Ryan Parmely best A player?

[FootballForLife01]

The kid is an absolute beast. His offense of stats are off the charts:
2849 rushing yards and 43 touchdowns

The scary thing is, it's only through 10 games. He has A serious shot at breaking many state records. Could he be the best class a player to ever play football in Iowa?

 

[mtdew_fever]

Parmely definitely had a crazy good year and has the stats to back himself up. He's a big back that doesn't necessarily have the top end speed, but he must be able to hit the gaps well as he's averaging 10 yards per carry.

What the heck was Maquoketa Valley's coach thinking when they gave him 41 carries the other night....in a game in which they won by 4 TD's vs Winfield-Mt Union? Knowing they will need him vs a talented Denver team on Monday, I would have cut back him carries in that blowout win.....especially when considering he's a big part of their defense as well.

 

[Cardinal2012]

He's very good. Brendon Boerm was pretty good as well. I know Madrid and Bedford have had some nice players in the past with a ton of rushing yards. Not sure anybody has been leaned on as heavy as Parmely though. That's in part because of his talent. Wapsie Valley Tyler Odneal? I think was the name. This is all just recent history as well. Seems like less parity is leading to blowouts and inflated stats.

This post was edited on 10/30 10:10 PM by Cardinal2012

 

[lil-cush]

Mr. Levi Ferguson from North Mahaska in the early/mid 2000's. He rushed for over 3000 yards for a state championship team.

 

[lil-cush]

Ferguson also has career bests in points, td's, and rushing yards in a career. I think its safe to say he is the best class A player of all-time.

 

[long-may-u-run]

Originally posted by lil-cush:
Ferguson also has career bests in points, td's, and rushing yards in a career. I think its safe to say he is the best class A player of all-time.

Of all time? I doubt if Ferguson would put himself on that pedestal. He was definitely a great player but an all time great probably goes on to a post high school career somewhere. Not taking anything away from what he accomplished at NM.

 

[gmgwolverine05]

I would say it is Ferguson as well. The topic wasn't asking for post-high school. The topic was best Class A player of all time. You would have a hard time finding anther Class A player who had the career that he had, (even at GMG )

 

[Iowascout]

You can Lobby for this kid if he ends up winning a State Championship....

 

[C4-Hawk]

FYI: Maq Valley plays the #52 ranked A schedule. I'm sure he is a stud, but 40 carries a game vs that schedule = a ton of yards for any decent back.

 

[lil-cush]

Just my opinion of course, but I do believe I make a pretty strong case!

 

[PNation]

Ferguson was an absolute stud, chose to play baseball which was his love, and did it at the D1 level.

Others to think about recently

Boerm NT
Meyer S. Cal
Ruppert WBM
Hefty NT
Odeal Wapsie
Smith Lisbon

There are about 15 very good Madrid backs

These are just some kids that come to mind, I personally would say that Ferguson is on top in class A, Boerm was a stud at NT for 4 years and his title game to beat Madrid was maybe the best ever, Meyer was a winner not the greatest stats, but had a lot of moxy, Ruppert was a great back that was hurt in the 2nd North Mahaska vs. West Bend Mallard matchup, Hefty was maybe the best receiver in the history of class A, and is doing big things at Upper Iowa, Odeal was a stud on a great Wapsie team, and Smith was just a big strong enforcer on that Lisbon team.

 

[LAhawkeye]

Originally posted by mtdew_fever:
Parmely definitely had a crazy good year and has the stats to back himself up. He's a big back that doesn't necessarily have the top end speed, but he must be able to hit the gaps well as he's averaging 10 yards per carry.

What the heck was Maquoketa Valley's coach thinking when they gave him 41 carries the other night....in a game in which they won by 4 TD's vs Winfield-Mt Union? Knowing they will need him vs a talented Denver team on Monday, I would have cut back him carries in that blowout win.....especially when considering he's a big part of their defense as well.

Wasn't as much of a blowout as it seems. Score was 14-8 at halftime. MV leaned on Parmely heavily in the 3rd quarter with the game not even close to being decided, built a comfortable lead then let off the gas in the 4th.

