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D-8: Clarinda/Clarinda Academy/Greene Cty/Kuemper/OABCIG/Red Oak/Shenandoah

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This will likely be a pretty boring district as far as who will win it. Kuemper will probably have the running clock in every single one of their district games. They are also the odds on favorite to win it all as 2A appears to be REALLY down this year and CK returns a lot.

However, I do think CK loses more from a lineman standpoint than many realize. Not to mention, they have a new offensive coordinator. (is this the 2nd year in a row for replacing OC?)

But that isn't really the question at the moment, although it would be good to hear about.

The real question is, who are the other 3 teams going to be that make the playoffs?

Not knowing much about this district, It would be nice if someone else could come in and give a good summary.

Based on last year, OA-BCIG was clearly the 2nd best team and then it dropped off a lot from there.


Here were the final district results

Kuemper 9-0 6-0
OA-BCIG 6-3 5-1
Greene Cty 4-5 3-3
Red Oak 3-6 3-3
Clarinda 1-8 1-5
Clarinda Acdmy 0-9 0-6

This post was edited on 8/7 1:26 PM by icu81222
 
Bored on a Saturday morning.....

Looking at Kuemper's stats and roster I've come up with a few thoughts.

Kuemper is losing some real horses and I'm not sure how much that could impact them. Their district will likely be the weakest in the state so they should have a good opportunity to experiment and figure out where everyone fits but I have to wonder how that will impact them going into the post season.

I do believe 2A is down significantly as a whole this year though. I just have to wonder if maybe Kuemper will not walk through 2A as easily as some, including me, originally thought.


They lose a large part of their offense and defensive line. Not only in #'s but in size.

42 Bach 6'5 240 DE and TE/slot
52 Bruch 6'1 300 DL and played some offensive line
63 Halbur 6'5 260 OT and I think he played some DT?
59 Gehling 6'4 225 Guard and played DL too

61 Nolting 6'2 175 Center.

Those are some large HS football players and a couple are really good athletes not only in football, but other sports.

So offensively, they lose 3 of the 5 starting O linemen and a TE type guy and then Bruch was very disruptive as a DL.
 
Now, they do return nearly all of their skill people and a lot of their top tacklers so they should still be fast and athletic.

They do lose Baumover who was their leading receiver and Pottebaum, their #2 rusher. They also lose their kicker.

Not to mention they lost their OC from last season.

I felt like CK was more of a finesse type team even though they were pretty large. With the size they lost I am curious how that will translate this season.

Maybe it will make them faster as an offense since they will have smaller, possibly quicker offensive lineman. It could hurt them against the more physical teams. In particular in the post season since they won't have been tested like other teams they hit in the playoffs.

That could be the same on defense as well but I'm not sure losing that much beef will be as positive for them.

They do return these 3

51 Peterman 6'5 205 Guard and DT
54 Brincks 6'6 220 Tackle and DE/DT
55 Niehaus 6'0 205 MLB and leading tackler


I"m not sure who they have in addition to these 3 that will replace the 4 big bodies from last year.

They return all of their linebackers who, outside of Niehaus, aren't real large but they can run. It looks like they lose a corner (Baumover) and a safety (Hilgenberg).

I'd like to hear someone address this. They have a few guys in the 205-210 range but can't really tell if how much experience or ability they have.

This post was edited on 8/10 12:09 PM by icu81222
 
Haven't heard much about D8 lately.

How do those in the know see the #2, 3 and 4 seeds turning out at this point.
 
Anyone want to take a stab at the 2, 3 and 4 seeds? Looks like 5 teams still have a shot at it. 2 of these teams will be sitting home but there just doesn't seem to be any clear indication who is better.

These teams just all keep beating each other. It's very likely that it comes down to points.

My gut says Greene County is the #2 seed as they will probably end up 3-3. They finish with Clarinda Academy and OABCIG. (Edited to remove Kuemper from week 9. Changes my predictions somewhat...)

Clarinda is 3-1 but could easily end 3-3 with games against Shenandoah and Kuemper

Red Oak is 2-2 and finishes with Kuemper and Shenandoah

OABCIG is 2-3 and finishes with Greene County. My gut tells me they are going to be staying home.


