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He was definitely at fault for encouraging illegal immigrants to make their way into this country, and advocating for policies that would lead to more illegal immigration.

Wait, no, that’s the current president, which is why the current spike is the worst in decades.

Trump in the end didn’t get much done on illegal immigration. Him failing to curb illegal immigration is also irrelevant when it comes to Biden taking a decades long problem that Republicans and Democrats have both failed to solve and making it significantly worse.
Like with election fraud... Trumpsky media Lies to promote their own cause.. did the Trumpsky mafia do this? I think not because they needed the chaos ( especially the 2018 invasion) to justify diversion of funds for the Great Wall. Facts suck

 
Like with election fraud... Trumpsky media Lies to promote their own cause.. did the Trumpsky mafia do this? I think not because they needed the chaos ( especially the 2018 invasion) to justify diversion of funds for the Great Wall. Facts suck

A campaign that was launched after the crisis was beyond out of control. Facts do indeed suck.
 
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Awesome leadership. Thanks Gator!​



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Yeah, that’s a Clinton/Obama policy, bub. And Of course you support it cause its different. OMB!
Gwinnett, @BamaFan1137 @Reasoned @dhetiger . Why am I not shocked you all actually believed that?


And I dare a certain someone to suspend me again for disagreement after the back-and-forth I’ve had with Rivals subscription services. You’re violating terms of service to keep this a safe space for white nationalist talking points. Good day!
 
Gwinnett, @BamaFan1137 @Reasoned @dhetiger . Why am I not shocked you all actually believed that?


And I dare a certain someone to suspend me again for disagreement after the back-and-forth I’ve had with Rivals subscription services. You’re violating terms of service to keep this a safe space for white nationalist talking points. Good day!


Read the article - while the obama admin did not have a hard line policy - they did intend separate families. Whether it was one or 1,000 families, it did happen under his watch. Where is AOC fake crying at a fence this time while dementia joe is putting COVID kids in cages?

As for your white nationalist comment - I disagree but I ask you to expound on this lib talking point. All I have seen from you is the same drivel that AOC and the rest of the lib democrats spit out. No real substance just fodder for twitter, facebook etc.. that white men are bad.

Here is your BLM leadership saviours showing what the movement is really about -- making money to better themselves. They do not care about all black lives - just their own.


They represent socialism perfectly - those in charge can do anything they want while those not in charge suffer.
 

Read the article - while the obama admin did not have a hard line policy - they did intend separate families. Whether it was one or 1,000 families, it did happen under his watch. Where is AOC fake crying at a fence this time while dementia joe is putting COVID kids in cages?

As for your white nationalist comment - I disagree but I ask you to expound on this lib talking point. All I have seen from you is the same drivel that AOC and the rest of the lib democrats spit out. No real substance just fodder for twitter, facebook etc.. that white men are bad.

Here is your BLM leadership saviours showing what the movement is really about -- making money to better themselves. They do not care about all black lives - just their own.


They represent socialism perfectly - those in charge can do anything they want while those not in charge suffer.
I just provided you content, which you chose to ignore because the facts countered your narrative. Had you read it in the first place...


Generally, a child and an adult who arrive together at the border can be separated when border officials cannot establish the custodial relationship; when they believe the custodian may be a threat to the child; or when the custodian is being detained for prosecution.

Immigration experts have told us that family separations were relatively rare under Obama and other past administrations. They did not happen at nearly the scale that they did under the Trump administration.[/i]

White men aren’t “bad”. But today’s American Conservatives aren’t what they used to be before anyone of intelligence fled, so they are all feelings and no facts. Anytime anyone points out any actual historical or social ills we can and should work to counter, today’s cons melt down into crying about how their whiteness is under attack, and blaming everyone else. The panic to exonerate Chauvin (or any white killer of a minority) is a prime example. Culture of white victimhood. It’s why the American right is breeding terrorism more than even their Oklahoma City days.
 
Gwinnett, @BamaFan1137 @Reasoned @dhetiger . Why am I not shocked you all actually believed that?


