POLL: Regina
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JFC, this again.
YES, YES, YES. They are a private school. You get that right!?
They put ads in the local papers trying to get families to send their kids to Regina(You deserve to wear the crown). They, like any non-government entity must advertise/recruit/encourage new families to their business or go out of business. They encourage the existing families to encourage other families they know to go to Regina.
I am assuming the intent of your ridiculous poll is they recruit athletes. Again, yes they do.
All you pompous Crown wearers that are going to come on here and say that the "core" group were here since Kindergarten are not completely right. Their are kids that switched in Middle school.
I personally know 6 high level athletes/families that were repeatedly approached to switch. It is not wrong, illegal or immoral. Again, they are a Private school and must bring families into the school to keep the school open.
This brings us to the recent success of the program issue. The entire success of the program is founded on an all star coaching staff that has the complete buy-in of the players and families. They install their "system" in 7th grade and don't deviate for 6 years. The kids all know the plays, their rolls and what is expected of them. If you spend any time watching high school athletics, you would notice that the difference from a good team and an average team is the number of players on the field that know what to do each and every play. That is what separates Regina from 99% of the 1A teams and 90% of all teams in the state of Iowa.
YES, YES, YES. They are a private school. You get that right!?
They put ads in the local papers trying to get families to send their kids to Regina(You deserve to wear the crown). They, like any non-government entity must advertise/recruit/encourage new families to their business or go out of business. They encourage the existing families to encourage other families they know to go to Regina.
I am assuming the intent of your ridiculous poll is they recruit athletes. Again, yes they do.
All you pompous Crown wearers that are going to come on here and say that the "core" group were here since Kindergarten are not completely right. Their are kids that switched in Middle school.
I personally know 6 high level athletes/families that were repeatedly approached to switch. It is not wrong, illegal or immoral. Again, they are a Private school and must bring families into the school to keep the school open.
This brings us to the recent success of the program issue. The entire success of the program is founded on an all star coaching staff that has the complete buy-in of the players and families. They install their "system" in 7th grade and don't deviate for 6 years. The kids all know the plays, their rolls and what is expected of them. If you spend any time watching high school athletics, you would notice that the difference from a good team and an average team is the number of players on the field that know what to do each and every play. That is what separates Regina from 99% of the 1A teams and 90% of all teams in the state of Iowa.
Do you think any non high profile athletic kids or families were approached to switch? I mean the ads, the signs, the speakers at church? They are recruiting every day, every student. It is a necessity.
It doesn't make sense to me how they have enrollment of a 1A school. Yet they have the talent of a top 3A school. I just don't get it. West Lyon was a very good team who played a very good game, with a lot of talent. But they were still no match for Regina. I don't know who they recruited but something is going on there.
This post was edited on 11/23 7:41 PM by Chow22
This post was edited on 11/23 7:41 PM by Chow22
Private schools are run based on tuition that the students pay to run the school.
They are not going to say no to any student that will pay to go to school there, athlete or not.
Until someone comes up with more than a couple of kids that have moved there in the past five years, I don't buy it. (Public schools have students move in too)
CCA has a ton of open enrollments from Iowa City district.
Solon had a very good qb from Monticello move in, and kids open enroll from Iowa City
West Branch had Gesie just happen to move in to name just one open enrollment to their district.
They have an amazing coaching staff, think people need to start there.
They have a weight program that is as good or better than any 4A school in the state.
They work year round at being good. Not many schools do that.
They have had a great run of athletes
My question is Give us exact names of all these recruits? More than the know one or 2 kids that moved in.
Truth be told, Regina loses about 10 students every year when the 8th grade goes to high school. Check the Department of Education web site numbers.:
They are not going to say no to any student that will pay to go to school there, athlete or not.
Until someone comes up with more than a couple of kids that have moved there in the past five years, I don't buy it. (Public schools have students move in too)
CCA has a ton of open enrollments from Iowa City district.
Solon had a very good qb from Monticello move in, and kids open enroll from Iowa City
West Branch had Gesie just happen to move in to name just one open enrollment to their district.
They have an amazing coaching staff, think people need to start there.
They have a weight program that is as good or better than any 4A school in the state.
They work year round at being good. Not many schools do that.
They have had a great run of athletes
My question is Give us exact names of all these recruits? More than the know one or 2 kids that moved in.
