New Classification

[rc1963]

Did anyone else happen to see this little tidbit from the Board of Control's August meeting?


"The IHSAA’s Classification Committee will meet as planned this fall with statewide member school representation and input from the Iowa Girls High School Athletic Union. Twenty-six school districts have submitted a form resolution calling for the IHSAA and IGHSAU to, “convene a committee to seriously evaluate the competitive needs of students and schools to experience success and the inequities inherent in a system based solely on enrollment size without consideration of family and community capacity for support and make a recommendations to a joint board of both associations to resolve this issue in the 2019-20 school year.”

So, I know the classification committee has to meet this year anyway, it's that time in the cycle. It seems that with 26 districts submitting a "form resolution" that there's obviously a coordinated effort to do something different. I wonder if they had specific suggestions to make or if it's truly just telling the board, "you need to address competitiveness in a way that goes beyond enrollment?"

Thoughts?

 

[Iabeastmode]

Wouldn’t it be interesting if those 26 schools left the Iowa Athletic Association and started their own association? Like a NCAA and NAIA thing. Don’t think it will happen, but fun to think about.

 

[WBBearsFollower]

IPHSAA ??

 

[NWIAHawkfan]

There has been a fair amount written about this in newspapers here in NW Iowa. Most that are in favor of it are pointing to socioeconomic factors coming into play, not just enrollment size. Most are using the free and reduced lunch program to gauge the income levels of the students' families.

 

[EagleHawk]

Did anyone else happen to see this little tidbit from the Board of Control's August meeting?


"The IHSAA’s Classification Committee will meet as planned this fall with statewide member school representation and input from the Iowa Girls High School Athletic Union. Twenty-six school districts have submitted a form resolution calling for the IHSAA and IGHSAU to, “convene a committee to seriously evaluate the competitive needs of students and schools to experience success and the inequities inherent in a system based solely on enrollment size without consideration of family and community capacity for support and make a recommendations to a joint board of both associations to resolve this issue in the 2019-20 school year.”

So, I know the classification committee has to meet this year anyway, it's that time in the cycle. It seems that with 26 districts submitting a "form resolution" that there's obviously a coordinated effort to do something different. I wonder if they had specific suggestions to make or if it's truly just telling the board, "you need to address competitiveness in a way that goes beyond enrollment?"

Thoughts?

Just use the European soccer model. Win, you move up, lose, you move down. Different for each sport. Teams may have better baseball programs than basketball, or better basketball than football.

 

[Pinehawk]

Great timing OP, way to distract from the best part of the upcoming season with this old topic.

 

[rc1963]

Great timing OP, way to distract from the best part of the upcoming season with this old topic.

because we need laser focus on the upcoming playoffs??? Had not seen any conversation on this and thought surely we could walk and chew gum. Feel free to ignore and devote your attention to crunching playoff matchups.

 

[VanderHoops]

Although high school sports seem pretty important to some of us, it's still just a game.

Do we really want to go back to telling underprivileged (often minority) kids that they're worth 1/2 as much as other kids?
Talk about creating a stigma to give our kids one more thing to worry about.
Because of a game.

 

[usfhawk]

Although high school sports seem pretty important to some of us, it's still just a game.

Do we really want to go back to telling underprivileged (often minority) kids that they're worth 1/2 as much as other kids?
Talk about creating a stigma to give our kids one more thing to worry about.
Because of a game.

Ageed

Play the game where they put ya.

 

[rc1963]

Just use the European soccer model. Win, you move up, lose, you move down. Different for each sport. Teams may have better baseball programs than basketball, or better basketball than football.

I like the idea, except HS's don't have the same ability to control their own roster. You have a team loaded with talent one year, you have success, you go up a class the next year and now your less talented class had to compete against a higher level? Plus, I'm guessing the state would hold on to the model of doing everything in pairs of years, so you can give everyone a home and away series. Food for thought.

 

[WBBearsFollower]

RC, you left a word out in your post.

PUBLIC HS don't have the same ability....

 

[cidhawkeye]

RC, you left a word out in your post.

PUBLIC HS don't have the same ability....

And you have been so nice lately. Knew it was too good to last. The term is open enrollment so actually they do have that ability. I will leave the rest alone so as not to derail the topic.**** please note this was a response to an aspersion cast.

 

[rc1963]

RC, you left a word out in your post.

PUBLIC HS don't have the same ability....

I simply copied and pasted from the state site, I didn't make any conscious omission. Your view is one view and I don't agree with it, but you're entitled to it. I'm not going to argue it or try to convince you differently. I only brought it up to see if there were ideas on how one might do classification other than by enrollment. Not looking to re-start WWIII.

 

[WBBearsFollower]

And you have been so nice lately. Knew it was too good to last. The term is open enrollment so actually they do have that ability. I will leave the rest alone so as not to derail the topic.**** please note this was a response to an aspersion cast.

That is an opinion. Everybody gets one.
It's not my fault you feel everything is directed at you, CID.

Nobody has control of open enrollment.
Whereas, Fliers are sent out and advertising is done by private schools. They have to recruit or the doors would close. I get it.

Best wishes on Friday at DNH. I expect a barnburner of a battle. Could go either way!

 

[cidhawkeye]

That is an opinion. Everybody gets one.
It's not my fault you feel everything is directed at you, CID.

Nobody has control of open enrollment.
Whereas, Fliers are sent out and advertising is done by private schools. They have to recruit or the doors would close. I get it.

Best wishes on Friday at DNH. I expect a barnburner of a battle. Could go either way!

The game Friday should be a good one and then wherever the playoffs lead.

And your opinion actually conflicts with the states verbiage, not rc’s. So your opinion needed to be directed at the state rather than RC. I am sure you have made the state aware of your opinion on the subject.