And I dare a certain someone to suspend me again for disagreement after the back-and-forth I’ve had with Rivals subscription services. You’re violating terms of service to keep this a safe space for white nationalist talking points. Good day!
White nationalist talking points! Lmao. You're violating the same terms of service when you're regurgitating you're bleeding heart socialist liberal agenda. STFU
 
White men aren’t “bad”. But today’s American Conservatives aren’t what they used to be before anyone of intelligence fled, so they are all feelings and no facts. Anytime anyone points out any actual historical or social ills we can and should work to counter, today’s cons melt down into crying about how their whiteness is under attack, and blaming everyone else. The panic to exonerate Chauvin (or any white killer of a minority) is a prime example. Culture of white victimhood. It’s why the American right is breeding terrorism more than even their Oklahoma City days.
You're either a black guy who's so wrapped up in his own victimhood that you have decided to lump anyone who's a white male into your racist category, or, you're a white male who is mad at white guys who don't go out of their way to apologize for being white.

Your last sentence is a treasure. Did you get that directly from CNN? Why don't you go participate in another riot/looting session....I mean peaceful protest.
 
IWhite men aren’t “bad”. But today’s American Conservatives aren’t what they used to be before anyone of intelligence fled, so they are all feelings and no facts....The panic to exonerate Chauvin (or any white killer of a minority) is a prime example. Culture of white victimhood. It’s why the American right is breeding terrorism more than even their Oklahoma City days.
First off, I think we can all agree blanket generalizations such as all of any race being “bad” or “good” for that matter, are complete folly. But to say that conservatives use “feelings” not “facts” to support arguments and positions is delusional. Recent history is littered with conservative candidates losing to leftists by arguing tangible facts like lowering marginal tax rates and societal consequences of personal responsibility only to lose to leftists who use feeling based talking points like “fair share” and “it’s killing the children”. Secondly, I know of nobody even remotely defending the actions of Chauvin because he is “white” and to say so just continues fanning the flames of racial discord. Lastly, we’re hearing all about this mythical growing “white supremacist” movement without any proof at all. In fact, they’ve spent tens of millions of $ on Fort Pelosi to protect them from the inevitable “insurrectionists” only to have one incident by a supporter of Nation of Islam.
 
Gwinnett, @BamaFan1137 @Reasoned @dhetiger . Why am I not shocked you all actually believed that?


And I dare a certain someone to suspend me again for disagreement after the back-and-forth I’ve had with Rivals subscription services. You’re violating terms of service to keep this a safe space for white nationalist talking points. Good day!

For the record, I liked GD's post because he took a swipe at 2 Presidents who were both in office for 8 years, yet neither really accomplished anything when it came to immigration. I believe in reform when it comes to immigration. It shouldn't take a decade to become a legal citizen. However, there are laws on the books, and people like you and the rest of your liberal buddies want those laws ignored. Open the borders!
 
First off, I think we can all agree blanket generalizations such as all of any race being “bad” or “good” for that matter, are complete folly. But to say that conservatives use “feelings” not “facts” to support arguments and positions is delusional. Recent history is littered with conservative candidates losing to leftists by arguing tangible facts like lowering marginal tax rates and societal consequences of personal responsibility only to lose to leftists who use feeling based talking points like “fair share” and “it’s killing the children”. Secondly, I know of nobody even remotely defending the actions of Chauvin because he is “white” and to say so just continues fanning the flames of racial discord. Lastly, we’re hearing all about this mythical growing “white supremacist” movement without any proof at all. In fact, they’ve spent tens of millions of $ on Fort Pelosi to protect them from the inevitable “insurrectionists” only to have one incident by a supporter of Nation of Islam.
Exactly. The "facts" they inevitably use is actually a singular "fact" and that is everyone who disagrees is a racist. They've played that card so many times that if it was a drinking game, all the contestants would be dead.
 
IWhite men aren’t “bad”. But today’s American Conservatives aren’t what they used to be before anyone of intelligence fled, so they are all feelings and no facts. Anytime anyone points out any actual historical or social ills we can and should work to counter, today’s cons melt down into crying about how their whiteness is under attack, and blaming everyone else. The panic to exonerate Chauvin (or any white killer of a minority) is a prime example. Culture of white victimhood. It’s why the American right is breeding terrorism more than even their Oklahoma City days.
We will not agree on obama's or trump's border policy - so no need to go further and wasted time and effort.

I agree that the black Americans were treated like shit up until the Civil Rights in the 60's. Was I alive to do anything about since I was born in 1969? The answer is no because it happened in the past and not being a time traveler there is little I or anyone else can do to about it but recognize what happened.

