A step in the right direction

[BamaFan1137]

The racist left has called this bill "a license to kill black people." Of course they added color to it. It’s just what they do.

And I've mentioned this before but it bears repeating...Qualified Immunity, which police have, means that your actions have to qualify you for said qualified immunity. Unqualified Immunity, which judges and lawyers have, means that your actions don't have to qualify you....you're simply immune from prosecution while performing your job. They have FAR greater protections.

Put more succinctly, if a cop acts outside of "the color of law" (meaning the action was either unlawful or not within his or her job scope), he can ABSOLUTELY be prosecuted and sued for it. Without qualified immunity, it would be possible to prosecute or take civil action against a cop for a legitimate use of force action that occurred within the confines of the law.

How ridiculous does one have to be to not support qualified immunity, which still holds law enforcement accountable to the law? See peenace.

Ivey signs bill expanding immunity for Alabama police

The "Back the Blue" bill establishes new standards for when police are justified in the use of physical force.

www.al.com

 

[BamaFan1137]

An example of how a cop can act outside of "the color of law," even while on duty, which would likely disqualify him or her from Qualified Immunity. This is an actual ongoing case...

A repo-man is trying to reposess a vehicle. When he pulls onto the property to reposess the vehicle, the property owner steps outside with a gun and tells the repo driver to get off his property.

The repo man calls the cops and tells them what happened. The cops, who were on duty, decide to assist the repo man in reposessing the vehicle, without a judicial order to do so. They go to the property with him, set up outside on either side of the property owners door, and then the repo-man backs his tow truck up to the vehicle. When the property owner comes back outside with the gun, the cops shoot him dead.

How would this unqualify those cops from qualified immunity?

A. They had no probable cause to be there.
(Their lawyers are arguing that they were there to investigate the previous incident for Menacing.)

B. Because they had no PC to be there, they were acting as agents of the repossession company, not as law enforcement, and are therefore not qualified for the immunity.
(This too is still being debated).

If the repossession company had requested and received a Writ of Possession from a judge which would have ordered Law Enforcement to assist in said repossession, everything above changes and the cops would have been acting under the color of law.

 

[BamaFan1137]

Also, if the cops had gone to the property owners home and simply knocked on the door and asked him about the previous incident, an act which would clearly be defined as investigatory, now they have PC to be there.

In the course of that action, they could have easily negotiated with the property owner to have the vehicle lawfully repossessed. If the property owner says no then the repo company has to get the writ of possession.

The point of this novel is to show that Qualified Immunity isn't a license to kill anyone. As a cop you have to follow the law also, and you have to be performing your specific job duties to qualify. But if you're a moronic, racist Democrat, you'll just say it's a license to kill black people because you're a fcking idiot.

 

[HONKifUvCOACHED4BAMA]

Meh….. Most cops aren’t as careful (and calculating) as you are. That and the fact that many being allowed onto depleted police forces are DEI and dumb as shite.
I’m predicting a slaughter in the ghettos.

 

[BamaFan1137]

Meh….. Most cops aren’t as careful (and calculating) as you are. That and the fact that many being allowed onto depleted police forces are DEI and dumb as shite.
I’m predicting a slaughter in the ghettos.

Laws like this will help us recruit smarter people back to LE. Only morons and zealots, such as myself, would sign up for this crap as it is today.

Also, even today, you have cops who know this kind of stuff directing and controlling what the morons do.

We have solid dudes but every now and then, the question "can I do this?" scares the crap out of me.

My response is always, "if they tell you to fukt off, what are you going to do?" They've learned that my question means that they have no authority to be there so it would be stupid to subject yourself to it.

 

[Pops Masterson]

An example of how a cop can act outside of "the color of law," even while on duty, which would likely disqualify him or her from Qualified Immunity. This is an actual ongoing case...

A repo-man is trying to reposess a vehicle. When he pulls onto the property to reposess the vehicle, the property owner steps outside with a gun and tells the repo driver to get off his property.