Truth be told, Regina loses about 10 students every year when the 8th grade goes to high school. Check the Department of Education web site numbers.:
I would need to check my school directory but probably 35-40 if not more from reading this board. Their success is the result of several things, good players, working hard year round being coached exceptionally well.
Didn't West Lyon dominate the class a championship game last year with obvious 1a talent? Something going on out in western Iowa it looks to me. Poor BGM had to play a 1a level team playing class a football. How much more asinine do you want to get? Hell if you want to get technical, Regina probably has 4a talent. Get over it.
You say they don't turn kids away. Answer this example for me:
Lil' Johnny the 5 star RB that gets average grades comes to private school "T" - can't afford to pay but wants to play for storied program.
Lil' Johnny the dirtball gets Ds and Fs, doesn't listen to authority figures and does nothing more than take up detention time of the staff, can pay and wants to go to Private school "T".
Which student gets accepted?
Haha you're funny pine hawk... No way does Regina turn down a 5 star running back. I don't know what you're smoking but i'm sure one of the "supporting" families from Regina would be more than happy to pay for the kids tuition so he can play football for ICR.
I've never heard of that kind of thing happening.
People seem to have this impression that kids are lining up to come to Regina. I wish it were true, but I really don't see it happening. Maybe that changes at some point, we'll see.
Regardless, even athletics aside, it really is a great school that develops kids into outstanding, productive adults.
People seem to have this impression that kids are lining up to come to Regina. I wish it were true, but I really don't see it happening. Maybe that changes at some point, we'll see.
Regardless, even athletics aside, it really is a great school that develops kids into outstanding, productive adults.
The super knowledgable people on this board are amazing. Of course someone would just foot the bill, happens all the time. Probably get a new car if their drive is to far.
No, cidhawkeye was once on this board talking about families that couldn't afford to pay for their kids' schooling at Regina. If I remember right he said that there are families that support some kids and pay for their tuition.
What's considered superknowledgable? Is that even a word? Superknowledgable meaning you have how many thousand posts on this website? Do you ever leave your computer? Or do you just thrive to sit on here and wait for people to say something about Regina so you can get a hard on. Sounds like to me you wanna show Marv where the wild goose goes.
Ahhhh wait, let me guess, your one of Regina's 54 coaches. You got a hired position to do this. Duh silly me, what was I thinking
You sure do represent a "great school" quite well on here.
You don't remember correctly. Families submit anonymous financial aid forms similar to college financial aid.
Well you don't seem to fall into the knowledgable category but it takes all types to make this board work. No coaching position for me so it must be 53 coaches. I have been here for awhile dealing with the anti private sentiments so my post count is pretty high. Every year there are people such as your self that show up with many of the same points. So it will continue.
I could see how Pinehawk would be getting paid. Since he has over 11,000 posts. I don't see how that would leave anytime for a person to go to work and be successful at their job.
I started posting on HawkeyeReport back around 2002? I came over from another board during the infamous MulvaSpills episode (that's not me, it's my jacket).
So, a lot of posts, yes. But, over a long period of time. When Tom locked down the Off Topic board, I guess I just wandered over here.
So, a lot of posts, yes. But, over a long period of time. When Tom locked down the Off Topic board, I guess I just wandered over here.
They have an amazing coaching staff, think people need to start there.
They have a weight program that is as good or better than any 4A school in the state.
They work year round at being good. Not many schools do that.
They have had a great run of athletes
I completely agree with these statements.
West Lyon has the same things going for them you just mentioned. Many of the guys were back in the weight room Saturday morning already.
They have a weight program that is as good or better than any 4A school in the state.
They work year round at being good. Not many schools do that.
They have had a great run of athletes
I completely agree with these statements.
West Lyon has the same things going for them you just mentioned. Many of the guys were back in the weight room Saturday morning already.
And that is why they have built their program to the level they are at. It really is a simple formula. The problem is if any of those pieces are missing then it becomes more of a challenge.
