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Playoff Qualifiers

LukeFeddersen

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Class A

District 1 – West Sioux (8-1), Akron-Westfield (5-4)

District 2 – Algona Garrigan (9-0), South O’Brien (6-3)

District 3 – Saint Ansgar (9-0), West Hancock (7-2)

District 4 – East Buchanan (7-2), Wapsie Valley (6-3), Lisbon (8-1)

District 5 – Gladbrook-Reinbeck (9-0), Hudson (8-1), B-G-M (5-4)

District 6 – Montezuma (7-2) , Lynnville-Sully (8-1)

District 7 – Council Bluffs St. Albert (9-0), Earlham (6-3)
 
How did BGM get in over New London? They were both 3rd place teams. Had the same district record. Didn't play each other. New London has a higher point differential than BGM according to the district standings on the IAHSAA website.
 
DawgPoundGreat said:
How did BGM get in over New London? They were both 3rd place teams. Had the same district record. Didn't play each other. New London has a higher point differential than BGM according to the district standings on the IAHSAA website.
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New London lost to Pekin, who is also 5-2 in district play. This eliminated New London from the race, as these are the credentials for determining wild cards, in order:

1. District record
2. Head to head competition (District or non-district)
3. Tie Breaker Point Differential +/- 17

Pekin was the only wild card team from that district that could still be considered, but its low point differential average put it below BGM.
 
wapsie valley was not a district champ they were runner up it shows that on district standings and playoff qualifiers on the athletic association web page... The state didn't drop the ball on that at all runner ups play champs
 
Lol if either of you guys knew anything Wapsie is a district champ, was a 3 way tie for first and it came down to points. To be exact 3 total points was all east buc lead Wapsie by. So the state did drop the ball on this in my opinion because why should a true runner up in west Hancock and Hudson play each other and one of them not play Wapsie or Saint ansger? They rewarded two True runner up teams, especially west Hancock because they get a home game and shouldn't
 
West Hancock can't play st. Ansgar bcuz they were in same district... West Hancock got the home game because they had the best points out of all the runner ups and 1 runner up was gonna get a home game due to only 7 district champs and 8 games in first round... Unfortunately in ur scenario wapsie valley was tech a district champ but so was Lisbon who wapsie valley lost to
 
i just dont understand why grundy center didnt get in.they had a 6-3 record, lost to 3 ranked teams combined 25-2 record wise. im pretty sure they would have scared some teams in the playoffs with flater. just a good discussion talk:)
 
Kevin7216 said:
West Hancock can't play st. Ansgar bcuz they were in same district... West Hancock got the home game because they had the best points out of all the runner ups and 1 runner up was gonna get a home game due to only 7 district champs and 8 games in first round... Unfortunately in ur scenario wapsie valley was tech a district champ but so was Lisbon who wapsie valley lost to
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In 1A...Western Christian is playing West Lyon in the first round and they are in the same district so your WH can't play St. A just went up in smoke IMO.
 
GOPANTHERS23 said:
Lol if either of you guys knew anything Wapsie is a district champ, was a 3 way tie for first and it came down to points. To be exact 3 total points was all east buc lead Wapsie by.
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Yep, which means East Buchanan is the champ and Wapsie was 2nd. Not hard to comprehend...for most people.
 
brewcrewman1 said:
In 1A...Western Christian is playing West Lyon in the first round and they are in the same district so your WH can't play St. A just went up in smoke IMO.
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Western and West Lyon CAN play each other because West Lyon is an at-large team (#3 from the district).

West Hancock and Saint Ansgar CANNOT play each other because they were automatic qualifiers (top 2 in the district).
 
Isu chip it's easy to comprehend don't act like I am a newbee to this or preps. If someone can argue that a true runnerup deserves a home game over a co district champ needs to really learn something about sports because it is in no way right. It should be Britt coming to Wapsie since they can't play Saint ansger n Hudson can.
 
Grundy Center didnt get in because its a flawed system. There is a big difference in competition level between districts and that will show in the playoffs. District 4 and 5 are mediocre at best besides GR. Im thinking 4th place finisher in district 3 would have made noise in both districts 4 and 5.
 
Maybe the system is flawed idk but what I do know is the rules were written b4 the season and ALL teams knew them going into the season
 
According to rules when there is a tie for the district it first goes to head to head well they all beat each other so then it goes to points highest in points is district champ 2nd in pts is runner up in this situation wapsie was given the runner up designation and now they are equal to west Hancock and Hudson.... I don't see how wapsie got screwed
 
All Wapsie had to do was beat North Linn by 13 and they would have been district champ and the wapsie people wouldn't be talking about getting screwed. Their is no co or tri champs when you have the point system. I think if their was any beef with the pairings in different classes including A it was matching the same teams from one district against each other in possibly the first two rounds.
 
