Scrimmage
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What does Regina usually do the Friday before the first game? Scrimmage or just a regular practice?
Regina's non district schedule is brutal. Three potential top ranked teams.
Xavier IS #1 in 3A
Pella Christian SHOULD BE #1 in 1A
Williamsburg a top 3 2A
PC's out of district schedule is fun, also
Xavier IS #1 in 3A
Pella Christian SHOULD BE #1 in 1A
Williamsburg a top 3 2A
PC's out of district schedule is fun, also
The Regina/PC game might come down to which team has the ball last. Maybe a last second FG for the win.
Regina is scrimmaging at Mid Prairie tonight. Same as last year.
Mount Ayr is scrimmaging at Southwest Valley tonight. Was supposed to be in Mt Ayr, however the town was without running water all day. First year for Mt Ayr scrimmaging another opponent.
This is a very tough non-district schedule. I think the Regals will have to win the district just to make the playoffs. They seem to find ways to win and haven't lost a district game in years. Time will tell if this year will be any different.
Once I saw the districts, I’m not surprised one bit that the state put the DNH/Regina game at the end of the regular season.
For Regina, this will be a playoff game. For DNH, they will likely have a good enough record that this will not be a "must win" game.
Any idea how they will do the playoffs? Pry won’t do neighboring districts but just by travel. Pry try to avoid districts rematches the first round.
They haven’t lost as they’ve played in one of the weakest districts in the history of 1A football
Well the won’t get a challenge in district until probably that last game of the season.
They've beaten every other 1A and 2A opponent over that time frame other than two teams. I'm not sure they have had easier districts over an extended period of time than any one else. Some times you end up in a lousy district and some times you end up in a tough one. Can't really control that. Can you elaborate?
I’m just excited to see how the season unfolds with some variety in the class this year from traditional powers staying to having West Sioux coming up and several teams dropping down. Should make for some awesome district games and a great postseason!
Speaking of schedules, anybody see Wilton's?
The state gift-wrapped a playoff berth for the Beavers. Its a joke.
The state gift-wrapped a playoff berth for the Beavers. Its a joke.
Possibly they did. Non district wise I think NE Gooselake will give them a battle as they bring back their qb, leading rusher and 3 of top 4 wrs. In district SK will challenge them a bit as they will bring back a couple solid rbs but lose their qb. Wilton will get that game at home. But they will travel to Mediapolis which lost swafford to graduation but has some other skill positions coming back. Wilton will be the favorite as they should but they will have to work a bit for it.
They should be in 2A like the rest of the conference. And don’t give me the enrollment nonsense again. An extremely high % of students play extracurricular at catholic schools. They should be in 2A. And all they have to do is request it and it would be done. They’d be in a more fitting district just like that. All the rest are excuses
Iowa12, I'm not arguing for Regina. You're probably right on the 2A gig as Regina has historically been able to successfully compete at the 2A level. I think the state also agrees with you and without actually putting them in 2A, gave them a non-district schedule with one 3A school and two 2A schools in it plus a very good 1A Pella Christian School. What I was responding to was your comment,
"They haven’t lost as they’ve played in one of the weakest districts in the history of 1A football."
I was only asking for clarification on the strength of their districts which I thought was unsupported as there are wide discrepancies in "strong" and "weak" districts every year. I now see that your point was more related to the classification and not the districting of teams. I get that.
"They haven’t lost as they’ve played in one of the weakest districts in the history of 1A football."
I was only asking for clarification on the strength of their districts which I thought was unsupported as there are wide discrepancies in "strong" and "weak" districts every year. I now see that your point was more related to the classification and not the districting of teams. I get that.
He generally does a poor job of supporting his emotion based stances. Good luck in having him go look at how the other teams have done in the playoffs or in non district games. There has been a team in the area that may have made the district more competitive but for some odd reason they haven't been assigned to the same district
Why? Having a difficult nondistrict will help the RPI. RPI is a collection of three things 37.5% team record, 37.5% opponents record, and 25% opponent’s opponent record. So, to me going 0-4 against 4 teams that will finish with 8+ wins is more valuable than going 4-0 against 4 teams that are below .500. Of course, this only works if the team takes care of business for the rest of their schedule.