He doesn't necessarily hit the gaps well, but he's such a big, strong guy that he runs through tackles. Very rarely does one guy get him down. He's not fast, but he's surprisingly agile and has incredible balance that allows him to take hits and stay on his feet. His running style is very reminiscent of James Morris. I've been to a lot of games around the eastern part of the state this year, and Parmely is one of the best I've seen in any class.

 

[long-may-u-run]

Originally posted by PNation:
Ferguson was an absolute stud, chose to play baseball which was his love, and did it at the D1 level.

Others to think about recently

Boerm NT
Meyer S. Cal
Ruppert WBM
Hefty NT
Odeal Wapsie
Smith Lisbon

There are about 15 very good Madrid backs

These are just some kids that come to mind, I personally would say that Ferguson is on top in class A, Boerm was a stud at NT for 4 years and his title game to beat Madrid was maybe the best ever, Meyer was a winner not the greatest stats, but had a lot of moxy, Ruppert was a great back that was hurt in the 2nd North Mahaska vs. West Bend Mallard matchup, Hefty was maybe the best receiver in the history of class A, and is doing big things at Upper Iowa, Odeal was a stud on a great Wapsie team, and Smith was just a big strong enforcer on that Lisbon team.

Where did he play baseball?

 

[lil-cush]

UNI and Indiana State

 

[highjumpgu]

May be too far back for a lot of you guys but I would nominate Sean Shafar from Bedford back in late 90s. Went on to northwest and led them to a couple national championships there. Played against him and he could run you over make you miss and outrun you. Thoughts

 

[Cardinal2012]

Originally posted by highjumpgu:
May be too far back for a lot of you guys but I would nominate Sean Shafar from Bedford back in late 90s. Went on to northwest and led them to a couple national championships there. Played against him and he could run you over make you miss and outrun you. Thoughts

That's who I had in mind when I mentioned Bedford. Tied for third all-time in career points behind Ferguson from North Mahaska mentioned earlier and Brandon Wegher at Heelan. A state championship as well.

 

[long-may-u-run]

Originally posted by lil-cush:
Just my opinion of course, but I do believe I make a pretty strong case!

Great player no doubt! Seems to me if you are the best EVER in class A you would get some DI offers. Never heard of him being offered by any but I could be wrong. Didnt Dallas Clark play class A football or were they 1a at that time? Stats alone are always deceiving in judging one player over another.

 

[Cardinal2012]

Originally posted by long-may-u-run:

Originally posted by lil-cush:
Just my opinion of course, but I do believe I make a pretty strong case!

Great player no doubt! Seems to me if you are the best EVER in class A you would get some DI offers. Never heard of him being offered by any but I could be wrong. Didnt Dallas Clark play class A football or were they 1a at that time? Stats alone are always deceiving in judging one player over another.

Regardless of what class they were, being a good high school player and a good post high school players are different stories. Dallas Clark was great, but wasn't even first team all-state in high school. It's hard to believe the "greatest class A player ever" wasn't even considered first team talent. Then again, it's hard to believe someone of Clark's talent wasn't considered first team talent.

 

[uncylenced]

Originally posted by Cardinal2012:
He's very good. Brendon Boerm was pretty good as well. I know Madrid and Bedford have had some nice players in the past with a ton of rushing yards. Not sure anybody has been leaned on as heavy as Parmely though. That's in part because of his talent. Wapsie Valley Tyler Odneal? I think was the name. This is all just recent history as well. Seems like less parity is leading to blowouts and inflated stats.


This post was edited on 10/30 10:10 PM by Cardinal2012

Brendon's father Kurt was the best Class A Football player I have ever seen. Big 6'4" 240#, power TB with track speed. I believe he placed in the 200 for Garwin, graduated in 84.I remember the week before we played him he had 6 carries, 5 TDs and over 200 yards vs. Colo. The man was Al Bundy!

