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What could go wrong?

It at least puts a value on citizenship, and not just free paper. If citizenship = 2 years of someone’s life plus they receive discipline and perform a function, I’m good with it too

AND I bet they won’t put up with stupid American entitled trans pendajos
 
I actually like the idea. If they're willing to serve our country and have a clean record, win-win.
Not so sure I’m all in on this one, I do appreciate the fact anyone (let alone an immigrant….albeit illegal) is willing to serve our country but not so sure we should be in incentivizing an Illegal alien fighting force.
 
Not so sure I’m all in on this one, I do appreciate the fact anyone (let alone an immigrant….albeit illegal) is willing to serve our country but not so sure we should be in incentivizing an Illegal alien fighting force.
This is the issue I have. I recognize and agree with all of the points on the pros. But this has me a little uneasy with the idea. Especially given the dorks we have running the country these days.
 
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I have a medic on my ship that became a citizen that way. That was also the way a lot of Filipinos became citizens as well. I think it was 6 years of service at that time.
During my San Diego stint, knew of many Filipino women who became citizens by marrying sailors on leave in Subic Bay. 😏
 
I actually like the idea. If they're willing to serve our country and have a clean record, win-win.
I’m all for it! I served with many foreign immigrants who paid their way to citizenship by serving their new country. But admit I’m a supporter of legal immigration. I have sponsored 5 exchange students for that purpose.

But That makes me lib or un-American here.
 
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I’m all for it! I served with many foreign immigrants who paid their way to citizenship by serving their new country. But admit I’m a supporter of legal immigration. I have sponsored 5 exchange students for that purpose.

But That makes me lib or un-American here.
You're a supporter of legal immigration?? You've defended your brain damaged POTUS dozens of times on this board when it comes to people crossing illegally. Literally dozens of times you've made fun of the wall, asked what could be done differently, talked about "poor Messicans", etc. Virtually everyone of your takes saw someone reply to you with support of legal immigration, but what we're seeing isn't legal immigration. And all you did was ridicule those responses and defend this stupid as shit administration.

Fvck off with that disingenuous bullshit.
 
You're a supporter of legal immigration?? You've defended your brain damaged POTUS dozens of times on this board when it comes to people crossing illegally. Literally dozens of times you've made fun of the wall, asked what could be done differently, talked about "poor Messicans", etc. Virtually everyone of your takes saw someone reply to you with support of legal immigration, but what we're seeing isn't legal immigration. And all you did was ridicule those responses and defend this stupid as shit administration.

Fvck off with that disingenuous bullshit.
Hey he "won this argument!" It doesn't matter if this viewpoint conflicts with another. Politicians, esp Dems, have been doing it for years.
 
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You're a supporter of legal immigration?? You've defended your brain damaged POTUS dozens of times on this board when it comes to people crossing illegally. Literally dozens of times you've made fun of the wall, asked what could be done differently, talked about "poor Messicans", etc. Virtually everyone of your takes saw someone reply to you with support of legal immigration, but what we're seeing isn't legal immigration. And all you did was ridicule those responses and defend this stupid as shit administration.

Fvck off with that disingenuous bullshit.
First off GFY you are cherry-picking.
Two things can be true at the same time. There has been a southern border problem since the Alamo. My ridicule of the border crisis fanatics centers specifically on the comical in-effectiveness on the Trump style wall …and failure to address the traffic through the legal Ports of Entry where 90% of the drugs and illegals come through. The advent of drones and 69 second wall scaling with medieval siege ladders ( pick any movie) made the wall a joke for drug traffickers. The true cult has focused only on the gaps in the wall between POEs .. and that’s a fvcking joke… but makes for a nice thread ;)
 
First off GFY you are cherry-picking.
Two things can be true at the same time. There has been a southern border problem since the Alamo. My ridicule of the border crisis fanatics centers specifically on the comical in-effectiveness on the Trump style wall …and failure to address the traffic through the legal Ports of Entry where 90% of the drugs and illegals come through. The advent of drones and 69 second wall scaling with medieval siege ladders ( pick any movie) made the wall a joke for drug traffickers. The true cult has focused only on the gaps in the wall between POEs .. and that’s a fvcking joke… but makes for a nice thread ;)
Your saying that your support of legal immigration makes you a liberal or un-American was disingenuous douchebaggery of epic proportions. You know damn good and well that what I said was accurate, so stop with the bullshit.
 
