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First Round Playoff Talk

LukeFeddersen

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Class 1A

West Lyon vs. Western Christian (at Sioux Center)

Hinton at Logan-Magnolia

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AHSTW at Van Meter

Madrid at Pleasantville

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Clayton Ridge at Denver

South Winneshiek at Bellevue

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West Branch at Iowa City Regina

Sigourney-Keota at Pella Christian

Want to see our early predictions for each game? Click here now!

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Hard to not look a week ahead to that (potential) Regina vs Pella Christian quarterfinal match-up. No disrespect to any of the other 1A contenders, but I felt all year that was going to be the state championship game.
 
Couple teams in NW Iowa beg to differ. Western's only loss was to top 5 2-A team. West Lyon defeated CLGLR and RVBH both rated in 2-A.
 
Only the next four weeks will tell. From what I have followed this season, Regina, Pella Christian, West Lyon, Western Christian seem to be the contenders. Throw in Denver and Hinton as potential candidates. NW Iowa pairings are probably what you could do with them. Central Iowa probably as predicted. Eastern Iowa quadrants are interesting. Not sure why Pella Christian and Regina were placed together in the quarter finals. Geography no doubt the reason but it appears to me that #1 and #2 could easily have been in separate quads. I have no idea what parameters the state uses and it what order to decide pairings. In the end, it doesn't matter. These teams will decide it on the field and one team will have to win 4 games. Until you beat the champ, they're still the champ. Until a 1-A school beats Regina, my money is on them. Perhaps this will be the year.
 
the reason PC and Regina are in the same quad is because of Madrid getting the 8th home game. Who else are they going to send to play the Tigers other than Pleasantville? It made perfect sense.
 
WBBearsFollower said:
the reason PC and Regina are in the same quad is because of Madrid getting the 8th home game. Who else are they going to send to play the Tigers other than Pleasantville? It made perfect sense.
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I don't think it's going to matter anyway. As I've said before, you have to win 4 games anyway. Win 'em in any order you want. I think it would have make sense to flip Regina and Denver.
 
monte2013 said:
IF PC and Regina both win where would that game be played?
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Reverse alphabetical order this year. The game will be played at Regina. A nice break for Regina and tough break for PC. PC has played there before as they have been district opponents for the two previous years.
 
I agree - PC vs. Regina game is for the title. Budd and the Boone boys get it wrong once again...same old song and dance...sad for the kids. #1 vs. #2 in the second round - let's give them a raise?!
 
I guess if they would be consistent I wouldn't have a problem with it. But, they separate Dowling and Valley until the semi-finals why can't they do that with all classes? Maybe just glance at BC Moore and move a couple teams. The big benefactors of this year's playoffs are Mount Vernon in 2a, Van Meter in 1a, and Gladbrook-Reinbeck in A.
 
BandGetsToPlay said:
I agree - PC vs. Regina game is for the title. Budd and the Boone boys get it wrong once again...same old song and dance...sad for the kids. #1 vs. #2 in the second round - let's give them a raise?!
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Why even play the other games? Let's just jump to the championship with that game. Save people time and money...I wouldn't sleep on ANY d1 team...what's sad is ppl thinking that without seeing others play
 
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BandGetsToPlay said:
I agree - PC vs. Regina game is for the title. Budd and the Boone boys get it wrong once again...same old song and dance...sad for the kids. #1 vs. #2 in the second round - let's give them a raise?!
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I understand when people look back on the playoffs and say the "championship game" was this round or this game because they have seen how the games have played out and what each team looks like, but to say this before the playoffs have started is idiotic.
 
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usfhawk said:
I understand when people look back on the playoffs and say the "championship game" was this round or this game because they have seen how the games have played out and what each team looks like, but to say this before the playoffs have started is idiotic.
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Here's the problem, when the state constantly divides East/West and you have the same champion 5 years in a row, you can't really judge the #2 team in the east vs. the rest of the field, which gives you no baseline for the next year. Why not mix it up in the quarters, regardless of travel, Don't accept the district rematches. I fully agree that its hard to compare teams that don't even play similar competition. Although, I would guess that VanMeter, Western and Denver are all glad PC got stuck with Regina.
 
monte2013 said:
IF PC and Regina both win where would that game be played?
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Alphabet in reverse order beginning with J and going back.
It would be played in Pella.

P comes before R and the letter I comes before the J starting point.
Quite easy to figure out, actually.
 
WBBearsFollower said:
Alphabet in reverse order beginning with J and going back.
It would be played in Pella.

P comes before R and the letter I comes before the J starting point.
Quite easy to figure out, actually.
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That was for qualifying for the playoffs.

This is for assignment of sites for playoff games directly from the post-season manual:
SITE ASSIGNMENTS CLASSES 4-A, 3-A, 2-A, 1-A, A, 8-PLAYER

For the first round games:
  • When a district champion plays a district runner-up, the district champion will be the home team.
  • When a district champion plays an at-large qualifier, the district champion will be the home team.
  • When a district runner-up plays a district-runner-up, the quarterfinal round criteria will be used.

