
No, I think he's less popular today than he was in 2020. If he's the nominee, the only chance I see is if people hate the liberal more.

I would vote for him over any Dem candidate, obviously. Only RFKjr would merit a look but he's a freak on the environment and a few other lib causes so I couldn't vote for him either.
So you’re kinda saying you’d consider a centrist. Would you categorize Christie as one of those?
 
Unfortunately, Trump is the OG to a lot of these hillbillies… even say, hypothetically, the election was “stolen” from Trump when Republicans had the White House, how is it going to be any different this time when he’s not already in the White House?

What makes it more maddening is all of those hillbillies line up far closer to DeSantis on policy than they do Trump.

I don’t think Trump even wants to win, he just likes the attention from running. DeSantis has mobilized a huge ground game and is going to try to beat the Dems at the own game (early voting, mail in voting, ballot stuffing). Meanwhile Trump just goes “oh we have the votes, we won in 2020”.
 
What makes it more maddening is all of those hillbillies line up far closer to DeSantis on policy than they do Trump.

I don’t think Trump even wants to win, he just likes the attention from running. DeSantis has mobilized a huge ground game and is going to try to beat the Dems at the own game (early voting, mail in voting, ballot stuffing). Meanwhile Trump just goes “oh we have the votes, we won in 2020”.
Oh, he wants to win. That’s what drives him. Not much else does.
 
Oh, he wants to win. That’s what drives him. Not much else does.
Yeah I agree, Trump has a LOT of scores he wants to settle (mostly justifiable)….and that’s what the Democrats and swamp creatures fear the most, and why they will do anything to see it never comes to pass.
 
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What makes it more maddening is all of those hillbillies line up far closer to DeSantis on policy than they do Trump.

I don’t think Trump even wants to win, he just likes the attention from running. DeSantis has mobilized a huge ground game and is going to try to beat the Dems at the own game (early voting, mail in voting, ballot stuffing). Meanwhile Trump just goes “oh we have the votes, we won in 2020”.
He loves power now and wants to create an authoritarian government.Trumps only chance to avoid serious prison time is to win - or be pardoned. He is guilty AF and even his former lawyers know it ( they flipped to avoid indictments) and repeating Michael Cohen stay at Otisville. Same circumstances.

Early and mail in voting have been the law for 200 years . Get over it. I as well as many others do it to avoid the crowds. Most politicians vote early / absentee-

Where did ballot stuffing take place?? Link??? . So far few MAGA complaints have been taken up by ANY court because the evidence simply doesn’t exist. Those that did have resulted in disciplinary action vs the lawyers submitting false evidence.
 
He loves power now and wants to create an authoritarian government.Trumps only chance to avoid serious prison time is to win - or be pardoned. He is guilty AF and even his former lawyers know it ( they flipped to avoid indictments) and repeating Michael Cohen stay at Otisville. Same circumstances.

Early and mail in voting have been the law for 200 years . Get over it. I as well as many others do it to avoid the crowds. Most politicians vote early / absentee-

Where did ballot stuffing take place?? Link??? . So far few MAGA complaints have been taken up by ANY court because the evidence simply doesn’t exist. Those that did have resulted in disciplinary action vs the lawyers submitting false evidence.

Are you stupid? I’m literally advocating for doing whatever is legal, and bashing Trump for not.

Meant to type ballot harvesting, not ballot stuffing.
 
He loves power now and wants to create an authoritarian government.Trumps only chance to avoid serious prison time is to win - or be pardoned. He is guilty AF and even his former lawyers know it ( they flipped to avoid indictments) and repeating Michael Cohen stay at Otisville. Same circumstances.

Early and mail in voting have been the law for 200 years . Get over it. I as well as many others do it to avoid the crowds. Most politicians vote early / absentee-

Where did ballot stuffing take place?? Link??? . So far few MAGA complaints have been taken up by ANY court because the evidence simply doesn’t exist. Those that did have resulted in disciplinary action vs the lawyers submitting false evidence.
There has NEVER been mail-in voting the way it was engineered in 2020. That’s just a ridiculous assertion. Mail-in only existed for absentee ballots and were verified. This last “election” was a fvcking free-for-all concocted illegally and no one is surprised at the outcome. Jesus, gator.
 
He loves power now and wants to create an authoritarian government.Trumps only chance to avoid serious prison time is to win - or be pardoned. He is guilty AF and even his former lawyers know it ( they flipped to avoid indictments) and repeating Michael Cohen stay at Otisville. Same circumstances.

Early and mail in voting have been the law for 200 years . Get over it. I as well as many others do it to avoid the crowds. Most politicians vote early / absentee-

Where did ballot stuffing take place?? Link??? . So far few MAGA complaints have been taken up by ANY court because the evidence simply doesn’t exist. Those that did have resulted in disciplinary action vs the lawyers submitting false evidence.
Why don't you just STFU for a few days and give us a break...
 
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So you’re kinda saying you’d consider a centrist. Would you categorize Christie as one of those?

Perhaps...undecided.

I'd also consider not supporting the party with someone like Christie to send this message...."stop sending us a wolf in sheep's clothing."

The other message is, "fvck your uni-party bullshit." That message flies all over "conservatives" like BG.
 
There has NEVER been mail-in voting the way it was engineered in 2020. That’s just a ridiculous assertion. Mail-in only existed for absentee ballots and were verified. This last “election” was a fvcking free-for-all concocted illegally and no one is surprised at the outcome. Jesus, gator.
Correct
In 2020, 43% of voters cast ballots by mail and another 26% voted in person before Election Day. In 2016, 21% mailed in their ballots and 19% voted in person prior to Election Day.
 
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He loves power now and wants to create an authoritarian government.Trumps only chance to avoid serious prison time is to win - or be pardoned. He is guilty AF and even his former lawyers know it ( they flipped to avoid indictments) and repeating Michael Cohen stay at Otisville. Same circumstances.

Early and mail in voting have been the law for 200 years . Get over it. I as well as many others do it to avoid the crowds. Most politicians vote early / absentee-

Where did ballot stuffing take place?? Link??? . So far few MAGA complaints have been taken up by ANY court because the evidence simply doesn’t exist. Those that did have resulted in disciplinary action vs the lawyers submitting false evidence.
Did you early vote in Alabama?
 
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