I see it this way:

2. Greene County
3. Clarinda

Shenandoah and RO playing week 9 for #4.

Anyone?





District 8

Greene County 28, Clarinda 25
Kuemper Catholic, Carroll 50, OA-BCIG 14
Shenandoah 54, Clarinda Academy 26
St. Albert, Council Bluffs 31, Red Oak 12 (ND)



Kuemper Catholic, Carroll 4 0 0 7 0 0 13.00
Clarinda 3 1 0 3 4 0 7.50
Red Oak 2 2 0 2 5 0 0.00
Greene County 2 2 0 3 4 0 -0.25
Shenandoah 2 2 0 3 4 0 -2.25
OA-BCIG 2 3 0 4 3 0 -1.40
Clarinda Academy 0 5 0 0 7 0 -13.00

This post was edited on 10/17 9:26 PM by icu81222
 
I'll bite. I have stayed off here for awhile ;)

To begin, what happened last week in Clarinda was a travesty. The boys had the game stolen from them. Any kick that crosses the goal line is a touchback. Huge momentum and field position shift. Then a holding call during a punt return on the guy rushing the punter. It seems every week they have to fight the refs. You can't blame the refs for everything, but when a team does it right and is in position to win, these calls cannot be made. There is no accountability for officials. They will be at a game tomorrow night screwing over team. If anyone was at the Clarinda game last week, feel free to chime in. /end rant

Clarinda will win 1/2
Shen will go 0/2
RO will win 1/2
GC will win 1/2 Note: They finish with BCIG not Kuemper
OABCIG will beat Greene County

If I do my math right.....



Kuemper Catholic, Carroll 6 0
Clarinda 4 2
OA-BCIG 3 3
Greene County 3 3
Red Oak 3 3
Shenandoah 2 4

Clarinda Academy 0 6

Kuemper wins it. With OA-BCIG beating Greene County, Clarinda will move into 2nd, BCIG will jump to 3rd, and Greene County moves to 4th. RO and Shen will be left sitting at home. It could get a little crazy, coming down to points as you said. Should be fun to watch!
 
Originally posted by C-Town Card:
I'll bite. I have stayed off here for awhile ;)
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2 and half months of silence is better late than never!


Originally posted by C-Town Card:

To begin, what happened last week in Clarinda was a travesty. The boys had the game stolen from them. Any kick that crosses the goal line is a touchback. Huge momentum and field position shift.
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First I have heard about this. How about some more details? Did GC run back a KOR for a huge gain?
 
I typed a long response yesterday, but it didn't go through. To keep it short and sweet: He crossed the goal line. CHS players stopped when he crossed, and started heading to the sideline. Returner kept going. Finally were able to drag him down by the shoulder pads around the 45. Facemask called on the tackle. Officials conferred, side judge said returner never crossed before being corrected by the official on the goal line. "He crossed under his own power. No touchback." They didn't miss the call, they just didn't know the rules. There was an incident on the next drive as well, but we won't go into that. Bottom line is there is no accountability for officials. These guys were a joke. They probably cost another team last night.
 
Clarinda VS Kuemper- Kuemper wins

Greene Co. VS OA-BCIG- I am going with GC

Red Oak VS Shenandoah- Shenandoah
 
District 8


Clarinda 42, Shenandoah 0
Greene County 55, Clarinda Academy 8
Kuemper Catholic, Carroll 58, Red Oak 7
Ridge View 18, OA-BCIG 9 (ND)



Kuemper Catholic, Carroll 5 0 0 8 0 0 13.00
Clarinda 4 1 0 4 4 0 8.60
Greene County 3 2 0 4 4 0 2.40
OA-BCIG 2 3 0 4 4 0 -1.40
Red Oak 2 3 0 2 6 0 -2.60
Shenandoah 2 3 0 3 5 0 -4.40
Clarinda Academy 0 6 0 0 8 0 -13.00





District 8

Clarinda at Kuemper Catholic, Carroll

This will be another blow out.

