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‘Wind Power Fails on Every Count’: Oxford Scientist Explains the Math

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Wind power has been historically and scientifically unreliable, claims an Oxford University mathematician and physicist, with his calculations revealing the government to be pursuing a “bluster of windfarm politics” while discarding numerical evidence.

“Today, modern technology is deployed to harvest these weak sources of energy. Vast ‘farms’ that monopolise the natural environment are built, to the detriment of other creatures. Developments are made regardless of the damage wrought. Hydro-electric schemes, enormous turbines and square miles of solar panels are constructed, despite being unreliable and ineffective; even unnecessary,” Allison said in the report, published by the Global Warming Policy Foundation.


File this under the Climate Hoax bullshite...

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Well, it’s hard to judge what his basis is, or to what governmental boondoggles he refers ….. Oxford is of course Great Britain, and if he’s talking England, then he’s spot on, as England has crap wind power on the global map. But Scotland, Wales and off shore should be reasonably good power density for wind for GB.

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Well, it’s hard to judge what his basis is, or to what governmental boondoggles he refers ….. Oxford is of course Great Britain, and if he’s talking England, then he’s spot on, as England has crap wind power on the global map. But Scotland, Wales and off shore should be reasonably good power density for wind for GB.

The truth is often in the middle
True. If your country happens to sit in area with consistent jet stream winds, no problem. For a country larger than a gopher, not so much.
 
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Well, it’s hard to judge what his basis is, or to what governmental boondoggles he refers ….. Oxford is of course Great Britain, and if he’s talking England, then he’s spot on, as England has crap wind power on the global map. But Scotland, Wales and off shore should be reasonably good power density for wind for GB.

The truth is often in the middle
I think he addresses that point here:

The scientist calculated that, at 100 percent efficiency, if the wind blows at 10 meters per second (about 22 mph), the power is 600 watts per square meter. Hence, to deliver 3,200 million watts, the same output as Hinkley Point C—a planned zero-carbon nuclear power station in England—there would need to be 5.5 million square meters of turbine swept area. :eek:

“That should be quite unacceptable to those who care about birds and to other environmentalists,” Allison wrote.

The actual performance of the technology is much worse than the calculations made based on 100 percent efficiency, he said.

“Because the power carried by the wind depends on the third power of the wind speed, if the wind drops to half speed, the power available drops by a factor of 8,” he said. “Almost worse, if the wind speed doubles, the power delivered goes up 8 times, and as a result the turbine has to be turned off for its own protection.”


Given the wind speed / power available are inversely proportional, I don't think it matters about wind density. Even with models using 100% efficiency (impossible) the numbers don't add up. Throw in issues with wildlife, underwater batteries, and a slew of other problems make this power production a boondoggle on its own.
 
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All I know is they’ve put a CRAP ton of those ugly-arse pinwheels where I grew up and it’s a complete blight on the landscape……BUT, the farmers are happier than pigs in 💩 because they pull in appx $30k/yr/pinwheel lease on the couple of acres they sacrifice to the energy company. Were it not for the EXTREMELY generous tax incentives they would be naught.
 
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All I know is they’ve put a CRAP ton of those ugly-arse pinwheels where I grew up and it’s a complete blight on the landscape……BUT, the farmers are happier than pigs in 💩 because they pull in appx $30k/yr/pinwheel lease on the couple of acres they sacrifice to the energy company. Were it not for the EXTREMELY generous tax incentives they would be naught.
Correct. It is unsustainable w/o gov't incentives. Same for Ethanol fuel. Doesn't work and never will unless someone (us taxpayers) are footing the bill.
 
say it ain't so...

Wind power has been historically and scientifically unreliable, claims an Oxford University mathematician and physicist, with his calculations revealing the government to be pursuing a “bluster of windfarm politics” while discarding numerical evidence.

“Today, modern technology is deployed to harvest these weak sources of energy. Vast ‘farms’ that monopolise the natural environment are built, to the detriment of other creatures. Developments are made regardless of the damage wrought. Hydro-electric schemes, enormous turbines and square miles of solar panels are constructed, despite being unreliable and ineffective; even unnecessary,” Allison said in the report, published by the Global Warming Policy Foundation.


File this under the Climate Hoax bullshite...

Gator?
Cancellation coming
 
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