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First off GFY you are cherry-picking.

Like you were when you called yourself a lib in our eyes because you support legal immigration? Dude, GTFO with that BS. We support legal immigration...you support all forms of immigration because of muh Trump. The orange man has broken you.
 
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Negative.. my angles were always that we need more agricultural workers … there was zero chance to keep 1000s from crossing .. so give them provisional ag jobs so they report instead of hide.
The wall isn’t going to stop Jack shit. I have seen videos of drug dealers simply throwing kilos between the slats in the Trump wall .. It’s easier than playing corn hole.

The Trumpsky Great Wall is simply a monument to a political fantasy and absolutely impossible to complete.

I openly and sincerely question the IQ of ANYONE who thinks it is effective . I have always suggested the double fence with lots of layers of concertina wire- like the Israelis and most maximum security prisons have.

GFY again
 
Negative.. my angles were always that we need more agricultural workers … there was zero chance to keep 1000s from crossing .. so give them provisional ag jobs so they report instead of hide.
The wall isn’t going to stop Jack shit. I have seen videos of drug dealers simply throwing kilos between the slats in the Trump wall .. It’s easier than playing corn hole.

The Trumpsky Great Wall is simply a monument to a political fantasy and absolutely impossible to complete.

I openly and sincerely question the IQ of ANYONE who thinks it is effective . I have always suggested the double fence with lots of layers of concertina wire- like the Israelis and most maximum security prisons have.

GFY again

If Trump built that wall, you'd hate it too. You're fooling no one with this BS.
 
Negative.. my angles were always that we need more agricultural workers … there was zero chance to keep 1000s from crossing .. so give them provisional ag jobs so they report instead of hide.
The wall isn’t going to stop Jack shit. I have seen videos of drug dealers simply throwing kilos between the slats in the Trump wall .. It’s easier than playing corn hole.

The Trumpsky Great Wall is simply a monument to a political fantasy and absolutely impossible to complete.

I openly and sincerely question the IQ of ANYONE who thinks it is effective . I have always suggested the double fence with lots of layers of concertina wire- like the Israelis and most maximum security prisons have.

GFY again
Again, you calling yourself a liberal or un-American for supporting legal immigration is fvcking bullshit. I've agreed with you on the wall and other methods of keeping people out. However, you've actually denied there being an issue at the border. So, GFY.
 
First off GFY you are cherry-picking.
Two things can be true at the same time. There has been a southern border problem since the Alamo. My ridicule of the border crisis fanatics centers specifically on the comical in-effectiveness on the Trump style wall …and failure to address the traffic through the legal Ports of Entry where 90% of the drugs and illegals come through. The advent of drones and 69 second wall scaling with medieval siege ladders ( pick any movie) made the wall a joke for drug traffickers. The true cult has focused only on the gaps in the wall between POEs .. and that’s a fvcking joke… but makes for a nice thread ;)
Not what the Border Patrol says..
 
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Not what the Border Patrol says..
So are they are saying a recreational drone can’t a carry a 5 lb box 20 miles at 1000 ft , 60 mph ( I’ll show them mine) or can throw a 1 lb bag through the bars one side to the other????

Already- I’ll make a $10,000 bet with anyone here that I can do both.

Takers?? Easy money.
 
So are they are saying a recreational drone can’t a carry a 5 lb box 20 miles at 1000 ft , 60 mph ( I’ll show them mine) or can throw a 1 lb bag through the bars one side to the other????

Already- I’ll make a $10,000 bet with anyone here that I can do both.

Takers?? Easy money.
I ain’t gotta drone and neither do you. 🤣
 
So are they are saying a recreational drone can’t a carry a 5 lb box 20 miles at 1000 ft , 60 mph ( I’ll show them mine) or can throw a 1 lb bag through the bars one side to the other????

Already- I’ll make a $10,000 bet with anyone here that I can do both.

Takers?? Easy money.

Walls slow people down and change behavior. How many times have you been told this?

"I can throw a 1lb bag through the bars."



Before the wall, you could walk a 100lb bag over the border.

And drones worked before the wall was there too, dumbass.
 
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Walls slow people down and change behavior. How many times have you been told this?

"I can throw a 1lb bag through the bars."



Before the wall, you could walk a 100lb bag over the border.

And drones worked before the wall was there too, dumbass.
So wall does what … besides GPS landmarks and climbing/ digging coordinates.
 
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