I have been following this website for many years (don't post very often) and this subject never seems to go away. I would offer a couple of thoughts. For years before Regina became the center of attention most of the attention was pointed at St. Albert. The posts were exactly the same just a different school. Since then SA has dropped a class which means, according to many, they should be THE power house of class A. If they were/are only recruiting ATHLETES for the sole purpose of putting trophies in the case, afforded all of the unfair advantages that the private schools have etc. etc. etc. they should be steamrolling class A. Where are they? Didn't even make the playoffs. I am not so sure they will make the playoffs next year either. If they do I don't see them getting very far. How is this possible? What does explain it is this: It is high school athletics. It comes and goes. See Harlan, Emmetsburg, Pekin back in the day, Aplington Parkersburg and yes Heelan, Regina and SA. Nobody is pointing out SA's downturn but that would not help the cause to impose rule changes. You can't impose rules that last forever like a multiplier or separate classes based on cyclical events. As I have said before, the parents of all kids pick the schools, the schools don't pick the athletes. Regina has the perfect storm right now having a coach that has played at the highest level and understands what is takes to make a team what it its. Couple that with kids that obviously buy in and you get a what we are seeing. That is not Regina's fault. They are the recipient, yes, but what are they supposed to do tell him to go away? Before everyone jumps on this, I will say that I am not so niave to think that no school has ever recruited an athlete. Yes of course it has happened in the past and will in the future. My point is that schools be it public or private do not have the extensive recruiting machines that some people are trying to portrait. Certainly not the magnitude of forcing the IHSAA to impose the things that are suggested.
I can't completely agree with the fans who think this whole situation is purely cyclical. The cyclical argument is more likely to be true for the small private schools located in major metro areas than it is the vast majority of the small class schools located in rural districts.
CBSA has done extremely well in football. They share the same advantages as the other private schools plus they are nested in a city of 62,000 people with a major metro area far larger than any in Iowa located just accross the river. CBSA has opportunities even many other Iowa private schools do not have. Urbanization has normally allowed these areas to expand...sometimes rapidly.
There is every reason to expect that CBSA will become a player again in the next year or two because nothing has really changed for the school except they may have a class or two of student athletes which haven't performed as well in football as the classes in the recent past. Trust me....CBSA will be back and soon.
Now take the small public rural schools which comprise the majority of the smaller classes. They have none of the "other" advantages the privates do. Urbanization has shifted their population to the major metro areas where many of the private schools are located. In order to offset this they have had to consolidate and/or share programs creating geographically huge school districts. Travel (especially for underclassmen who are in various stages of developement) is a real issue. How is the kid to travel sometimes 20 miles or more (each way) to get to off season lifting/conditioning? Often participation rates are even impacted by younger athletes inability to make it to practice. Due to budget constraints combined with larger districts, many of these schools have eliminated their activity busses that used to take kids home at the completion of their after schools activities. These are some of the issues that have caused many of the small public schools to "slide" and it's not something they will cycle out of.
For many of the small public districts their whole situation has changed where for the many of the privates schools it hasn't.
This post was edited on 11/25 7:46 AM by stickman80
CBSA has done extremely well in football. They share the same advantages as the other private schools plus they are nested in a city of 62,000 people with a major metro area far larger than any in Iowa located just accross the river. CBSA has opportunities even many other Iowa private schools do not have. Urbanization has normally allowed these areas to expand...sometimes rapidly.
There is every reason to expect that CBSA will become a player again in the next year or two because nothing has really changed for the school except they may have a class or two of student athletes which haven't performed as well in football as the classes in the recent past. Trust me....CBSA will be back and soon.
Now take the small public rural schools which comprise the majority of the smaller classes. They have none of the "other" advantages the privates do. Urbanization has shifted their population to the major metro areas where many of the private schools are located. In order to offset this they have had to consolidate and/or share programs creating geographically huge school districts. Travel (especially for underclassmen who are in various stages of developement) is a real issue. How is the kid to travel sometimes 20 miles or more (each way) to get to off season lifting/conditioning? Often participation rates are even impacted by younger athletes inability to make it to practice. Due to budget constraints combined with larger districts, many of these schools have eliminated their activity busses that used to take kids home at the completion of their after schools activities. These are some of the issues that have caused many of the small public schools to "slide" and it's not something they will cycle out of.
For many of the small public districts their whole situation has changed where for the many of the privates schools it hasn't.
This post was edited on 11/25 7:46 AM by stickman80
Nah. Why stop now? How about getting education out of the governments hands. Private school for everybody. As it should be. Problem solved! Take athletics out of the school. Club sports like Europe. Problem solved. Give per pupil spending back to the parents and let them decide where to educate their children. Problem solved. Good schools thrive. Lousy schools go out of business. Problem solved. Amen
Parents decide based on where they send their children to school. That doesn't always correspond to their residence. See private schools and OE kids.