 

[northclark]

He had 41 Carries because Winfield held MV to 14 points in the first half...MV came out in the Maryland-I formation and pounded the rock in the 3rd quarter....I am not sure if there was a banged up qb situation, but Parmely then was quarterback in the 4th quarter and just ran zone reads. The fact of the matter is is that players like this don't come around very often. Parmely is deceivingly quick for his size and just simply does not get tackled backwards or hardly ever has someone solo tackle him. On the other side of the fence, MV is a very good team, but a completely different team when Parmely is out. Coaches probably gave him this many carries because that is what they've done all year. He is their horse, there aren't a lot of plays where the ball doesn't end up in his hands.

 

[SleepingPanda]

I haven't seen the Parmely kid play, so I can't say for sure... but you can't throw around the line "Best Player in Class A all time" for a runner who averages 10 yards per carry against a below average schedule. There are several players this year in class A that average this much per carry against tougher opponents, but don't see the workload that Parmely does, so they don't have the numbers. I'll give him credit for his toughness and durability, but is that enough to be the best of all time. I would love to see him prove me wrong and dominate in the playoffs against good opponents and win a state title. But not best of all time, maybe best this year.

 

[SICL Cares]

With Maquoketa Valley's season ending last night against Denver, did Parmely fall short of Ferguson's record?

 

[cam3232]

Levi Ferguson no longer has the rushing records. Clayton Plowman of Adair Casey has the state record for all classes as of last year in Rushing yards, points scored, and touchdowns.

 

[gmgwolverine05]

Yeah.... 8 man....... TOTALLY DIFFERENT GAME



We are talking 11 man football records. Put Ferguson or any of these backs in 8 man! ha

 

[alwaysthecoach]

For my money, Wesley Beschorner, quarterback from Southern Cal who graduated in 2001, was the best Class A football football player I've ever seen. His team won the 2000 state title and went on to break almost every offensive record at South Dakota and was a finalist for the Harlon Hill award (the Heisman of the 1AA division).

Another absolute stud was Mike Stuntz, also on the class of 2001, quarterback at CB St. Alberts. Went, on scholarship to Nebraska and played a prominent role on their early 2000's football teams in Lincoln.

 

[PNation]

Both of those were class 1A players

 

[dirtyhawks00]

Sean Schaffer wasn't even the best player in 1A his senior year. I technically wouldn't count Pekin because they're pretty fresh to class A but Pekin had numerous backs under Tom Stone that either led their class or were second in rushing for years. The 98' team probably had 3 guys better than anyone your talking about (Schaffer). I've watched alot of football and that is bar none the best small school team I have ever seen and I believe they hold many 1A state championship records to date. Some names I can remember (Sobaski, Parsons, D. Sobaski(2 time 1st teamer), Adam, Blakely(2 time 1st teamer), Gill) that were all in a row and dominated teams for years. I wonder if any other school has had that many 1st team tailbacks in a row? I do remember the great backs that Madrid had and Ferguson from North Mahaska. Been some good players over the years.

 

[Parker D]

It looks like he ended the season with 3180 yards, which is 58 yards short of Brandon Wegher's single season rushing record. 4th player ever to go over 3,000 yards in a season, the first to do it in 11 games. The other 3 had 13, 13, and 14 games. Very impressive.

 

[maxstabs13]

He Top 5 or so in 1A...

MV fed him the ball even in blow out wins...

The schedule was soft... Lisbon, Alburnett, and Denver were the toughest teams and all had losses of 40+ points on the season.

He had lower YPC against teams such as Alburnett, Lisbon, and Denver than 2A, 1A, and A players such as Lenoch, Kuehner, Stoakes, Cook, Brinkman...

If you are averaging 25 carries per game on a solid team you should be getting 175+ yards on a regular basis... Throw in a weak schedule and it should be 225+ on a regular basis.

I would consider him behind Stoakes, Reams, Stockdale, and possibly Butler of Starmont. Why Butler? He put up huge numbers for a horrible team(Worst game ironically MV). Without Butler Starmont is lucky to beat Postville and they would have been crushed by anyone else.