Clarinda will end up 4-2 in district play. If Greene County wins, Clarinda is the #3 seed and GC is the #2 seed due to GC owning the head to head victory. A GC loss and Clarinda is #2. See below for GC's fate.




Greene County at OA-BCIG (BCM has OABCIG as a 4.94 favorite) HUGE implications for all the teams in this game

Red Oak @ Shenandoah (BCM has Red Oak favored by 4.41)


Clarinda is guaranteed to be either #2 or #3 but it's out of their control.

A Greene County win over OABCIG vaults GC to 2nd place and Clarinda is #3.

OABCIG is eliminated and then it's just the winner of the Red Oak Shenandoah game for #4 seed.

CK
GC
Clarinda
RO/Shenandoah winner


If OABCIG beats Greene County, it gets REALLY crazy. I believe GC could end up anywhere from 3rd to 5th (and out of the playoffs, right?) depending on the points.

In that case (an OABCIG win over GC) both are 3-3 and there would be a 3 way tie with the winner of RO and Shenandoah and it comes down to points. (that's messy)



Someone take a look into this and confirm or clear it up. I know I'm missing a couple scenarios here.

My head hurts now.
 
Any idea what happens if Kuemper and Carroll High both earn a first round home game? Don't they share a field?
 
It's Carroll High's field so they get the home game. Kuemper will make arrangements with an area school to play on a field that is not being used.
 
Is the carroll field natural grass or turf?


Fields that might be probable?

Ogden
Jefferson
Boone
Lake City
Guthrie Center
CRB (are they 8 man?)
other?
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Heard today that Kuemper can't make road team travel any farther than they would have to go to get to Carroll. So Denison is out. Kuemper will have to find a field closer to Roland Story or Nevada. Not sure yet where that will be.
 
I can't imagine a school playing that night will want to host, even if they aren't at home. Jefferson would be a good spot, but I'm sure all their fans/concession stand runners/clock runners/administrators will want to go to their game.

A place I was thinking of is Perry. A 3A school and facility that won't be in the playoffs and is between Carroll and RS/Nevada (albeit south a little bit).

What about the loser of RS/Nevada? (Still a long drive for KC)

ADM currently sits in 4th, but plays Harlan, so maybe there if they fall out?

Saydel? The loser of RS/Nevada would be closer than KC.


On the 2A side, all the teams on the outs are west of Carroll or East of RS/Nevada.

Maybe East Sac. That is a smidge further for RS, and for sure further for Nevada.

Not many choices on the 1A side. Pocahontas has a fairly good sized facility, and would be a smidge further for RS/Nevada.
 
Perry. Good call. Has to be there. Probably a decent facility as well.

There seem to be a few smaller programs closer to carroll but I'm guessing they are either in the playoffs or too small to host
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Let's be honest! This district is not very good and probably will get swept with the exception of Kuemper no matter who makes it into the playoffs once they begin. As far as where Kuemper plays....does it really matter at least in the first round? They, being what they are, should handle the first round opponent with relative ease. It's not like basketball where the home court advantage is a big deal with the surroundings. 100 yards is 100 yards no matter where you play. In basketball you have different depth perceptions and surrounding such as lighting, background, rim sensitivity, etc. So, before I ramble on any more I think Kuemper will be just fine no matter where they play their first round.
 
Originally posted by IowaTopScout:
Let's be honest! This district is not very good and probably will get swept with the exception of Kuemper no matter who makes it into the playoffs once they begin. As far as where Kuemper plays....does it really matter at least in the first round? They, being what they are, should handle the first round opponent with relative ease. It's not like basketball where the home court advantage is a big deal with the surroundings. 100 yards is 100 yards no matter where you play. In basketball you have different depth perceptions and surrounding such as lighting, background, rim sensitivity, etc. So, before I ramble on any more I think Kuemper will be just fine no matter where they play their first round.
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I would agree that the rest of D8 is not very strong and likely will not win a game in the post season,

I don't think anyone was worried that Kuemper might be in danger of losing here. It is a good topic of conversation however, as you rarely see a scheduled host made to play at a neutral site. It is simply interesting.
 
I will accept my good call on Nevada/Kuemper at Perry. As an aside, that field will be used to seeing beat downs.
 
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