What if Javon Middleton of Waterloo East Class of 2016 attended Cedar Falls
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This is just a question that needs to be asked....BTW this is Javon's father. Two coaches in his first two years. Which means no stability while Cedar Falls has had the same coach for as long as I can remember. Would Cedar Falls benefit from having one of the most dynamic and explosive players in the state on their team? And would Javon benefit from going to a school who can help him through the recruiting process and grow as a student and player? It's one thing to have talent and be a star on a losing team.... its well more received when you do it on a winning team. Let me know what you think.
My thoughts are to wait and see who East hires as Head Coach first...A Coach w/ strong connections will get your son to the next level, win or lose. I personally believe that East needs a culture change... bring in a young, enthusiastic coach that is willing to hit the grind at full stride, that can immediately gain respect and trust of the current players. Point of the matter, be patient to see who East hires before making any rational decisions...
I totally agree with this. I think you see too much school jumping any more. I think it says more for your son to be the man at his home school rather than transfer. With the right coaching hire, he could be instrumental in helping turn that program back around. But in the end, I completely understand that you need to do what is best for your son and I don't think anybody could or would fault you for doing so.
Over the past 20yrs., even though East has been down, they have sent quite a few players on to the next level. Now look at Jared Farley, was injured most of his senior year. Did not make any conference or all state teams, I am not sure if he received any other offers other than UNI. If he didn't get injured, CF would have been better, gone farther in the playoffs and most likely would have had more offers.
From a coaching standpoint at East, whoever takes the job will have their hands full. So much time will be spent on starting over again. Helping kids get to the next level might not be the top priority on the list. Hopefully colleges have been looking at this kid and will come to you.
I know CF is established, long after the season is over the Coaches are still helping players continue to play at the next level. These coaches are going to have a lot of connections with colleges at all levels. The same can be said for Waterloo West as they continue to build their program up. I don't see East finding another Kody Asmus soon.
Maybe the best thing to do, is try to attend as many football camps as possible and let the college coaches see the talent he has. Quite a few metro players have done this and had they attended a different high school it would not have mattered. So it is very possible to stay at East and get to the next level, barring a major injury. Good Luck
From a coaching standpoint at East, whoever takes the job will have their hands full. So much time will be spent on starting over again. Helping kids get to the next level might not be the top priority on the list. Hopefully colleges have been looking at this kid and will come to you.
I know CF is established, long after the season is over the Coaches are still helping players continue to play at the next level. These coaches are going to have a lot of connections with colleges at all levels. The same can be said for Waterloo West as they continue to build their program up. I don't see East finding another Kody Asmus soon.
Maybe the best thing to do, is try to attend as many football camps as possible and let the college coaches see the talent he has. Quite a few metro players have done this and had they attended a different high school it would not have mattered. So it is very possible to stay at East and get to the next level, barring a major injury. Good Luck
If I had a job to move back to Waterloo for I would be applying for the East football job. Here in the Quad Cities I would love to turn teams like Davenport West and North into football powers, but West has an issue with holding on to coaches who don't produce and North is the smallest 4A public school in a high population area with coaches that come and go like East. I grew up on the East side and that school has all the talent of any other school, but no coaching and no coaches that are able to relate to the players on and off the field.
Asmus is the only good coach they have seen from a scheme and work ethic standpoint and we saw what he did in just 2 years.
Asmus is the only good coach they have seen from a scheme and work ethic standpoint and we saw what he did in just 2 years.
Looks like Javon may have made the move to Cedar Falls? My son was at a 7 on 7 tourney today and said he met Jovan who was playing for Cedar falls.
Javon truly enjoyed being part of Waterloo East High School and will always cherish the memories he has with them. This year he will be enrolling at Cedar Falls High School and hopes to be able to help them this year.
This post was edited on 7/24 10:07 PM by javon1997
This post was edited on 7/24 10:07 PM by javon1997
Is Javon projected to play WR or on defense at Cedar Falls?
I tend to think Coach Remmert will keep Cedar Falls as more of a running team as they have in the past.
Over the past 7-8 years, I am pretty sure only once has a Cedar Falls player averaged more than 50 yards a game receiving. That player was James Harrington, who also happened to be the fastest player in the state that year.
Javon is quick and talented, but he doesn't have James Harrington speed, so my guess is that he'll have around 30 catches this year. I see Cedar Falls keeping the ball on the ground by giving Denison Harrington a ton of carries to lead the offense.
I tend to think Coach Remmert will keep Cedar Falls as more of a running team as they have in the past.