But myself being of Irish and American Indian (Cherokee) decent, you do realize that these people were equally treated as sub-humans as well. Most Irish were indentured servants (white slaves) and the other were kicked off their land in FL and sent to live in Oklahoma ( Trail of Tears). I recognize this as well but I don't go around crying about reparations all the time.

The current American Indian communities deal with poverty, drug use and alcoholism the same as the African American community - but the MSM does not give it any air time. Every wondered why? It does not fit the narrative from Washington and keep to their agenda to keep the two races baiting each other so that nancy, chuck, mitch and lindsey can stay in power. And facebook, amazon, wal mart, twitter, google et al are assisting to make sure they keep them in power.

What needs to be done is give assistance both those communities is fund better education systems, helping to maintain a nuclear family structure, and helping fund a jobs program to get them to quit living off the government dime and learn to be responsible for their own actions. As someone who has coached kid's sports - I can tell you when a child does not a father at home (whether black, white or mexican) vs. one that does. And that is the main issue affecting all communities to date in America.

We can fund these programs by the US to quit giving tax payer monies to Iran, Palestine or the other numerous foreign nations that despise the US but gladly take our $$$$.

What panic to exonerate Chauvin? If found guilty - he goes to jail. Found innocent - he goes free. That is for the courts to decide. If anything I feel there is more pressure to find him guilty due the riots that will ensue if found otherwise.
 
We will not agree on obama's or trump's border policy - so no need to go further and wasted time and effort.

I agree that the black Americans were treated like shit up until the Civil Rights in the 60's. Was I alive to do anything about since I was born in 1969? The answer is no because it happened in the past and not being a time traveler there is little I or anyone else can do to about it but recognize what happened.

But myself being of Irish and American Indian (Cherokee) decent, you do realize that these people were equally treated as sub-humans as well. Most Irish were indentured servants (white slaves) and the other were kicked off their land in FL and sent to live in Oklahoma ( Trail of Tears). I recognize this as well but I don't go around crying about reparations all the time.

The current American Indian communities deal with poverty, drug use and alcoholism the same as the African American community - but the MSM does not give it any air time. Every wondered why? It does not fit the narrative from Washington and keep to their agenda to keep the two races baiting each other so that nancy, chuck, mitch and lindsey can stay in power. And facebook, amazon, wal mart, twitter, google et al are assisting to make sure they keep them in power.

What needs to be done is give assistance both those communities is fund better education systems, helping to maintain a nuclear family structure, and helping fund a jobs program to get them to quit living off the government dime and learn to be responsible for their own actions. As someone who has coached kid's sports - I can tell you when a child does not a father at home (whether black, white or mexican) vs. one that does. And that is the main issue affecting all communities to date in America.

We can fund these programs by the US to quit giving tax payer monies to Iran, Palestine or the other numerous foreign nations that despise the US but gladly take our $$$$.

What panic to exonerate Chauvin? If found guilty - he goes to jail. Found innocent - he goes free. That is for the courts to decide. If anything I feel there is more pressure to find him guilty due the riots that will ensue if found otherwise.
Excellent points, dusty. The welfare state needs to shrink, not expand. Black conservatives have been stressing the education angle for years. The inner city public school systems are a disaster. If FEMA is necessary on the border, they should have been deployed to the inner cities years ago.

While I do believe that the US can, and should, help other countries, I strongly believe in an America First mindset. If not giving Pakistan a few billion dollars means that better education opportunities can exist for American children, sign me the fvck up.
 
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For the record, I liked GD's post because he took a swipe at 2 Presidents who were both in office for 8 years, yet neither really accomplished anything when it came to immigration. I believe in reform when it comes to immigration. It shouldn't take a decade to become a legal citizen. However, there are laws on the books, and people like you and the rest of your liberal buddies want those laws ignored. Open the borders!
And both of those clowns are on record saying the exact same things Trump said, yet he was the one that was racist
 
Gwinnett, @BamaFan1137 @Reasoned @dhetiger . Why am I not shocked you all actually believed that?


And I dare a certain someone to suspend me again for disagreement after the back-and-forth I’ve had with Rivals subscription services. You’re violating terms of service to keep this a safe space for white nationalist talking points. Good day!
Eat a dick
 
I just provided you content, which you chose to ignore because the facts countered your narrative. Had you read it in the first place...


