4A: Average margin of defeat last night
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Here you go kid....get you ass kicked. Enjoy!
It's about the kids getting an opportunity.
It all depends, since the districts are not balanced well you have a few 3 &4's better then 2's last night a 3 seed beat a 2 seed by double digits, so under the new format they don't even make the playoffs. That district is a bitch ( Dowling, Johnston, Lewis Central and SC East) so you're saying only take the top 2? Maybe some at large picks?
Another great example is 3A Creston kills Harlan the #1 and I think Carroll #3 beats Glenwood (?) so not so fast to say the games are a waste of time, just ask Urbandale how they feel today.
Another great example is 3A Creston kills Harlan the #1 and I think Carroll #3 beats Glenwood (?) so not so fast to say the games are a waste of time, just ask Urbandale how they feel today.
across all classes there are 19 teams moving on that wouldn't have been in the playoffs under next year's system. I'll bet they were happy to have the opportunity to compete. Next year, we will be back to having meaningless games in most districts over the final 2-3 weeks of the season. Bummer.
Carroll was actually the 2 seed and Glenwood the 3 - although Harlan, Dallas Center-Grimes and Glenwood all had 5-1 district records and tied for the lead (and Glenwood is a great example for you, as they were 8-1 and would have stayed home with a 16-team playoff field).
But there were a few 3A games where the home team lost Wednesday - Harlan, as you mentioned, also Heelan, Independence, and Washington. 4 seed Waverly Shell Rock lost at Xavier by only 7 and were inside the Xavier 15-yard line in the last two minutes. 3 seed Clear Creek Amana lost at Maquoketa by just 6, and 3 seed Algona lost by only a point.
4A is just not big enough or deep enough for a 32-team field (hello, 1-8 Davenport North, here's your parting gift and thanks for playing) but the other classes will have some pretty good teams sitting at home with a 16-team field. Just the way it is.
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I would say keep it the way it is in 1A-3A with 32 qualifying. There were some upsets and there are some good teams. When they go back to 16, there will be some teams sitting at 7-2 sitting out because they may have 2 district losses, which is sad. Plus if you are in a "loaded" district you may end up 6-3 and miss it. Just sad because those teams could upset someone and make a run. I would also include to start the season a week earlier. I mean the 2nd last week in August I realize is hot, but they play in it anyways.
4A just cut it to 16 and be done with it. Let them play a game and then have a week off or something. 4A there is some really good football played and then there is some really BAD football. I would say top 16 get in and that's it. But also this year with the "districts" there were some good districts and some bad districts as well.
I would say instead of taking teams out individual districts for 4A, just take the top 32 in regards to records. So that way you don't have a 1-8 or 2-7 team getting in. I mean there were some 3-6 teams that got left out.
Kidsilver said "4A is just not big enough or deep enough for a 32-team field (hello, 1-8 Davenport North, here's your parting gift and thanks for playing) but the other classes will have some pretty good teams sitting at home with a 16-team field. Just the way it is."
I think this is the key point. 4A is just a different problem. It is almost like we should talk A-3A as one issue and 4A as a different issue. Worse is that the 4A issue is going to continue to get worse as the really big schools keep getting larger than the smaller schools.
No magic answer.
I think this is the key point. 4A is just a different problem. It is almost like we should talk A-3A as one issue and 4A as a different issue. Worse is that the 4A issue is going to continue to get worse as the really big schools keep getting larger than the smaller schools.
No magic answer.
I would assume they keep the same semis/finals schedule they have now. Quarterfinals will still be on a Friday night, then Semis on Th-Fr-Mo with Finals either Th-Fr or Fr-Sa.
This is why I have been opposed to the state's lame ass district qualifying policy from the beginning. Rewarding a team for one victory is what was the most wrong with breaking 4A into districts. Two times a team at 1-8 made the playoffs. Stupid. Davenport North qualifies by beating Davenport Central, another 1-8 team. In the other five-team district, Davenport West goes 0-4 and 3-6 overall. Nothing to get excited about. However, they beat said Davenport North the first week of the regular season AND they had two more wins overall. But because Davenport North was lucky enough to be in the same district as Davenport Central, who Davenport West also beat, they get to go to the playoffs? Again, stupid. Ottumwa went 4-5 overall, sitting at home. Waterloo West, 3-6, at home. Not saying that either of them were necessarily deserving either, but they were more deserving than Davenport North. The wild card/at-large berths SHOULD take care of most of that crap next year.
You can probably look at the 32 team 4A playoff format as a failed experiment...by the ihsaa. Ottumwa and Waterloo West did not deserve a playoff berth either. You have show some competitiveness in your district imo to make that claim. I agree with what I have read on other threads or on this one, that there are huge disparities between the smaller isolated 4A football programs and the growing suburban high schools in iowa. I don't agree that there is better football at the 2A or 3A level. They can play kids on both sides of the ball because their opponents are doing it and stay competitive. At the 4A level you consistently see teams with less then 35 kids on the sideline at games facing teams with plus 50? I think the IHSAA needs to expand or contract the number of 4A teams to either add more teams to give the smaller 4A programs additional district members they can compete with or equalize the overall numbers per classification. Imo the biggest obstacle for the 32 game playoff format is not the number of Friday nights available but the availability of the Uni Dome.
Yep. If they could have an extra week to use the UNI dome for the semies and finals, that would in turn eliminate the short time between the first 3 rounds and a lot of people's main complaints go away.
Oh and yes, everyone should've said that 32 teams for 4A was ridiculous from the start.
guys it looks like a 3 seed ( CBLC) just got done knocking off a 1 seed tonight by 10 points and is in the final 8. Would not happen next year under the new rules unless you take some at large teams
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