Best player in eight man?
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He doesn't even play offense anymore from what I have heard, I hear the coaching staff at dB will often times save players for one side of the ball to keep people fresh because of the large amount of kids that go out, they are able to do that, it's smart in my opinion, less injuries and more battery life!
Sawvel is a defensive specialist. He is tough to block, fills well, and is a great open field tackler. He just finds the ball and makes tackles. When he makes a hit, you can hear it and almost feel it in the stands. He's got that something extra that can't be taught. The kid is a lot of fun to watch.
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Well thankfully that's not a choice the DB fans have to make. I'm a firm believer games are won in the trenches and because Smith is a lineman who plays both sides of the ball he would be harder to replace. Smith forces opponents to double team him, allowing others to make plays. Sawvel would be tough to replace as well, but the Dons are blessed to have several good linebackers right now, although there would be a definite drop off to the next player in.
I think the biggest thing the Dons have going this year is a group of hard nosed kids who have been in Coach Yoder's system for several years now. We have several coaches on this staff who could be head coaches elsewhere. They may not have a Hogan or a Svoboda, who were both exceptional talents, but they do have solid players at every spot and enough depth to rotate fresh players in and wear teams down. Neither the depth of players or the depth of coaches is common at an 8 player sized school.
I think the biggest thing the Dons have going this year is a group of hard nosed kids who have been in Coach Yoder's system for several years now. We have several coaches on this staff who could be head coaches elsewhere. They may not have a Hogan or a Svoboda, who were both exceptional talents, but they do have solid players at every spot and enough depth to rotate fresh players in and wear teams down. Neither the depth of players or the depth of coaches is common at an 8 player sized school.
Girres had 310 total yards with six touchdowns this week. I also saw on quickstats he averages 50.3 kickoff returns this year.
I have played against Bosco a few times now, and watched them a hand full of times this year and last. Smith is a beast and is probably the one of the best lineman I've lined up against. Sawvel is a good player but don't even think he's the next best kid on that team. Not sure of his name but number 19 on their team is a baller, he was everywhere on the field every time I watched them play. On the offensive side aside from Smith Is probably the best blocker on the team, ran hard, and has great hands. On defense he had picks in almost every game I watched, and has a real nose for the ball. The Mangrich kid on the team is another player that could be a stand out player on any other team not as deep. Bosco has a real deep team and will probably make another solid run at another championship.
So Bosco has three kids on this thread now? How good would those players be if they weren't all on the same team? Would they really be the best player in eight man?
Mr. Trump number 19's name is Spencer Bruess, and the kid can definitely play ball. He's a 4 year starter for bosco's team that has played in 2 state title games. Cornhusker I would agree with Trump, that any 3 of these kids could be considered as top 8man players in the state. Not saying they are the best players in the state, but all three could play ball at the next level. And gobillsgo, yes I believe that Bosco is the best 8man team in the state. They have a large senior class that has been in coach Yodars system for 4 years now finishing state runner up, state champions, and quarter finals last season barely loosing without their starting qb. This Bosco team is deep, and play great team football.
Honestly number 19 is not a player to watch, he cracks under pressure if you would have watched the game last year in the quarter finals, you would she,he got burned Multiple times including on the game winning 4 and go route, yes don't get me wrong he is a good player but when the time comes he cracks
I would have to agree from what I saw in the quarters last year he did not impress me, I saw he got burnt deep multiple times, also he didn't have a good offensive game either not taking anything away from the kid he is a good athlete but if you can't come up big when it matters that's a problem
He plays for Don Bosco though so he's one of the best players in eight man.
You guys actually couldn't be any more wrong about this kid. I've watched him play footballl and baseball for 4 years now,and he's the kind of player that always comes through with a big play when you need one. I will agree that he did get burned on the game winning play in the quater final game,but to judge him on one play is foolish. He arguably was the best defensive player on the field that night. Not here to debate it though,just glad to have him on our team!
A lot of the players on here have proved themselves to be wonderful athletes and produce on the field. It was nice to finally see film on Girres, because I've heard his names multiple times on this site! To throw a name into the mix, I believe Terrell Grant is one of the better players in the state as well. Yes, his team isn't the greatest, but he still puts up the numbers. If he were surrounded by a better line or even more athletes, things could be even better. I've watched him for years, and he's only grown. He leads the state in tackles, and he is fifth in the state in total yards(rushing and passing). I've said the same thing for the past year, and hope he gets more exposure.
I would be really excited to see Terrell grant on a powerhouse team and then see what he can do, the kids a great athlete!