Generally, a child and an adult who arrive together at the border can be separated when border officials cannot establish the custodial relationship; when they believe the custodian may be a threat to the child; or when the custodian is being detained for prosecution.

Immigration experts have told us that family separations were relatively rare under Obama and other past administrations. They did not happen at nearly the scale that they did under the Trump administration.[/i]

White men aren’t “bad”. But today’s American Conservatives aren’t what they used to be before anyone of intelligence fled, so they are all feelings and no facts. Anytime anyone points out any actual historical or social ills we can and should work to counter, today’s cons melt down into crying about how their whiteness is under attack, and blaming everyone else. The panic to exonerate Chauvin (or any white killer of a minority) is a prime example. Culture of white victimhood. It’s why the American right is breeding terrorism more than even their Oklahoma City days.
All feelings, no facts. That’s how you describe conservatives? My god, you are mental.
 
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We will not agree on obama's or trump's border policy - so no need to go further and wasted time and effort.

I agree that the black Americans were treated like shit up until the Civil Rights in the 60's. Was I alive to do anything about since I was born in 1969? The answer is no because it happened in the past and not being a time traveler there is little I or anyone else can do to about it but recognize what happened.

But myself being of Irish and American Indian (Cherokee) decent, you do realize that these people were equally treated as sub-humans as well. Most Irish were indentured servants (white slaves) and the other were kicked off their land in FL and sent to live in Oklahoma ( Trail of Tears). I recognize this as well but I don't go around crying about reparations all the time.

The current American Indian communities deal with poverty, drug use and alcoholism the same as the African American community - but the MSM does not give it any air time. Every wondered why? It does not fit the narrative from Washington and keep to their agenda to keep the two races baiting each other so that nancy, chuck, mitch and lindsey can stay in power. And facebook, amazon, wal mart, twitter, google et al are assisting to make sure they keep them in power.

What needs to be done is give assistance both those communities is fund better education systems, helping to maintain a nuclear family structure, and helping fund a jobs program to get them to quit living off the government dime and learn to be responsible for their own actions. As someone who has coached kid's sports - I can tell you when a child does not a father at home (whether black, white or mexican) vs. one that does. And that is the main issue affecting all communities to date in America.

We can fund these programs by the US to quit giving tax payer monies to Iran, Palestine or the other numerous foreign nations that despise the US but gladly take our $$$$.

What panic to exonerate Chauvin? If found guilty - he goes to jail. Found innocent - he goes free. That is for the courts to decide. If anything I feel there is more pressure to find him guilty due the riots that will ensue if found otherwise.
I can actually respect some of this. The main qualms being that it’s a myth that government programs foster dependency. Nations with larger social safety nets than us have higher social mobility. We have created historic barriers against these groups for hundreds of years that will take generations to undo. And I completely agree with investing in education, infrastructure, and other reinvestment above all else. Studies show the difference between liberals and conservatives in policy is actually much less than the extremists think. The difference is that liberals attack the problems and conservatives just attack liberals...while doing nothing.
 
I can actually respect some of this. The main qualms being that it’s a myth that government programs foster dependency. Nations with larger social safety nets than us have higher social mobility. We have created historic barriers against these groups for hundreds of years that will take generations to undo. And I completely agree with investing in education, infrastructure, and other reinvestment above all else. Studies show the difference between liberals and conservatives in policy is actually much less than the extremists think. The difference is that liberals attack the problems and conservatives just attack liberals...while doing nothing.

See, we were in decent agreement until that last sentence. This thread is about a crisis at the border. The 2 previous democrats who occupied the WH did so for a total of 16 years between them. They didn't do a damn thing. This isn't a conservative v liberal thing. It's a "our leaders, regardless of party, don't do anything". You're just too busy hating white people to notice.
 
I just provided you content, which you chose to ignore because the facts countered your narrative. Had you read it in the first place...


Generally, a child and an adult who arrive together at the border can be separated when border officials cannot establish the custodial relationship; when they believe the custodian may be a threat to the child; or when the custodian is being detained for prosecution.