Over the past 7-8 years, I am pretty sure only once has a Cedar Falls player averaged more than 50 yards a game receiving. That player was James Harrington, who also happened to be the fastest player in the state that year.
Javon is quick and talented, but he doesn't have James Harrington speed, so my guess is that he'll have around 30 catches this year. I see Cedar Falls keeping the ball on the ground by giving Denison Harrington a ton of carries to lead the offense.
Is Middleton eligible right away for Cedar Falls? I realize Cedar Falls has a very good team this year and picked up a nice shutout win vs Iowa City High, but didn't see Middleton's name in the box score.
No doubt Cedar Falls has a good team this year. Assuming Javon is playing offense, he'll definitely help them in the home stretch and on into the playoffs.
The only thing that can help CF in the home stretch is if they make drastic improvements in the passing game. The 2nd year QB, shouldn't be having the same issues as he had last year. The offensive line is big, but young and the center for CF is quite small. So unless they make a change at Center or provide protection up the middle, I do not see the passing game improving.
Running is the other issue for CF, once they get the Offensive Line figured out, they are better off sticking with Probably Harrington and Fienup.
Running is the other issue for CF, once they get the Offensive Line figured out, they are better off sticking with Probably Harrington and Fienup.
This is something I never understood and I know football like few do. But why do most teams seem to put their smallest offensive lineman at center? Especially teams who run predominantly, that don't need to worry about the quarterback looking over a tall lineman's head. You'd figure, I would anyway, that the biggest defensive lineman are in the middle, across from the center - that's where you'd want your biggest guys. Have you smaller, more versatile linemen on the outside where the ends and blitzing outside linebackers are faster. This is part of the reason I quit playing football. Coaches wanted me to play tackle and I couldn't get my hands on those rush ends and linebackers. I could more than hold my own on the inside against a defensive tackle.
Anybody know why teams do I this way?
Anybody know why teams do I this way?
I am no coach but my guess is pulling a guard you would want a quicker kid so you can get an extra blocker at the point of attack. Again just a guess.
Center you'd generally want a more athletic lineman to be able to snap and block, plus they are almost always double teaming with a guard so you protect them that way
Depends on the offense. If the center is going to be asked to scoop / or climb up to the 2nd level similar to a guard then you again, want a smaller kid.
As someone else pointed out, he also is going to normally be double teaming with one of the guards so his need to be a masher is not as great. Also, if teams only rule about pulling is pulling the uncovered linemen, some will pull the center. SO again, you don't want a guy whose a plodder who can't move at center.
Now, I know in The Spread Option AKA Triple Option at Georgia Tech / Navy academies, they actually want their bigger kids at guard because the tackles have to be athletic. now, they're "bigger" kids are stiller smaller than most schools big guys. But that's the general thought there. So it all depends on the offense. And then what you're looking for.
Other reason you might want a bigger guy at tackle is because he's a guy whose got to be able to win a 1 x 1 block without a ton of help either from a offensive linemen ( C/Guard double team) or, in all likelihood, pulling on something like a short trap (guard pulling to opposite guard) where you're moving and have some momentum. If you have to kick out a DE all on your own or go 1 x 1 in short yardage you need a guy who has the strength (which somewhat goes with size but not entirely) to move that guy off the LOS
I guess my thinking is backwards then. I think it makes sense to have a guy be able to stop a defensive tackle at the point of attack on their own. When I played center, I had no issues snapping he ball and being able to get my hands on a DT and move him on my own, of course, I was bigger and stronger than most. And there were situations where an opponent would line-up with DTs over the guards and I'd have to chip one or the other on my way to finding the "Mike" linebacker. We used to gain a lot of yards on those draws behind me. Coach would say, "You need to get the 0-hole cleared or you're going gonna have a fullback running in yours instead." Aye-aye, captain! Conversely, when they later tried to move me to tackle, I couldn't ever get solid enough contact to move my DE where I wanted to. And if I lined up with a half-step outside so I could, I was prone to a twist/blitz from the "Will" linebacker. I guess it all comes down to personnel and where a guy fits best. My situation made it easier to pull guards because I didn't need the double-team help, so traps toward the outside were usually pretty effective.
Screwloose,
I always assumed it was because (the majority of the time) the center is receiving help from a guard with a 1-technique/nose guard. So it's not as consequential to have a big guy at center because you're almost never asking the center to block a 315 pound hog all by himself (usually). That's what I always thought.
I always assumed it was because (the majority of the time) the center is receiving help from a guard with a 1-technique/nose guard. So it's not as consequential to have a big guy at center because you're almost never asking the center to block a 315 pound hog all by himself (usually). That's what I always thought.
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