Agreed, the RPI obviously gives you incentive to play good (successful) teams. But it doesn't give you any incentive for playing up. Just take Regina's schedule as an example, If they could have scheduled Alburnett, Belle Plaine, Hudson and Wilton for their 4 ND games. No disrespect to any of these teams, they are all picked to finish top of their districts, but they don't pose the same level of challenge as Xavier, Williamsburg and PC. So IF they played that schedule, and IF they won, vs potentially dropping some of the current schedule, that would be even better for their RPI. Obviously you don't just make your schedule for RPI, you want to challenge your team with the best competition they can step up to, but doing so does give you some risk once you're in that big wildcard pool, against teams that may have wins against other less challenging, yet successful, teams. I kind of wish there was an RPI component that gives some credit for playing up classes (but not penalize for down? How do you get higher classed teams to take on a lower, in that case?) No, easy answers. In the end, everyone needs to play their games and the object is to win as much as you can, right? It will be an interesting season.
Each of your wins is worth 1/9 of your WP. (1/9 x .375) 0.0416 RPI pts.
Each of your opponent wins is worth 1/81 of your OWP. 9 opponents 9 games each x .375, (1/81) x .375 = 0.0046 RPI pts.
To break even, every team that beat you would have to go 9-0. You win and they win even 1 game your better off than taking a loss.
At least I think that the way the numbers work.
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Edit: Thought of something I missed, when you beat some body you actually lower your OWP by 0.0046(1/81), the win raises your WP by 0.0416 (1/9 or 9/81). Net raise to RPI is 8/81. A loss to a 9-0 team raises your OWP 9/81 and it does actually raise your RPI. A loss to an 8-1 team is the same as a win.
How that affects OOWP comes into play might change it. Since they gave 8 other teams losses it might pull the OOWP down enough that it all evens out and the loss to a 9-0 team is no better than a win. I'm guessing it probably does.
Each of your opponent wins is worth 1/81 of your OWP. 9 opponents 9 games each x .375, (1/81) x .375 = 0.0046 RPI pts.
To break even, every team that beat you would have to go 9-0. You win and they win even 1 game your better off than taking a loss.
At least I think that the way the numbers work.
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Edit: Thought of something I missed, when you beat some body you actually lower your OWP by 0.0046(1/81), the win raises your WP by 0.0416 (1/9 or 9/81). Net raise to RPI is 8/81. A loss to a 9-0 team raises your OWP 9/81 and it does actually raise your RPI. A loss to an 8-1 team is the same as a win.
How that affects OOWP comes into play might change it. Since they gave 8 other teams losses it might pull the OOWP down enough that it all evens out and the loss to a 9-0 team is no better than a win. I'm guessing it probably does.
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Exactly - You're much better off finding teams you can beat, who will go on and win most of their other games, even if it's in a class lower. Not sure how you get that done, and I'm sure it's not the healthiest thing for your program. It may take a while for coaches to find balance. Of course, if you win your district, then the whole point is moot.
Unless they (the IAHSAA) can incorporate some quality win / play component ( beating a team up a class , playing team up 2-3 classes, beat ranked team on the road etc) into the RPI , then I think it will be the same issue as point differential. I fear some really good teams will be left out playoffs.
Is likely state champion left out? I think that’s doubtful. But a young team, that might gain valuable experience if they won 1-2 playoff games this year , and was primed for championship run the next? I think that could happen.
Hopefully IAHSAA is right with the RPI. But given previous ineptness...let’s just say I have my doubts.
Is likely state champion left out? I think that’s doubtful. But a young team, that might gain valuable experience if they won 1-2 playoff games this year , and was primed for championship run the next? I think that could happen.
Hopefully IAHSAA is right with the RPI. But given previous ineptness...let’s just say I have my doubts.
Enough with the condescending crap. I’m allowed my opinion just like everyone else. You trying to talk louder or last doesn’t make you right
I am actually a quiet person, don't 'talk louder' very often. Last? Sometimes. Right? Usually. I am also not a proponent of emotion based approaches to discussions. It happens to all of us but doesn't really support your position when it does.
Again, no idea what you are talking about or referring to when tou speak of emotion based
"They haven’t lost as they’ve played in one of the weakest districts in the history of 1A football"
Emotion based and probably a pretty significant exaggeration. I am sure you have gone back and researched the subject. What criteria did use to establish this?
Your 'should be 2A, don't give me that enrollment nonsense' fits the same mold. Those are just from this thread.
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