Immigration experts have told us that family separations were relatively rare under Obama and other past administrations. They did not happen at nearly the scale that they did under the Trump administration.[/i]

White men aren’t “bad”. But today’s American Conservatives aren’t what they used to be before anyone of intelligence fled, so they are all feelings and no facts. Anytime anyone points out any actual historical or social ills we can and should work to counter, today’s cons melt down into crying about how their whiteness is under attack, and blaming everyone else. The panic to exonerate Chauvin (or any white killer of a minority) is a prime example. Culture of white victimhood. It’s why the American right is breeding terrorism more than even their Oklahoma City days.
😂 😂 😂

You sound like a real pussy.
 
The main qualms being that it’s a myth that government programs foster dependency. Nations with larger social safety nets than us have higher social mobility. We have created historic barriers against these groups for hundreds of years that will take generations to undo.
Myth my fatass! Ask my wife who teaches 4th grade about parents wanting their kids labeled "mentally retarded" when they are not so that their gov't check is bigger each month. Government programs such as welfare and SSI Disability have made and keep these type of folks dependent on the government. I guarantee if the gov't said after two kids - you have to leave gov't housing and would get no more monies, this would cure women have 5,6,8 or 10 kids to keep getting that government money.

'Your social mobility' is another example of someone not wanting to hold the individual responsible for their own well being and not dependent on the government. Take Dr. Ben Carson, from the ghetto to becoming a respected doctor to leading one of the largest government agencies. Or an immigrant that came to America with no language skills or any idea what the hell to do but drive a cab. But through hard work was able to buy a local hotel and put others in his situation to work. Or anyone that started a company from scratch and made themselves a millionaire.

This country was founded, must to the disdain of the liberal/progressives, on the belief that if you work hard you can achieve your 'dream'. I've told my two sons that in the early days of America, if a person didn't want to hunt, fish or learn to farm - that person learned to starve to death or they figured out to do one those skills to survive.

Being in sales, my job requires a lot of hours working at night and the weekend to meet deadlines. I don't have to do it, but I do it because I like the commission income and the benefits that accompany the increased income. If a person wants to be on the disability then they can earn that mighty $1,000 check each month but don't bitch to me about it.
 
Myth my fatass! Ask my wife who teaches 4th grade about parents wanting their kids labeled "mentally retarded" when they are not so that their gov't check is bigger each month. Government programs such as welfare and SSI Disability have made and keep these type of folks dependent on the government. I guarantee if the gov't said after two kids - you have to leave gov't housing and would get no more monies, this would cure women have 5,6,8 or 10 kids to keep getting that government money.

'Your social mobility' is another example of someone not wanting to hold the individual responsible for their own well being and not dependent on the government. Take Dr. Ben Carson, from the ghetto to becoming a respected doctor to leading one of the largest government agencies. Or an immigrant that came to America with no language skills or any idea what the hell to do but drive a cab. But through hard work was able to buy a local hotel and put others in his situation to work. Or anyone that started a company from scratch and made themselves a millionaire.

This country was founded, must to the disdain of the liberal/progressives, on the belief that if you work hard you can achieve your 'dream'. I've told my two sons that in the early days of America, if a person didn't want to hunt, fish or learn to farm - that person learned to starve to death or they figured out to do one those skills to survive.

Being in sales, my job requires a lot of hours working at night and the weekend to meet deadlines. I don't have to do it, but I do it because I like the commission income and the benefits that accompany the increased income. If a person wants to be on the disability then they can earn that mighty $1,000 check each month but don't bitch to me about it.
Dude’s either a humongous, gaping puss, or he’s a troll. There is nobody in real life that’s that stupid.
 
If you disagree with sockeye, you're a white nationalist. That's freaking brilliant.

I can foresee myself spending large quantities of my valuable time debating with this choad.

Dude’s either a humongous, gaping puss, or he’s a troll. There is nobody in real life that’s that stupid.

This type of discord makes me wish even more that Alex was still with us. I miss him. He was definitely liberal, but he didn't hate white people.
Real intelligent responses, Bubbas. 😂
 
You might fit in better if you give a prediction of the 1st rnd NFL DRAFT - shouldn’t have to put much thought into Iowa players ;)
 
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A “sanctuary nation”?.....that’s just swell.🤨
Jim Jordan??? The next self righteous Trumpsky “Patriot” ( LOLOLOL) from the Freedom Caucus to get sucked in by the Gaetz prostitution scandal. He’s still “wrestling “ with it. Can’t wait to see the yellow tie and rolled up sleeves in his press conference for victim hood.
 
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