For the quarterfinal-round games:
  • The team with the higher finish in their respective district according to the district playoff qualification procedure will be the home team.
  • If the two teams paired have the same district finish, the team with the best district record will be the home team.
  • If the two teams have the same district finish and district record, head-to-head competition between the two tied teams will determine the home school with the winner of the head-to-head competition being the home team.
  • If there was no head-to-head competition, the home school will be determined by the alphabetical system and the school listed LAST alphabetically will be the home team.
  • Note: 6-0 in district play and 5-0 in district play are treated equally. 5-1 in district play is considered a higher winning percentage than 4-1 in district play
So it appears the quarterfinal game would be at Regina if it is Regina vs. Pella Christian.
 
WBBearsFollower said:
Alphabet in reverse order beginning with J and going back.
It would be played in Pella.

P comes before R and the letter I comes before the J starting point.
Quite easy to figure out, actually.
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Then what does this mean?







SITE ASSIGNMENTS


CLASSES 4-A, 3-A, 2-A, 1-A, A, 8-PLAYER







For the quarterfinal-round games:

The team with the higher finish in their respective district according to the district playoff qualification

procedure will be the home team.

If the two teams paired have the same district finish, the team with the best district record will be the home

team.

If the two teams have the same district finish and district record, head-to-head competition between the two

tied teams will determine the home school with the winner of the head-to-head competition being the home

team.

If there was no head-to-head competition, the home school will be determined by the alphabetical system


and the school listed LAST alphabetically will be the home team.

Note: 6-0 in district play and 5-0 in district play are treated equally. 5-1 in district play is considered a higher

winning percentage than 4-1 in district play.

http://www.iahsaa.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/2016-Post-Season-Football-Manual.pdf
 
We had this discussion on the 3A forum as well. The starts with J thing was the last tie-breaker for determining the wild-card teams. It is as stated above for the home field advantage in the playoffs, reverse alphabetical order Z to A. So PC at Regina, if both win first round.
 
I doubt if Regina is overlooking them, just as I doubt PC is over looking SK, but those of us on the board don't have to play, so we can look fwd. Seems like with all of the injuries beating Regina, might be a long shot? You never know with rivalries, however.
 
WBBearsFollower said:
Alphabet in reverse order beginning with J and going back.
It would be played in Pella.

P comes before R and the letter I comes before the J starting point.
Quite easy to figure out, actually.
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The "R" is used for determining Regina for Regina High School. The "Iowa City" is not considered.
 
El_Doce said:
I doubt if Regina is overlooking them, just as I doubt PC is over looking SK, but those of us on the board don't have to play, so we can look fwd. Seems like with all of the injuries beating Regina, might be a long shot? You never know with rivalries, however.
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I don't think either Regina or PC will overlook their opponent. They are opponents they are both familiar with. SK actually defeated PC the past two years. PC may have had some injuries last year if I am correct. WB gave Regina one of their tougher games of the year. I'm sure both teams will come out focused.
 
WB gave Regina a really tough game last year.

A few years ago they had a 12-10 game at West Branch when nobody else came close to beating Regina that season.

Coach Cook won't be overlooking the Bears. It should be a close game.
 
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Gridiron24 said:
WB gave Regina a really tough game last year.

A few years ago they had a 12-10 game at West Branch when nobody else came close to beating Regina that season.

Coach Cook won't be overlooking the Bears. It should be a close game.
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Those West Branch teams also didn't limp into the playoffs on criteria as a wild card team.....
 
The amount of injuries that WB has suffered is certainly unfortunate. Especially for seniors who don't get another chance. That being said, after a couple of weeks, it is probably not productive to continue to talk about injuries and feel sorry for themselves. There has been injury talk on this board and in the press for weeks and it hasn't been going away. It is not college so the adage of "next man in" really doesn't apply. However, just like when good athletes from small schools don't go out, you can't complain. Instead of worrying about those you don't have, it is more important to focus on those that you do have. WB would be best served to buck up and play for Lenoch tonight and let the chips fall where they may. If they keep talking about injuries, it only sounds like excuses. I'm not being derogatory toward WB. They have a classy, respected program. They would would be best served to focus on the kids they have remaining, play hard, and play with pride. I have no expectations other than they will play hard and play with pride. If complaining about injuries continues, the legacy of this team may more likely turn to excuses than toughness and pride. I'd hate to see that.
 
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Should we discount the last touchdown since it was against the 3-4th string? We've heard how difficult it is to play the 3rd string people.
 
cidhawkeye said:
Should we discount the last touchdown since it was against the 3-4th string? We've heard how difficult it is to play the 3rd string people.
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Luke goes over 6k for his career, but I think he was dinged up from overuse. Congrats to the Regals
 
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