Thank you! That's what I always wondered as well. I can't wait to see what the future holds for him! I'm glad he's able to make an impact on the field and others are able to notice.
I would have to agree with you boscoblueandgold, although I didn't get to watch the quaters from last year. We knew for the most part they were going to run behind him, and smith, and we still could stop them. Just like throwing guys names out that do great things on the field that usually go unnoticed. Everyone always wants to throw stats out there, but let me tell you there's many great players out there that go unnoticed that make those stats possible. Just my 2 cents, wish I was still out there on Friday nights!!
Im just going to toss this out there. The competition on the east side of the state is nothing compared to what is on the west. I'd be willing to say 4 of the top 5 teams in 8 man are from the west. Maybe even all 5. NF GTRA MMC and WBM are without a doubt top 5 teams. Almost forgot FM in there. This is probably why kids from DB look so good every year. They play teams nowhere near the talent level of the powerhouses in the west. Example: HLV (east) was destroyed by NF (west) last year. Same would happen this year. Don't mean to be disrespectful, just think it's pretty crazy how much deeper the competition is on the west. No comparison at all. Rant over. Now I'll answer the question. Girres probably is the best player in the state. Spect (MMC) and wolterman (NF) are also big time difference makers
Totally agree with you Johnny on the depth of the field in the west. I'd say that has been fairly clear for several years. I also think not facing better teams more often hurts Bosco in the post season. But I don't agree that that's the only reason DB kids look good. Clayton Plowman was one of the nations most prolific runners, and he ran all over the teams out west. Bosco pretty much shut him down excluding one 60 yd run in the Dome. Hardly anybody talked about Dalton Becker throughout the season a couple years ago, until he lived in Exira's backfield in the second half of the title game. You never know who's gonna handle who until you play it out.
There are several great kids out there worthy of mention in this thread, but just living and playing in the west doesn't grant entitlement. There's plenty of weak competition east and west. It really all comes down to just a few teams in the end. Enjoy the kids playing and have a great season.
There are several great kids out there worthy of mention in this thread, but just living and playing in the west doesn't grant entitlement. There's plenty of weak competition east and west. It really all comes down to just a few teams in the end. Enjoy the kids playing and have a great season.
I think Don Bosco has proven over the last 3 years they are the exception to the East as they have proven to be one of the really good teams in state year after year. Head and shoulders the best team east of I35 right now and until someone on that side of the road knocks them off they will continue to be. I think what Johnny was getting at is that each year Don Bosco rolls almost week in and week out in the east against mostly below average teams. If they were in the west they would have much more closer games throughout the year as well as possibly a loss or two depending on who they play as the competition level is much deeper than the east. As far as the year you are referring to with Plowman in the semi's, in my eyes, don't take that game more serious than it needs to be. I think the consensus opinion going into that game was Adair Casey had fed on poor competition all year and were in for a world of hurt which was proved to be exactly right. That Adair Casey team should be your example of teams looking better than they are by playing bad teams each week, not necessarily Don Bosco.
I would agree with this statement 100%. Back when I was in high school until now the West has always been the more dominant side. So the last 8 years. A lot of the state championship games were played before the dome IMO. I agree with the names you stated as well for the top athletes.
I totally agree high 90. That was my point, plenty of weakness in the west as well. We don't know who is who until some better head to head match ups. I think we are saying the same thing in different ways. I don't think HLV is a bad team at all. Still a top tier team east or west. Maybe not a top 5 team, but certainly a top 10.
There has been plenty of good head to head matchups in district two this year.
Saw on twitter tonight Girres rushed for a TD, caught a TD, and returned a punt and kick for a TD in the first half! The kid can do it all!
As far as I recall, there were one or two more votes overall for Adair in that dome game a few year back. The fans from the West (as always) chose the home team and AC wasn't ready and got completely throttled. Not saying the West is weak by any means because they clearly hold talent, but Bosco has lost 2 games in what is now 3.5 years in 8-man. One of them being without a top 3 athlete in the state, and one in the championship the first year in 8-man, where an MMC team with by far the biggest line at the time, just overpowered the Dons. I think they have proved they can hang in a shootout or a low scoring game, with the "best of the west."
Why does said best player have to play at the dome? 4 of 61 teams make the dome. Thats a whopping 6% of teams. So to say a player isn't the best just because his team was part of the 94% who don't make the dome is absurd.
Best player honors usually go to players on successful teams. Not arguing that there's no good players on non-dome teams, but especially in 8-man, the best of the best tend to control games. It's always a team effort but to me, seeing who shows up in the dome solidifies who are the best players that year. Just my 'warped' view on it!
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