The repo man calls the cops and tells them what happened. The cops, who were on duty, decide to assist the repo man in reposessing the vehicle, without a judicial order to do so. They go to the property with him, set up outside on either side of the property owners door, and then the repo-man backs his tow truck up to the vehicle. When the property owner comes back outside with the gun, the cops shoot him dead.

How would this unqualify those cops from qualified immunity?

A. They had no probable cause to be there.
(Their lawyers are arguing that they were there to investigate the previous incident for Menacing.)

B. Because they had no PC to be there, they were acting as agents of the repossession company, not as law enforcement, and are therefore not qualified for the immunity.
(This too is still being debated).

If the repossession company had requested and received a Writ of Possession from a judge which would have ordered Law Enforcement to assist in said repossession, everything above changes and the cops would have been acting under the color of law.

Was this in Decatur?

 

[BamaFan1137]

Was this in Decatur?

That's the one. I don't have any inside information, just what I've gleaned from the news and social media.

It doesn't sound good, obviously. Maybe there's a piece that we're missing but we've used this case to educate newer guys on what can happen if they place themselves somewhere they have no legal authority to be.

Another bad situation...a "suspicious person's" call that amounts to a person that the caller doesn't recognize walking down a public ROAD (not rode of course....duh). Walking down a ROAD doesn't amount to a criminal act. The caller wants us to make contact and ultimately get them to leave.

That puts us in a precarious position. And sadly, most of us know what makes most of these people look "suspicious."

 

[Pops Masterson]

That's the one. I don't have any inside information, just what I've gleaned from the news and social media.

It doesn't sound good, obviously. Maybe there's a piece that we're missing but we've used this case to educate newer guys on what can happen if they place themselves somewhere they have no legal authority to be.

Another bad situation...a "suspicious person's" call that amounts to a person that the caller doesn't recognize walking down a public rode. Walking down a rode doesn't amount to a criminal act. The caller wants us to make contact and ultimately get them to leave.

That puts us in a precarious position. And sadly, most of us know what makes most of these people look "suspicious."

I know people that know the cop, and he’s actually a nice dude. Power hungry, and obviously very young. I’m interested in seeing what a jury decides.

 

[billywayneluck]

On a related note. Do you ever have someone say “use your words” when you arrive on scene?

I’ve seen some of these boneheads throwing out that garbage on the interwebz and curious if it is widespread or just used in “communes” 🤣🤣🤣

 

[BamaFan1137]

On a related note. Do you ever have someone say “use your words” when you arrive on scene?

I’ve seen some of these boneheads throwing out that garbage on the interwebz and curious if it is widespread or just used in “communes” 🤣🤣🤣

No, lol.

Ask. Tell. Make. That seems to work.

 

[BamaFan1137]

That's the one. I don't have any inside information, just what I've gleaned from the news and social media.

It doesn't sound good, obviously. Maybe there's a piece that we're missing but we've used this case to educate newer guys on what can happen if they place themselves somewhere they have no legal authority to be.

Another bad situation...a "suspicious person's" call that amounts to a person that the caller doesn't recognize walking down a public rode. Walking down a rode doesn't amount to a criminal act. The caller wants us to make contact and ultimately get them to leave.

That puts us in a precarious position. And sadly, most of us know what makes most of these people look "suspicious."

Holy shit...I spelled road, rode....F'n twice. 🙄

So perhaps math is my strong suit???

 

[dhetiger]

Holy shit...I spelled road, rode....F'n twice. 🙄

So perhaps math is my strong suit???

Use the edit feature so you don't make the rest of us look like tards for not calling you out on it.

 

[BamaFan1137]

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[BamaFan1137]

Use the edit feature so you don't make the rest of us look like tards for not calling you out on it.

Done...and I was super slick with it.

 

[Konigstiger]

Holy shit...I spelled road, rode....F'n twice. 🙄

So perhaps math is my strong suit???

Always has been.

 

[BamaFan1137]

Always has been.

I'm not retarded but I like rocks.