Kevin7216 you make me laugh Lol. You don't have to explain things to me I know how it all works, I have forgotten more high school football than you will ever know so you can stop with all the technical stuff thanks. You are obviously new
 
Troutstamp1 it was 14 actually lol and they are still recognized as a district champ just the points system is used for seeding. The trophy will still say district champs on it. So you are telling me that you don't think the state dropped the ball? How does Britt deserve a home game over Wapsie is my issue when they are a true runner up and Wapsie is not
 
Panthers you are wrong on both ends, they are not district champs nor will they get anything that says they are. Ask coach Foster about it he knows. Unless they just changed things you don't get a trophy for the first round you get a banner that says playoff qualifier. I'm sorry to say Wapsie will not receive anything that says district champion. Do I think they got screwed no because with 2 wildcards you were going to have 2 #2s playing each other anyway. The problem is where ST Ansgar is located you have no teams close to them or Britt and they couldn't play each other. The closest to Britt was Hudson and they are placed in the west side. It was either going to be Wapsie, East Buc or Hudson going to ST Ansger and EB won the district so Wapsie was a nobrainer. If they win by 13 then EB probably goes north instead.
 
Panthers here is something not technical maybe wapsie should have won all there games and there wouldn't be any problems... who's fault is that the associations too? If you know how this all works and you know all the rules you would see wapsie didn't get screwed!
 
Troutstamp1 according to the 2016 post season manual all teams will receive trophies, remember this is back to real playoff football again and not that joke of 32 teams. Also in 2011 Wapsie was a runner up in seeding but was a co district champ with turkey valley and it says it on the trophy if I am not mistaken so......
 
Panther you are correct on this yr each team will receive a trophy as well as medals and a banner my mistake. But you are dead wrong in thinking wapsie is considered a district champion or any other team that had the same district record. You can spin it anyway you want but the district champions are bases on points that is how it is determined unless it's 2 teams then it would be head to head. Your 2011 trophy may say co district champs I don't know never seen it, but remember it doesn't come that way from the state as the plate on it comes off to have engraved on it what you want including names. Now if you think wapsie is a district champ in 2016 then put that on your plate if that makes you happy but you are the only one that thinks that as you are considerd a runner up. Again ask coach Foster he has been there a long time and a class guy and he will tell you that wapsie was not the district champions. Or even better call Todd Tharp from the association and ask him.
 
I don't understand why a team is penalized points in a loss. A loss for a team should be zero. A win by a team is plus points up to what ever scoring cap they want to set. Just my opinion...
 
The system isn't flawed it was set up to get teams like Lisbon in. The old 16 team system would have left off that 3rd team in a 3 way tie for first. This system gets them in as long as there is no more than 2.
Grundy didn't get in because they couldn't keep one of their losses closer. I don't know what system would get them in, combined wins from teams who beat you? Unless you want someone in Boone to choose who they think deserves it or newspaper guys or even coaches.
 
Compared to all other high school sports in Iowa, it is Flawed. All other sports allow our student athletes to make the playoffs- even if you have 0 wins in a basketball season you get a chance to make it to the Well. Districts are not even close to the same as far as competition level.
Get rid of non district games, play eight district games and then seed it accordingly. That way you have more competitive football at the end of the year.
 
When they dont help towards playoffs they are worthless. Scrimmage a team close the week before. Most teams have a intrasquad scrimmage, turn it into a controlled practice with another team.
 
Your school's rival is not in your district. Just don't play them?

Nope, don't think that's the right answer...
 
Rivals?? In these smaller classes those teams that decide to go to 8 man dont think about rivals? I'm more concerned about our athletes having experiencing an opportunity, dont make any sense to play a 2a team just because of a rival. I thought everybody was worried about player safety.
 
Having an opportunity? Really?

If you had told my high school team that we would play one more district game, but take away the game against our rival there would've been a mutiny. Apparently you're more interested in what you want rather than what the kids want.

Adults see non-district games as worthless. Kids see them for what they are, another chance to compete and have fun playing a game.

Adults ruin everything in HS sports....
 
Derder42 said:
Compared to all other high school sports in Iowa, it is Flawed. All other sports allow our student athletes to make the playoffs- even if you have 0 wins in a basketball season you get a chance to make it to the Well. Districts are not even close to the same as far as competition level.
Get rid of non district games, play eight district games and then seed it accordingly. That way you have more competitive football at the end of the year.
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I would agree with this generally. Cut one game and play it out similarly to other sports. No more formulas etc. to determine who is worthy of the post season. When you get to the final eight, you are a state qualifier. Or something similar to that.
 
Their is already a movement by the coaches assoc to change the playoff system in the next rotation witch would be after next season. The big push will be to go to 24 teams with district champions receiving a first round bye. Allot will be determined when they know how many teams in each class and how many districts as the number of class A teams is shrinking unless they change something. I can see them going to 1 non district game and 8 district games with all the at large teams coming from the point system. I thought 32 teams were to many and now with 16 you had to earn it. I hope they keep the non district game because that could be a rivalry game from another district or larger class and for those that say thats not important your dead wrong to a small school. That one game probably takes in more gate $ than 2 or 3 other games combined from teams traveling a longer distance.
 
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